Opinions on a Vampire Child AV
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FD Spark
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07-24-2008 22:20
I have played many roles in past due to my personal lifestyle in real life and some I would never do for obvious reasons except with adult people I know in person, I definitely wouldn't personally any more rezz a child avatar in this world even though most of stuff 99.9 percent of time was very rated G. From personal experience Vampirism is very sexual at least for me. Yet if desire to be child vampire role isn't around sex games it's not breaking the TOS in my opinion. I personally would find this too confining myself. There nothing wrong with child avatars in Second Life, they (Linden Labs) already said that but they can't be around anything sexual or sex. That is really up to you and who you play with though Gabrielle. It is no one else's business unless they see you break the TOS and want to report you.
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Tarina Sewell
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07-24-2008 22:24
Oh lestant the vampire, the girly.. (the spiderman chick) omg, that was so freaky... Actually that story needed that you know? I figure SL role play is like a book, so you need all sorts of characters.... The more characters, or controversial they are makes for damn fine reading.
I dun'no how you get it's a metaphore for STD .. I think on Strokers, and all I remember is a love story.. I don't even remember kids in it??
It seems to me the proper vampire would not take a child into the life.. But of course I'm sure there are devious vampires out there who would..
I look at movies, The Lost Boys, remember that.. Child characters... manny... oh there was NO sexual act there..
now I've not met any rl (real) vampires, only wanna bes (which in itself is odd) But Im always fascinated with them... Sexually, no it's not a turn on.. But I understand when bitten it is a very erotic thing.. So assuming this, yes you "could" theorize it being sexual.. However, I can't recall to many vampire movies where the vampire actually had sex with his ... prey. And if I understand, STD are just that.. transmitted via sex.. what can you catch from a vampire? anemia? Dehydration... Death>> not sure STD's are in that grouping...
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FD Spark
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07-24-2008 22:30
There is entire porn movie series around Vampirism, just got know where to look. Not sure about within Second Life because sexual/ blood fetish stuff in SL is something I am not really experienced with. But most people are grossed out by blood letting. Majority of porn is geared towards Men but there are some out there who are into this. Personally I prefer my vampirism in real life. But I understand people like roleplaying different things I am just not personally into roleplaying as much as some here. Sorry Gabrielle this is totally irrelevant to your post. Be who you want to be, as long as it going to cause you too much trouble.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-24-2008 22:33
From: Gabriele Graves I can certainly agree that there is sexiness portrayed in vampires, heck I do it myself as my usual av. However that is just one choice and I am disputing that there has to be sexual connotations when portraying a vampire, specifically a child vampire. heh I was reading this thread and thinking... isn't she the one who said in another thread how she likes to make it fun for her victims (in a sexual roleplay way).... then kept reading and saw this post and yep she is the one LOL anywho.. I would say if you want to be a child vamp AV then sure, go ahead, just be careful where you go, and who you interact with (I too see vampires with a lot of sexual undertones and blatent overtones in SL), so playing a child in that world might be a tad difficult (as for me and how I see it, I don't think vampires are sexy, I personally think it is rather... strange) some might take it about as calmly as taking a child gorean (and I am sure they are out there too) be a child tiny instead 
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Tarina Sewell
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07-24-2008 22:35
From: FD Spark There is entire porn movie series around Vampirism, just got know where to look. Not sure about within Second Life because sexual/ blood fetish stuff in SL is something I am not really experienced with. But most people are grossed out by blood letting. Majority of porn is geared towards Men but there are some out there who are into this. Personally I prefer my vampirism in real life. But I understand people like roleplaying different things I am just not personally into roleplaying as much as some here. Sorry Gabrielle this is totally irrelevant to your post. Be who you want to be, as long as it going to cause you too much trouble. <@> <@>
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Ann Launay
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07-24-2008 22:35
From: FD Spark There is entire porn movie series around Vampirism, just got know where to look.
lol, there's porn about virtually any topic you can think of! 
