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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-10-2009 07:24
From: Veedal Sassoon You can't Rha (imho). Anyone who says they can just split SL/RL emotions are deluding themselves or they have no frikin idea wtf love really is *waves This is pretty much how I feel about it, but I see people saying all the time, that they keep it strictly SL, and this confused me (still does to a degree) I am not one to deny my feelings, be they good, bad, or somewhere in between. I am human, and the best part of being human is being able to feel emotions, both the good and the bad, to deny myself that, is to deny my humanity. So anywho, I understand the points of view, and even why people would feel the need to keep it to SL, but I still can not understand how they can do it, especially if the emotions they are feeling are real. (and even the characters of a novel comment, they still leave me a bit boggled, I guess I just could not separate myself from myself like that. Would also be the reason I would make a lousy actress LOL)
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Brenda Connolly
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03-10-2009 07:29
From: Rhaorth Antonelli I don't agree with this statement completely. Yes, we all have our own reasons for coming to SL, but they are not all deep rooted, or because we are missing something, or even fantasy based.
When I joined SL, I had no idea what it really was. I saw a mention of it on a forums post in a forums I used to frequent (totally unrelated to SL). Basically the post called it a game, I was bored of the games I had been playing so was open to something new.
I joined SL, mainly out of curiosity, and looking for a new game. Boy was I surprised. LOL I almost never stayed, but then learned (rather quickly) about the ability to create clothing, build, and DJ, so I got a job DJing, in a few different places.
It was in one of those places that I met my (now RL) husband.
Was I looking for romance, or living out a fantasy, or even have a deep rooted reason for being in SL? Nope, I was simply... bored.
heh This. Some people are just here to have a little mindless fun.
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spike Hydraconis
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03-10-2009 07:29
From: Rhaorth Antonelli I don't agree with this statement completely. Yes, we all have our own reasons for coming to SL, but they are not all deep rooted, or because we are missing something, or even fantasy based.
When I joined SL, I had no idea what it really was. I saw a mention of it on a forums post in a forums I used to frequent (totally unrelated to SL). Basically the post called it a game, I was bored of the games I had been playing so was open to something new.
I joined SL, mainly out of curiosity, and looking for a new game. Boy was I surprised. LOL I almost never stayed, but then learned (rather quickly) about the ability to create clothing, build, and DJ, so I got a job DJing, in a few different places.
It was in one of those places that I met my (now RL) husband.
Was I looking for romance, or living out a fantasy, or even have a deep rooted reason for being in SL? Nope, I was simply... bored.
heh i understand what you are saying but that statement was purley from a psychologist stand point but it is somwhat true in the idea that we dont always consiously know why we do things. i like you came for curiosity... however there are issues in my rl that has caused me to take the path i have in sl and i didnt realize it at first.. i suppose it is possible to just wonder here innocently but if you stay and get involved with someone then it is possible you were missing something that you didnt realize you were when you first joined. that is all i meant by that statement.
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Treasure Ballinger
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03-10-2009 07:32
From: Brenda Connolly This. Some people are just here to have a little mindless fun. I WAS there just to have a little mindless fun. Then found 'that niche' that stopped the aimless wandering. Was there for about 6 months though, before finding it. As for a person, I wasn't looking for one, and have never had that 'coupledom' in SL. I'm ok without that component though. No point in making my RL messy, which it would. Some of you have more easygoing RL's than I do, from what I've read, and that's great.
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03-10-2009 07:35
From: Brenda Connolly This. Some people are just here to have a little mindless fun. A little more fun and a little less mindless would be good though. Pep (Sorry, you probably meant inworld rather than the forums)
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Brenda Connolly
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03-10-2009 07:37
From: Pserendipity Daniels A little more fun and a little less mindless would be good though.
