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What wishes would you like SL's content creators to grant this Christmas?

Zim Gunsberg
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Join date: 16 May 2008
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12-02-2008 12:56
From: Skell Dagger
...So I started this thread for us to tell SL's content creators our Christmas (and year-round) wishes...what wishes would you like SL's content creators to grant this Christmas?


I would wish for more/better skin options for blonde guys... So far I've only been able to find one good blonde men's skin in all of SL that doesn't leave me looking made-up (or with black eyebrows).
Snickers Snook
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Join date: 17 Apr 2007
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12-02-2008 13:16
From: Argent Stonecutter
First, sunsets are not red because of Windlight, but because of Windlight's settings, which makes a difference with 1.22 because you'll finally be able to save your settings in a file that will survive updates.

Second, before Windlight, textures on prims and textures on clothes and tints on prims or clothes were all treated differently by light. For example, tints on prims got washed out much faster than textures on prims, but tints on the clothes layers stayed. In Windlight, both prims and clothes are "colorfast", and lighting is applied more evenly. Prims that previously had been textured to account for this don't look right... so there's a change, yes, but it really seems to be a change to reduce the difference between avatars and prims.


I never used to mod my prim clothing textures much pre-Windlight. Now I have to or people complain. I understand that you may and other long-time users customize your settings which may reduce the effect, but 9 out of 10 SL users don't. By default, things look more red at most times during the day. Prim skirts angle out from the avatar and the transition from prim texture to glitch pant texture looks more abrupt.

I don't really care about the science behind it all. I really only care about what works in the final product for the majority of my customers. That's why I leave my personal settings under Windlight on the default LL settings when I make clothing. :)
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-02-2008 13:39
From: Snickers Snook
I never used to mod my prim clothing textures much pre-Windlight. Now I have to or people complain.
Yes, I understand... windlight changed the relationship, and content designed for the old model where the avatar and prims had less dynamic range and the avatar in particular was relatively flatter don't look good in Windlight. The higher dynamic range also makes the joint between the avatar and the prim stand out more. This also makes prim-prim intersections stand out more. I argued against this increase in contrast when Windlight was introduced.

I wasn't saying there wasn't a problem, I was just trying to point out that it effects prims at least as much. Prim-based avatars have the same problems, and that has nothing to do with skin and clothing layers being treated differently from prims.
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Betty Doyle
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Join date: 15 Aug 2006
Posts: 336
12-02-2008 13:48
It seems to mostly have to do with the sun/moon position slider. I create my outfits with that set to zero, which gets rid of the harsh shadows on the avatar as well. Any of the other sliders can be altered, and the prims will still match.

I don't know how you work under default settings...it would drive me batty. Besides, doesn't default change throughout the SL day? I know sometimes when I log in it is really dark and other times not...

One good thing about Windlight at least is I don't need to wear a facelight anymore. :)
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Clarissa Lowell
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12-05-2008 01:54
From: LittleMe Jewell
I don't remember if I already said this, but please, please, please add a picture of the item into the package.


Ooh, yes please - this saves SO much time when sorting inventory later or renaming folders. Or looking for a quick change and not sure what's in there...cos buyer forgot to sort it after an exhaustive shopping spree. :P
Curtis Dresler
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Join date: 6 Apr 2008
Posts: 155
12-05-2008 05:28
From: Argent Stonecutter
Given that werewolves, vampires, and ghouls are fictional... perhaps the creators have a different vision of what their imagined werewolf looks like than you do.


Agreed, but within the mythologies there are some lines, if blurred lines, and putting attributes of one and calling it another are IMO a problem. And some are simply wrong, with a clearly defined mythological creature being represented with a random collage of horns, hair and fangs.

Unfortunately, you would still hold a point because there are so many authors in the various genres that seem to love mixing it up and ignoring anything historical, so probably the ones I don't like could point to a book or similar (and some books irritate me for the same reasons). Still, I appreciate it when someone seems to have actually looked through the history before making the av.

It also happens with gods, such as (making up an example) with Odin being mixed in with Wotan. That they overlap doesn't mean you should take attributes that were Odin's own and add them to Wotan (and replacing what was actually Wotan's). Herne the Hunter is a very specific example of the Horned Hunter and should be represented as such (another made up example). I guess it irritates me a bit because mythology is a hobby of mine and when you spend time trying to work back through the threads of pre-'I'm too lazy to make up my own mythology so I'll just misappropriate someone else's literature' mythos and realize people are learning what they 'know' about a mythological being from the casual and careless, it is a tad annoying (although I try to hide it).

In any event, what I would like isn't going to happen. I'm just happy that someone told me about 'New Window'.
Nic Writer
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Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 740
12-05-2008 06:06
I know! What if there were a great big treasure hunt where I could TP all over the grid, getting a look at amazing builds and cool content and having some seasonal fun along the way...