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Conan Godwin
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07-24-2008 22:36
From: Rhaorth Antonelli (I too see vampires with a lot of sexual undertones and blatent overtones in SL), so playing a child in that world might be a tad difficult (as for me and how I see it, I don't think vampires are sexy, I personally think it is rather... strange) some might take it about as calmly as taking a child gorean (and I am sure they are out there too) be a child tiny instead  Well, I never said they were sexy. I mean - is gonorrea sexy? To some people, I guess, but I think the majority of people don't find it too alluring.
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FD Spark
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07-24-2008 22:37
How about tiny vampiress? Still a adult just tiny one
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-24-2008 22:39
From: Conan Godwin Well, I never said they were sexy. I mean - is gonorrea sexy?
To some people, I guess, but I think the majority of people don't find it too alluring. never said you did dear LOL i was just saying, I do not find them sexy... ugh some ppl I guess do, but as for the majority, not sure...
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Conan Godwin
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07-24-2008 22:41
From: Rhaorth Antonelli never said you did dear
LOL i was just saying, I do not find them sexy... ugh
some ppl I guess do, but as for the majority, not sure... Still, I maintain that they are an STI. I mean come on! They pass on a curse through exchanging bodily fluids after penetrating their victim. Sometimes willingly, sometimes not.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-24-2008 22:43
From: Conan Godwin Still, I maintain that they are an STI. I mean come on! They pass on a curse through exchanging bodily fluids after penetrating their victim. Sometimes willingly, sometimes not. heh I am not disagreeing I also don't understand why folks do a lot of the stuff they do in and out of SL for that matter to each their own me I think I am turning into a tiny ROFL (or at least a tiny maker, these things are fun to make, so many ideas.... so little time...)
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Ann Launay
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07-24-2008 22:45
From: Conan Godwin Still, I maintain that they are an STI. I mean come on! They pass on a curse through exchanging bodily fluids after penetrating their victim. Sometimes willingly, sometimes not. You can catch rabies from a bite too, and I don't believe it's been classified as a sexually transmitted disease.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-24-2008 22:47
From: Ann Launay You can catch rabies from a bite too, and I don't believe it's been classified as a sexually transmitted disease. how many rabid animals try to seduce you before they bite you???
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Ann Launay
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07-24-2008 22:49
From: Rhaorth Antonelli how many rabid animals try to seduce you before they bite you??? As has been mentioned, not all vampires do the seduction thing either. *shrug*
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-24-2008 22:51
From: Ann Launay As has been mentioned, not all vampires do the seduction thing either. *shrug* granted I have not encountered a lot of vampires in SL or in books or on TV, but what I have seen, definitely has tons of sexual undertones (and seduction etc) meh only what I have seen not like they are real or anything like that
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Ann Launay
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07-24-2008 22:55
From: Rhaorth Antonelli not like they are real or anything like that
That's what they WANT you to think.  Oh! And 30 Days of Night is a very unseductive recent movie on the topic.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-24-2008 22:57
From: Ann Launay That's what they WANT you to think.  Oh! And 30 Days of Night is a very unseductive recent movie on the topic. have not seen that one and yeah, they do not exist aliens do though
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3Ring Binder
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07-24-2008 23:30
From: Maureen Boccaccio ROFL!!! Nice, 3Ring!  (edit: I mean your design and clever caption...) google found the design, i just added some font. notice the 3 above the cat.... 
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3Ring Binder
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07-24-2008 23:33
but wait.... why can't a person make a child av that has fangs n vampire qualities, and just walk around and do the kid thing... just look different and cute? not everyone has an agenda in SL.
