Are some people really so stupid as to expect privacy in SL?

Frankly I don't see a difference.

I'll take the towel. You can keep the cookie.

I'll once again just leave it that our definition and use of "respect" differs.

I do believe that's the opposite of courteous, and does qualify as harassment, which unlike ban lines, is against the SL TOS.

And I do. We can split this hair all night.

Because they don't respect others.



This ^^

Well, I'd rather try to understand how and why you perceive a difference, but ok.

Why is controlling access to their private space disrespectful?

It isn't important you understand. Only I have to understand.

I have attached a certain meaning to a certain word, which I use in a certain way. As long as I apply it consistently, there is no problem for me.

i expect privacy in SL. if you don't respect my space, you'll be orbitted. my land, my rules. the end.

Prolly because hes 16 and his parents never did... well parenting lol

So, someone who is another person, who has their own feelings and priorities, their own fetishes and kinks, or hasn't built something *that you know of* or whatever, isn't worthy of respect unless They've shown that they have opinions that agree with your own?

As long as you assign your own definitions to a word, no one else understands you.


re⋅spect
  /rɪˈspɛkt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-spekt] Show IPA
Use respect in a Sentence
–noun
1. a particular, detail, or point (usually prec. by in): to differ in some respect.
2. relation or reference: inquiries with respect to a route.
3. esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability: I have great respect for her judgment.
4. deference to a right, privilege, privileged position, or someone or something considered to have certain rights or privileges; proper acceptance or courtesy; acknowledgment: respect for a suspect's right to counsel; to show respect for the flag; respect for the elderly.
5. the condition of being esteemed or honored: to be held in respect.
6. respects, a formal expression or gesture of greeting, esteem, or friendship: Give my respects to your parents.
7. favor or partiality.
8. Archaic. a consideration.
–verb (used with object)
9. to hold in esteem or honor: I cannot respect a cheat.
10. to show regard or consideration for: to respect someone's rights.
11. to refrain from intruding upon or interfering with: to respect a person's privacy.
12. to relate or have reference to.
—Idioms
13. in respect of, in reference to; in regard to; concerning.
14. in respect that, Archaic. because of; since.
15. pay one's respects,
a. to visit in order to welcome, greet, etc.: We paid our respects to the new neighbors.
b. to express one's sympathy, esp. to survivors following a death: We paid our respects to the family.
16. with respect to, referring to; concerning: with respect to your latest request.
Origin:
1300–50; (n.) ME (< OF) < L respectus action of looking back, consideration, regard, equiv. to respec-, var. s. of respicere to look back (re- re- + specere to look) + -tus suffix of v. action; (v.) < L respectus ptp. of respicere

Synonyms:
1. regard, feature, matter. 2. regard, connection. 3. estimation, reverence, homage, honor. Respect, esteem, veneration imply recognition of personal qualities by approbation, deference, and more or less affection. Respect is commonly the result of admiration and approbation, together with deference: to feel respect for a great scholar. Esteem is deference combined with admiration and often with affection: to hold a friend in great esteem. Veneration is an almost religious attitude of deep respect, reverence, and love, such as we feel for persons or things of outstanding superiority, endeared by long association: veneration for one's grandparents, for noble traditions. 7. bias, preference. 9. revere, venerate, consider, admire. 10. heed.

/me nods

They will respect it, whether they understand what that means or not

I don't have to agree with an opinion to value it. There are many people who have opinions diametrically opposed to mine that I admire and respect. And there are others who ,while I would treat them politely and courteously, I would not necessarily respect them, in my use of the term. I have narrowed the definition. Like I said, it is a personal view, and it works for me.

EDIT: Once the dictionary quotes come out, the conversation ends. Thank you, it was enjoyable up to then.

I wouldn't use ban lines at all, if LL created a "Pass through without stopping," toggle for parcels. I mean, if they could just go through, unable to stop on my workshop land, I'd be totally cool with it.

You have chosen to misunderstand.

It is useless.

Kokoro - I believe strongly that my perception is very valid...if there is ANY way that I could make someone understand that no one can "get" you here....that no one can mess with your head (unless you let them).......I would.

Tell me what a better perception than that would be....and I might adjust it.

I don't think so. I had to read your post several times to discern your intention. I believe that Brenda misunderstood, but not out of choice. The post in question wasn't as clear as it could have been.

There is no private space.

Not even in RL! *glares up at the sky, where she knows satellites reside, watching everything and everyone*

It is never so simple.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/respect/

Having scrolled up and re-read, I have to agree. I wasn't as clear as I might have been.



People who feel they MUST find a way in beyond banlines, have *no* respect for others. None at all. They are the only one that matters. If you expect "respect" from them, then you must be prepared to prove to *their* satisfaction that you deserve it.

I agree.. your perception is valid.. but only for you. It is rather easy for someone to mess with someone else even though they lack 'physical' access. Just look at horror films and stories, and how people react.

Partly, it is based on your statement "unless you let them". But a person can have a mental mindset, or perception, that prevents them from seeing the way to turn off a attack vector, so they are letting someone mess with them even though they would rather not.

Images, sounds, perceptions of actions have always been known to have the ability to change someone's thinking. What makes this visual stimulus any less reactive because it is "Second Life"?

To many people their perception of their Avatar has become entwined with their personal perception - so actions to, or against that Avatar can have the same mental results as actions to their RL self.

Nothing is simple.