SL, A Sleeping Beauty and Blue Mars

No, but when you build a stove, you can't sell 9 million of them without the cost of the resource so the price is essentially driven down. I'm no economist, just my speculation and observation Not to mention products in real life degrade and you will need another stove at some point. Here you buy a virtual object, the object lasts forever, their are no limited resources so people can build one thing and sell as many as they want, eventually like its becoming in SL, the "sellers" are starting to out number the "buyers" in SL.

In RL there are countless regulations and policies. Ratings on media, mandatory warning labels on goods (caution: hot, choking hazard, etc.), extensive approval processes for drugs, the better business bureau. All things to help protect consumers from bad products. Does that improve our economy or hurt it?

That scene (with only half of it seen in this shot) is built on a parcel that is just over 10k sqm, not even a fourth of a mainlaind sim. Now I kindly suggest you shut up and take a real look at what you're talking about.

And yes, I get quite testy when people suggest SL isn't beautiful because they have obviously never looked beyond the malls and strip joints.

Ah, so that's why there's so much better music and greater variety on Clear Channel Radio than on independent radio stations!

And I have just had to submit my house extension drawings for planning approval (I wonder which 'RL' world Argent lives in?)

Rock

"mommy mommy i hate everyone who doesnt agree with me"

what´s so bad about people who think BM looks better ?

You're slapping a lot of people in the face with that statement, and I do not mean bad and mediocre content creators, but also the people who only fuzz around with stuff for themselves and never set a thing for sale to anyone, or the guys that just want to make a gift box for their girlfriends...





Remind me how this is a good thing...?

Shut up and read what I really wrote. There is not one word about BM in this post. I was referring to people who regularly state that SL looks like shit. Which it obviously doesn't. Not everywhere.

It'll let people more easily create "innovative" user interfaces like the one Big Spaceship made for the Second Life home page!

Blue Mars is definitely shinier than SL. So what? Take a good look at this:
http://www.avatar-reality.com/about/management.html

Avatar Reality is building a platform. They have NO ONE on their management team whose job it is to deal with individual players. So, while we may some day see a virtual world based on Blue Mars that can support a society like SL's, I think it probably will not be brought to us by Avatar Reality, but by one of their customers.

In fact, LL could become one of their customers.

It will be fascinating to watch Blue Mars evolve, but here's a question for you:

ARE YOU WILLING TO, ONCE AGAIN, BE THE GUINEA PIG THAT A STARTUP USES TO QA THEIR PLATFORM?

Because that's what Blue Mars is doing, of course. For the next 2-3 years, they will be wooing content creators to test out the build tools. They will be trying to get lots of users online to test scalability. Lalala ... have we done this before?

Despite upsets, SL continues to get more stable as time goes on.

Have a nice time in Blue Mars, Ting. Let me know when loads of people begin throwing parties and shopping like mad.


p.s. Ting, you don't happen to work in Avatar Reality QA, do you? Looking for a little free help, maybe?

ZOMG the SL Sky is falling Post Template #43:

I can’t believe LL is ignoring ____________. This will destroy SL, don’t they get that? People will leave in droves because of ____________ and then there won’t be an SL for anybody. I predict LL will be out of business within ______ days/months/years (circle one) because of ____________. So much for Your World, Your Imagination.

(special credit to Isablan Neva for Template #42)

(Fairy Tale analogies are stupid)

Ah. Right. Yes.

*bites knuckles to not scream in terror*

just because you just told me again to shut i up i will post again ^^

hi i am yuriko

btw, no one said sl looks like shit, just that BM looks better.

and i personally agree that sl looks outdated, i hate the avatars for example

I am tried of hearing about Blue Mars. I don't want to hear anymore until some of the details are worked out and the public can actually check it out for themselves. So, far I don't think it is any competition, but only time will tell.

Dear Yuriko, you should really learn to read, it seems. See the line I quoted from Ting's post, about SL not being able to look like a virtual world really should. Kthnxbai.

Hum. Well, as someone mentioned, most of these points were hashed out in loving 600 post detail in an earlier thread. But a few things I think bear remembering:

1) Blue Mars is still in beta. I think it's fair to say that it shows great promise, but it's not a full fledged virtual world, more akin to a demo.

2) It has a different model for content creation than SL. It allows it, but you have to sign up. Better, worse or just different? Each of us has to be the judge of that for ourselves.

3) The content creation workflow in Blue Mars is more akin to that of any other game engine. In other words, it uses Lua for scripting (a widely used gaming language) and assets are created using third party software (Maya, Max, Blender, Google Sketchup, etc). This is probably a more difficult first step than "right click on a prim and select edit", but at the same time it's more powerful than SL creation tools. It's a tradeoff, imho.

4) No one has ever said that you can't make pretty things in SL. I've seen amazing work in MSPaint, too, but it doesn't mean that Photoshop is no better at 2D creation.

5) Someday there will be other virtual worlds like Second Life. Blue Mars might be one of them. I hope so, as I feel that competition can only be good for users. As someone said, SL has made great progress in the last two years, both in terms of content creation and stability (no really, it has). I'd hate to see them sit on their laurels. If there is a foot race in another year, I shall be cheering every participant on!

novis, i can read and:

"SL sims are too small and too expensive to contain the grandeur and beauty that virtual worlds should portray. "

doesnt sound like sl is looking like shit, just like it could be improved, maybe you should take a deep breath before you jump on everyone who has a different opinion

and yes, i am bored atm

edit: to remove useless stuff ^^

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Blue Mars low rent??
atm they have 100% better graphics then SL has lol You just need a real gamer comp to get in.

Negative.

Goddamn Techno Elitists! *shakes fist*

I don't think I'm slapping a lot of people in the face at all, my mind is more on my ex mainland neighbors who would litter my view and my build with their garbage.

And to make my opinion clearer, I said restricting building may help the "virtual economy" of that world, but like I said I have no background in economics, just merely my opinion. Will it make it better? Like someone said there are trade offs.

I've often said until another virtual world offers building, than its hard to compare to SL. Blue Mars will offer building, it will be more restrictive and probably more complex, that is going to be the trade off between the two worlds. We'll see what happens.

Because they know they are gona lose thier shirt when sl starts to lose people to better worlds

If it doesn't allow building, I wouldn't even call it a virtual world.

But There.com and ActiveWorlds allow building as much as Blue Mars willl, so there really IS a basis for comparison.

Uhm, where? The login button? I admit that the hair flows nicely, but 100% better? Please.



Yes, sure. I have a high end machine and it still sucks more resources than SL ever does.



I caught the snipe at my English skills before you edited it, and that was almost funny, given the context of your sentence. Also I would like to remind you that in my pictures post I did not "jump" at anyone, merely posted proof that the OP's statement is... let's say, not well thought through.



And who will keep your BM neighbors from littering your view? Granted, I am assuming here that you're not dishing out a few hundred dollars a month for a private city...



No. It just keeps out the artists and the people that can't afford to spend big money for upload rights. Some of those create with much more heart and talent than any "professional"