Pep (Sorry, you probably meant inworld rather than the forums) Not necessarily. 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-10-2009 07:38
From: spike Hydraconis i understand what you are saying but that statement was purley from a psychologist stand point but it is somwhat true in the idea that we dont always consiously know why we do things. i like you came for curiosity... however there are issues in my rl that has caused me to take the path i have in sl and i didnt realize it at first.. i suppose it is possible to just wonder here innocently but if you stay and get involved with someone then it is possible you were missing something that you didnt realize you were when you first joined. that is all i meant by that statement. ahhh well I don't think I subconsciously came to SL looking for love, especially being I thought SL was a "game", and not a social platform, virtual world, whatever ya want to call it. so for some, sure there might be hidden reasons, hidden even to themselves, but for others,... simply for whatever reason they had at the time things change, life evolves, and we have no knowledge of what is going to happen, or even why. I have learned to live for the day, and tomorrow will take care of it's self. (not much else one can do, worrying about tomorrow, will drive one insane today)
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Kasuga Hax
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03-10-2009 07:40
I see second life as a work of art. Art created by everyone, and a community of fake pixels controlled by real humans.
I keep my game in the game all the time. By real life is not involved. I just control the avatar.
That's why I don't have sex in second life. because I generally hate cybersex with people who don't have a face. pixels have sex, and I just jawn at seeing two puppets bang each other in a rather boring simplistic movement.
I rather go build something. create art, and communicate with the world. While flying around in a helicopter and drive a car through villages. Or pick up roleplay, and pretend to be in a position I want to in at that time.
I don't really want a marriage in SL, or a job, or anything that forces me to obey to rules I want to escape in my normal life. Just a game, where I decide what I do, and when to stop doing it.
Overdoing in second life will just create a copy of your first. where you need to go to work, interact with a partner whose face is probably still unknown to you.
For all I know I think to have a relation with a hot guy somewhere, and end up with a 93 year old granny. And I'll never find out. O.o
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Treasure Ballinger
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03-10-2009 08:01
From: Kasuga Hax
That's why I don't have sex in second life. because I generally hate cybersex with people who don't have a face. pixels have sex, and I just jawn at seeing two puppets bang each other in a rather boring simplistic movement.
Really....? Will have to take your word for it, having never seen/had it. *blush* Kind of embarrassing, being a virgin but hey, Treasure is only 2.......maybe someday.....
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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03-10-2009 08:08
From: Treasure Ballinger Really....? Will have to take your word for it, having never seen/had it. *blush* Kind of embarrassing, being a virgin but hey, Treasure is only 2.......maybe someday..... Treasure, some people see only pixels. If you're involved in something with someone you care about....you may see pixels, but you'll "feel" so much more. 
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Lindal Kidd
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03-10-2009 08:16
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook Treasure, some people see only pixels. If you're involved in something with someone you care about....you may see pixels, but you'll "feel" so much more.  Yeah. That. 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-10-2009 08:17
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook Treasure, some people see only pixels. If you're involved in something with someone you care about....you may see pixels, but you'll "feel" so much more.  not always my husband and I never had pixel sex before we met in RL, and obviously never did after meeting.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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03-10-2009 08:21
From: Rhaorth Antonelli not always my husband and I never had pixel sex before we met in RL, and obviously never did after meeting. Rha....just offered her a counter opinion. Some people just see pixels, some people see people.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-10-2009 08:23
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook Rha....just offered her a counter opinion. Some people just see pixels, some people see people. I understood, but was also just showing that even though people can have feelings, not everyone does the pixel sex thing that just because someone is in love, doesn't automatically equate to pixel sex (and for the record, when I was with hubby on SL, I saw him as a person, not as pixels, we just never felt the need to have pixel sex is all)
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Damien1 Thorne
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03-10-2009 08:24
From: Rhaorth Antonelli I understood, but was also just showing that even though people can have feelings, not everyone does the pixel sex thing
that just because someone is in love, doesn't automatically equate to pixel sex No... but it can be fun. Or so I have heard. 