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Gabriele Graves
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07-25-2008 00:08
OK, just rejoined after my drive home. First of all people are assuming I want to be a child vampire. No where did I say this, I stated I was interested in people's views on the acceptance of it and was hoping to start a good discussion perhaps. Thank you for all those who have responded so far however but lets please get past the supposed sexual thing because honestly I do not see that it is something that has to go hand in hand with vampirism. For me its bit like say children are synonymous with sex because as they are offspring they are suggestive of sex. Total hogwash. To Rhaorth: Yes I do use sexual seduction as my adult av. However If I was considering being a child vampire then obviously I would not be using sexual seduction and I did state this in the OP to consider that sex would not be part of the scene. That said there is more than one type of seduction. If a vampire child lures prey by pretending to be a helpless lost child with nowhere to go, then that is also seduction - just not of a sexual nature. See what I mean? To Coyote: Well the idea would be to still be quite creepy lol To FD: I think that a lot of people are here in SL for reasons other than sex, so I can quite conceivably see this appealing to a fair amount of people. Plus there are whole porn movies based on normal humans, does that mean all humans have to be linked with sex all the time? Not being picky, just trying to show you a different perspective here. Also I already am a tiny vamp, probably the smallest non-child av I know lol. To Conan: Ahh you're back, don't see you answering my original question about bats and cows still To Ann: Thanks for your comments, they seem very inline with my own thoughts. I watched 30 Days of night recently and I have to tell you its been a long time since I have watched a vamp movie and didn't root for the vamps - this scared the heck out of me! Great movie! I defy anyone to say it turned them on! lol. Finally to 3Ring: Yes I think that is a perfectly acceptable way of being in SL too, though I did kind of imagine a dark child coven of blood drinkers too, I did think that a more toned down version of the same idea would allow mingling with other SL kids safely as an option. I hope I have given something back here to all who replied. Now what about the violence, any thoughts on that? Seems we are getting hung up a lot here on sex with out any regards to the violence at all. I roleplayed in City of Lost Angels as mentioned before, and when the sexual ageplay ban did come in and the ensuing panic that followed, they took the stance of saying child avs were fine (even vamp ones) but they were not allow to enact any violence or use the combat system. I found this to be interesting as I am not sure it was really addressing a concern of LL's but they felt it was safe to enforce this as well as the sexual ageplay. Is violence therefore an adult theme only and should pretend children who are really adults have to be non-violent too? Would LL have a problem with a roleplay sim where their were violent child vampire avs? Sorry for the long post but this is what has been mulling over in my head for a little while.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-25-2008 00:35
well the way I see it
if you (or someone you know) wants to play a child vamp avatar, and there will be no sexual overtones or undertones, then sure, go ahead (and I woudl say that regardless of what type of child avatar was in question
why should it matter if the kid has white skin, and drinks blood? after all it is make believe right?
there would be no breaking of the TOS since as you stated there would be no sexual activities involving said child avatar
(now on a personal level I think it would be weird seeing a child avatar as a vamp, children are supposed to be innocent and good, in my opinion, and tricking ppl to feed off of them is not innocent or good)
however that is a personal view, as for the TOS part, I answered in the first part
take this post however you wish
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Denise Bonetto
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07-25-2008 00:35
I have seen several child vampires in SL and know whole families exist here including children. I have never roleplayed in vampire sims, only visit to help customers or just wander about, but I suppose rping as a child would depend on how sexual the vampire sim is. Some are set up for sexual encounters, some aren't.
Inverview with a Vampire had a child vampire very prominant in the story and don't think we watched that thinking in a sexual way .... well I sure didn't.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-25-2008 00:37
From: Gabriele Graves Is violence therefore an adult theme only and should pretend children who are really adults have to be non-violent too? Would LL have a problem with a roleplay sim where their were violent child vampire avs?
just saw this part they might have an issue with this, as violence is considered Mature and child avatars are considered PG and are to be kept within the PG guidelines
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Denise Bonetto
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07-25-2008 00:40
From: Rhaorth Antonelli just saw this part
they might have an issue with this, as violence is considered Mature and child avatars are considered PG and are to be kept within the PG guidelines Surely the only problem with child AVs is the sexual age play depicting paedophilia? As far as I know that is the only illigal part of adults playing children.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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07-25-2008 00:41
From: Denise Bonetto Surely the only problem with child AVs is the sexual age play depicting paedophilia? As far as I know that is the only illigal part of adults playing children. I am trying to remember for sure, would have to search out the blog post, but I think they also mentioned violence edited to add: This is the blog post I was thinking of http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/05/31/keeping-second-life-safe-together/From: someone <snip> avatar portrayals, and other depictions of extreme or graphic violence, and other broadly offensive content are never allowed or tolerated within Second Life <snip>
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