Oh, wait - there is. (But I seem to be doing it wrong. I see people jump in, find the globe, and jump out but I keep wanting to explore. Found the neatest roller-coaster sleigh ride last night... And snagged some dresses I saw a while ago but couldn't remember the store to go back to...And one of these times I really am going to pull out my ice skates and stay and skate a while somewhere...)

How about this, then? Stop spamming me when I come to your store! I don't mind a single popup or a notecard while I'm rezzing in, but I probably don't need it and my trash can is stuffed with declined LMs. And for goodness sake, just because I landed in your store does not mean I want to join your group! Have a sign-up board, or post the link in chat so I can click it - but if I get spammed with an invite to your group just for stepping on your welcome mat... I WILL decline, and it's less likely I'll be back.

Nic "Crankypants" Writer

P.S. And though I admit I used to throw them away I have learned that I do like having a picture included with an outfit, especially if there are several variations of how it can be worn.
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-05-2008 07:10
From: Curtis Dresler
Agreed, but within the mythologies there are some lines, if blurred lines, and putting attributes of one and calling it another are IMO a problem. And some are simply wrong, with a clearly defined mythological creature being represented with a random collage of horns, hair and fangs.
*snort*

I gave up arguing about REAL creatures being represented as a random collage of horns, hair, and fangs. "No, a grey fox isn't just a bleached red fox".

It's their vision, if you want to use what they create for your vision you're going to have to adapt it.

From: someone
It also happens with gods, such as (making up an example) with Odin being mixed in with Wotan.
If you were to go back to what became the Germanies in Roman times I'm sure you'd find dozens of variations of Wotan, and honestly if you're worried about the mythical Wotan it's kind of too late to do anything about it, Wagner's dead and can't fix up the Ring cycle.

From: someone
Herne the Hunter is a very specific example of the Horned Hunter and should be represented as such (another made up example).
As far as I know Herne the Hunter isn't exactly an aspect of Cernunnos: he was supposed to be a specific person in historical times, a gamekeeper, who was alleged to have been brought back to life as a part-stag. The original Herne's Tree has died, but its location is known and a replacement was planted nearby.
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Curtis Dresler
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12-05-2008 12:32
From: Argent Stonecutter
*snort*
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As far as I know Herne the Hunter isn't exactly an aspect of Cernunnos: he was supposed to be a specific person in historical times, a gamekeeper, who was alleged to have been brought back to life as a part-stag. The original Herne's Tree has died, but its location is known and a replacement was planted nearby.


Actually, the second replacement was placed nearby, but the first replacement was located way off the mark. Assuming the original story was reasonably true...
Argent Stonecutter
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12-05-2008 12:36
From: Curtis Dresler
Assuming the original story was reasonably true...
*snort*
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-05-2008 12:38
From: Nic Writer
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Curtis Dresler
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12-05-2008 12:42
From: Argent Stonecutter
*snort*


By the way, they are doing Handel's Messiah in a jazz and rock version in Baltimore. If they can do that, I figure the Ring Cycle is still open for change. Maybe a rap version.
Pserendipity Daniels
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12-05-2008 12:48
From: Argent Stonecutter
The original Herne's Tree has died, but its location is known and a replacement was planted nearby.
That reminds me of the janitor who claimed he had been using the same broom for 50 years.

Pep (Mind you, he had changed the head 37 times and the shaft 8 times)
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-05-2008 12:48
From: Curtis Dresler
By the way, they are doing Handel's Messiah in a jazz and rock version in Baltimore. If they can do that, I figure the Ring Cycle is still open for change. Maybe a rap version.
They could base it on Anna Russell's version and call it "Eastside Story".
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Maklin Deckard
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12-05-2008 14:26
From: Malia Writer
Clothing that fits plus-size avatars without half an hour of tweaking. And no, the stretch in all directions option does NOT make the prim skirt fit properly, it needs to be designed for us. I would be happy to send a test shape to any designer that asked.

Ditto what she said, more hair for men, specifically looking for: longish wavy hair that isn't "rocker hair" or too femme, with the upper portion pulled back off the face. (I have seen many women's styles that would work perfectly if they didn't have that big sweep of girly bangs in the front.)

More wavy/curly hair in general, that doesn't have an ARC of 800+.

Oh yeah, and shoes that are not so high it hurts to look at them but are still sexy.



Oh gods yes! Would be wonderful to have designers that make men's clothes for average men, rather than the 98-pound, 5' nothing andronous 'male' that so many design for. Cases in Point - B@R, love their clothing, but its too hard to fit to me due to me being over 5' tall, or I can't tell if its for male or female from the picture on the box. 2nd Case, most furry avatar makers and the 'default' AV always being a 5' dwarf requiring massive prim adjustment to have an average sized 5'8" - 5'10" avatar

If it has prims, screw transfer and make it copy, mod, notrans. Seems the new trend in clothes is a refusal to replace attachments damaged while resizing (which you almost have to do unless 5' nothing and 98 pounds) yet make them uncopyable too.
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