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03-10-2009 08:33
From: Rhaorth Antonelli I understood, but was also just showing that even though people can have feelings, not everyone does the pixel sex thing that just because someone is in love, doesn't automatically equate to pixel sex (and for the record, when I was with hubby on SL, I saw him as a person, not as pixels, we just never felt the need to have pixel sex is all) Ahh, sorry, misunderstood 
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Lear Cale
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03-10-2009 08:48
From: Veedal Sassoon You can't Rha (imho). Anyone who says they can just split SL/RL emotions are deluding themselves or they have no frikin idea wtf love really is *waves You're deluding yourself if you think you can speak for all people, or know what love is to all people, because you clearly have no frikin idea. Keep in mind that for many people, SL is a fantasy land. It's very much a fantasy in that you can be whatever you can make of yourself -- that's one of it's greatest assets. However, it's different from a fantasy beause you're interacting with real people. You may not know it, but it's possible to feel emotions even when fantasizing. Are the emotions real? Well, the sensatation can be real, but the situation causing it is not. When you stop fantasizing, what happens? For most people, I suspect the feeling diminishes because the situation isn't real. With SL, we have a complex interweaving of fantasy and reality. As with a fantasy, the feelings can be real. Unlike a fantasy, the situation and people causing the feelings are somewhere between pure fiction and solid reality. What happens when we quit SL? The results vary dramatically from person to person, and from situation to situation. Love has many different forms, even when we limit it to romantic love. To say to someone that what they feel isn't love just because they can keep the expression of that love within SL and be content with that is arrogant, assumptive, and insulting.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-10-2009 08:51
Is this the real life... Is this just fantasy... Caught in a landslide... No escape from reality... Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see... I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy... Because I'm easy come, easy go, A little high, little low, Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, To me... 
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Kasuga Hax
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03-10-2009 08:51
From: Treasure Ballinger Really....? Will have to take your word for it, having never seen/had it. *blush* Kind of embarrassing, being a virgin but hey, Treasure is only 2.......maybe someday..... Oh, I tried SL sex, but I find it boring. virtual sex doesn't turn me on. Yes, I'm weird.
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03-10-2009 08:53
From: Kasuga Hax Oh, I tried SL sex, but I find it boring. virtual sex doesn't turn me on. Yes, I'm weird. No, you're not weird. You're just someone who doesn't. Others do. No big deal.
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03-10-2009 09:03
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook From: Kasuga Hax Oh, I tried SL sex, but I find it boring. virtual sex doesn't turn me on. Yes, I'm weird.
No, you're not weird. You're just someone who doesn't. Others do. No big deal. Bingo. (Or just perhaps, your partner wasn't particularly skilled ...  )
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-10-2009 09:18
From: Argent Stonecutter Is this the real life... Is this just fantasy... Caught in a landslide... No escape from reality... Open your eyes Look up to the skies and see... I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy... Because I'm easy come, easy go, A little high, little low, Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, To me...
ahhhh thanks.. now that song is stuck in my head GRRR (great now I will be humming this at the dr's office, sheesh)
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-10-2009 09:20
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook No, you're not weird. You're just someone who doesn't. Others do. No big deal. exactly!! some thoroughly enjoy it, others just don't get it (I am one of the " I just don't get it" types) I would rather sit, and chat, and get to know someone, and have a few laughs, etc, than pixel hump with them does that make me weird? (I highly doubt it, but some others things about me, well they definitely make me weird LOL)
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Brenda Connolly
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03-10-2009 09:22
From: Rhaorth Antonelli exactly!!
some thoroughly enjoy it, others just don't get it
(I am one of the " I just don't get it" types)
I would rather sit, and chat, and get to know someone, and have a few laughs, etc, than pixel hump with them
does that make me weird? (I highly doubt it, but some others things about me, well they definitely make me weird LOL) Sometimes chatting and laughing goes on during pixel humping as well Face it, the animations are only so so, it's the narrative that does it.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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03-10-2009 09:24
From: Lear Cale Love has many different forms, even when we limit it to romantic love. To say to someone that what they feel isn't love just because they can keep the expression of that love within SL and be content with that is arrogant, assumptive, and insulting.
Real "love" cannot be turned on and off depending on your log in status. If you truly love someone,it doesn't begin and end at the log in screen. Of course there are many factors that make it impossible to bring a SL relationship to RL. I get that. Though if it is love,you are going to want it.(Even if you never can pursue that want) If you are honestly content with an SL relationship,and no want for anything else.. You are not in love,you are role playing. JMO and junk. With that being said,I think the word love is thrown around way too often and fast in SL. I have seen so many couples express their undying love for each other after two days to only break up a week later. I think over active hormones and the lack of accountability (anonymous) are to blame...Nothing sends up a red flag for me more than some guy I just met two days before telling me he loves me. Blech.
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