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Brenda Connolly
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10-27-2009 23:26
From: Bree Giffen
Thanks Brenda... :rolleyes:

That's the biggest one. :p


I've had Guinea Pigs in some of my classrooms over the years...what do you want to know?
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Bree Giffen
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10-27-2009 23:45
How noisy are they? Well . I'll have to check on this tomorrow. Goodnight.
Daniel Regenbogen
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10-28-2009 00:06
From: Madeline Breil
Dakota. are you kidding? All you need it two pedophiles and they can produce as much visual gratification for each other as they wish. The thing about predators is that they won't stop here. This would only feed their obsession.

The point is your entertainment is not worth enabling pedophiles.


You really have no idea, do you? Pedophilia: adult plus child. Not child plus child. So the actual problem is the adult avatar in the picture.

And - also something people like Lia(r)s and you don't seem to be able to understand: Pedophiles are adults that are interested in children. Not in other adults who *play* children. So you can find them at places like myspace, facebook and so on - where there *real* possible victims can be found. Not in a place like SL, where at least the very majority of people they encounter are RL adults - and the few minors who made it on the grid in violation of the ToS will be found in any avatar shape, just not as child avatar.

This is getting so old. Uneducated people who are not even *interested* in getting educated getting all emotional "OMG SAVE THE KIDS!", not even realizing that in this crusade they weaken the fight on the real battlefronts, that they actually *hurt* the interests of *real* kids.
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10-28-2009 00:24
From: Daniel Regenbogen
You really have no idea, do you? Pedophilia: adult plus child. Not child plus child. So the actual problem is the adult avatar in the picture.

And - also something people like Lias and you don't seem to be able to understand: Pedophiles are adults that are interested in children. Not in other adults who *play* children.
According to your logic, the SL role play experience is not immersive enough for a pedophile to be satisfied with it. But the role play experience with the use of avatars is immersive enough for role play furries, escorts, johns, Goreans and slaves. There is a film on virtual pedophilia in SL available on Youtube. That may help you see the faults in your theory.

You are also confusing two different issues. Virtual pedophilia in SL has nothing to do with pedophiles preying on real children on the Internet.
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10-28-2009 00:31
From: Lias Leandros
snip.


Lia(r)s, stop editing my quotes. I adressed you "Lia(r)s", not "Lias", and you going into MY text and changing it proves exactly that point.
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10-28-2009 00:45
From: Daniel Regenbogen
Lias, stop editing my quotes. I adressed you "Lias" not "Lias", and you going into MY text and changing it proves exactly that point.

Is your point that you are trying to be rude? It is just better not to attack people that don't agree with you. You constantly participate in these threads and quickly become indignant and confrontational. That behaviour does nothing to move the conversation forward. I am happy to see most folks stayed away from the rude bait and kept discussing.
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10-28-2009 00:52
From: Lias Leandros
You are also confusing two different issues. Virtual pedophilia in SL has nothing to do with pedophiles preying on real children on the Internet.
Wait a minute... So, umm.... "virtual pedophilia" doesn't involve children *at all*?

So.... What was the issue again?
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10-28-2009 01:14
Kid/teen avatars have nothing at all to do with age play,and child/teen avatars are not perverts.

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10-28-2009 01:24
From: Lias Leandros
Is your point that you are trying to be rude? It is just better not to attack people that don't agree with you. You constantly participate in these threads and quickly become indignant and confrontational. That behaviour does nothing to move the conversation forward. I am happy to see most folks stayed away from the rude bait and kept discussing.


I call a liar a liar, this has nothing to do with being rude. And you, Lia(r)s, are a prime example for a liar, and you prove it again and again with doing the total no-no of editing quotes by other forum posters. If you have a problem with being called what you are, change your ways (meaning: simply don't lie anymore) or take it up with LL and report me. Before you change your ways or LL tells me to not call a liar a liar, I will continue demasking you for what a liar you are, Lia(r)s.
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10-28-2009 01:42
From: Axel Oakleaf
Kid/teen avatars have nothing at all to do with age play,and child/teen avatars are not perverts.
/me waits for Immy to turn up to deny the latter charge.

Pep (Kid/teen avatars are in the main just as annoying to adults as they are in rl.)
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10-28-2009 01:44
From: Katheryne Helendale
Wait a minute... So, umm.... "virtual pedophilia" doesn't involve children *at all*?

So.... What was the issue again?

Kat you have been posting in these child avatar threads for months. Now you claim you are completely confused about the issue. Perhaps going back and reading a few pages of the numerous posts you have made on this subject this year will assist you in comprehending what is being discussed.
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10-28-2009 02:13
From: Lias Leandros
Kat you have been posting in these child avatar threads for months. Now you claim you are completely confused about the issue. Perhaps going back and reading a few pages of the numerous posts you have made on this subject this year will assist you in comprehending what is being discussed.
Nice attempt at trying to dodge the question. Now answer it.
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Melita Magic
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10-28-2009 02:19
How predictable...Lias/her cohorts/alts have shown up to continue harping on her obsession.

A few points to mention, not to Lias et al but to those reading who might be fuzzy on this issue.

1. Linden Lab has already ruled on this and ruled wisely: Ban the behavior at issue, not everyone who looks a certain way.

2. Banning child avatars will not work, because those who are so inclined to virtual, sexual ageplay will simply shrink their avatar at a moment's notice and continue merrily on. "But that means they are going to (sexually) ageplay" one might say. In which case, the behavior is again what is at issue and the crucial element. So, one could simply ban the behavior. Oh wait, LL has already done that - see point # 1.

3. This is much less about the actual issue than the gathering of negative attention, and the venting of hate filled diatribes in what some feel is a safe way (they assume others will clamor to join them, like all hate groups assume.) But guess what. Discrimination and hate speech against accepted groups in SL is against the rules.

So who is the baddie, then?
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10-28-2009 02:27
From: Melita Magic
How predictable...Lias/her cohorts/alts have shown up to continue harping on her obsession.

A few points to mention, not to Lias et al but to those reading who might be fuzzy on this issue.

1. Linden Lab has already ruled on this and ruled wisely: Ban the behavior at issue, not everyone who looks a certain way.

2. Banning child avatars will not work, because those who are so inclined to virtual, sexual ageplay will simply shrink their avatar at a moment's notice and continue merrily on. "But that means they are going to (sexually) ageplay" one might say. In which case, the behavior is again what is at issue and the crucial element. So, one could simply ban the behavior. Oh wait, LL has already done that - see point # 1.

3. This is much less about the actual issue than the gathering of negative attention, and the venting of hate filled diatribes in what some feel is a safe way (they assume others will clamor to join them, like all hate groups assume.) But guess what. Discrimination and hate speech against accepted groups in SL is against the rules.

So who is the baddie, then?


Me being Furry,most sims actually have signs saying that furry avatars are not allowed and i know that one sim,i actually got shot at for being a furry.
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10-28-2009 02:28
From: Axel Oakleaf
Me being Furry,most sims actually have signs saying that furry avatars are not allowed and i know that one sim,i actually got shot at for being a furry.


I think that type of overt hate speech/actions - I can hear some laughing now, but that is exactly what it is - should not be allowed in this virtual world.

You won't find that on any of my land, btw. Anyone is welcome. It's behavior that is policed/actioned.

As it should be, IMO.

(BTW I was referring in my prior post to the forums. I don't know the fine line which is allowed within SL, since there seems to be more latitude on 'private land' to ban anyone.)
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10-28-2009 02:49
From: Axel Oakleaf
Me being Furry,most sims actually have signs saying that furry avatars are not allowed and i know that one sim,i actually got shot at for being a furry.
I haven't seen many non-Gorean sims banning furry avatars. What kind of sims are you going to?
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10-28-2009 02:54
From: Bree Giffen
Does anyone here have a guinea pig? I will be getting one soon and need to know if there is anything special I need to know.


Cook them slowly :P
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10-28-2009 02:59
From: Lord Sullivan
Cook them slowly :P


Some parts of the world do eat them, actually...

To care for one properly, clean its cage often, give it wooden chew sticks often, buy specially made food for it. Make sure it always has fresh water. They are rather docile creatures overall. Hamsters/gerbils are a bit more nervous, I think.

(waits for someone to make the inevitable joke)

I think guinea pigs have a tendency to catch cold, too, and pet shops sell these tiny blankets for them. Not kidding. Lol.
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10-28-2009 03:02
From: Melita Magic
Some parts of the world do eat them, actually...

To care for one properly, clean its cage often, give it wooden chew sticks often, buy specially made food for it. Make sure it always has fresh water. They are rather docile creatures overall. Hamsters/gerbils are a bit more nervous, I think.

(waits for someone to make the inevitable joke)

I think guinea pigs have a tendency to catch cold, too, and pet shops sell these tiny blankets for them. Not kidding. Lol.


Yep I know but never fancied one myself :) when I was younger, many moons ago I used to show them and won some prizes with them :) I think they make great pets though because they are so placid :)
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10-28-2009 03:04
From: Lord Sullivan
Yep I know but never fancied one myself :) when I was younger, many moons ago I used to show them and won some prizes with them :) I think they make great pets though because they are so placid :)


Yes, a cousin had one. I had a gerbil as a child myself. I'm apparently allergic to guinea pigs.

Otherwise I might have a guinea pig now...cleaning the cage is pretty gross, though.
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10-28-2009 03:22
From: Melita Magic
Yes, a cousin had one. I had a gerbil as a child myself. I'm apparently allergic to guinea pigs.

Otherwise I might have a guinea pig now...cleaning the cage is pretty gross, though.


Gerbils are to fast for me lol
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10-28-2009 03:29
From: Lias Leandros
... Virtual pedophilia in SL has nothing to do with pedophiles preying on real children on the Internet.

Er ... you've just broken your own argument.

Time to pick up the pieces and go away and try to figure out how to put it back together again.
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10-28-2009 03:46
From: Madeline Breil
Any child avatar should be removed No matter the species of mammal.


How come merkids get to stay? :)
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10-28-2009 03:50
From: Saphira Vaher
I would much prefer to not see child avatars period. I really do not understand where child avatars fit in.


I would much prefer to not see Gorean avatars period. I really do not understand where Gorean avatars fit in.

(oh-so-fun replying with the same words but substituting a noun)

From: Saphira Vaher
If there were no child avatars in game there would be no pedophile activities would there?


Umm ... let us follow your thought process, shall we?

I am assuming you are one of those "save the children!!!!!" folks. Well, would you rather have pedos exhausting their time (and thrills) in SL or RL? Won't someone think of the children!!! :)
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10-28-2009 04:17
From: Bree Giffen
Does anyone here have a guinea pig? I will be getting one soon and need to know if there is anything special I need to know.

Well, caging them is pretty easy. Unlike similar animals, they do not climb.
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