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Isabeau Imako
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05-07-2008 12:33
From: Stormy Dyrssen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeTBG9PU5Js

Maybe this will lend a helpful resolution to your question :)


Aha! So that's what it is.

Although I don't think I'd ever wear a 'furry' suit in RL unless it was at a costume party, why all the hate in SL? I still don't get that.

Human Cartoon - OK
Non Human cartoon - not OK

Better left for another thread, I suppose.
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2k Suisei
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05-07-2008 12:46
From: Isabeau Imako
Aha! So that's what it is.

Although I don't think I'd ever wear a 'furry' suit in RL unless it was at a costume party, why all the hate in SL?


Well it's no surprise that the majority of people don't like the thought of folk being turned on by animals. and I suppose having sex with something that's half animal only makes it half better.

Although a playboy bunny girl would be more than fine by me!.

God I'm an hypocrite.
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05-07-2008 12:50
From: Isabeau Imako
...Although I don't think I'd ever wear a 'furry' suit in RL unless it was at a costume party, why all the hate in SL? I still don't get that...
It carries over from the *chan boards where gays, furries, and just about any other alternative life style is targeted by the Internet Hate Machine. (=_=)
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Isabeau Imako
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05-07-2008 13:01
I wonder if I wore a Tree avatar, if people would think I have some kind of foliage fetish?
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2k Suisei
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05-07-2008 13:11
From: Isabeau Imako
I wonder if I wore a Tree avatar, if people would think I have some kind of foliage fetish?


Only if they caught you rubbing your crotch against a leaf.

Like these filthy perverts:

Stormy Dyrssen
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05-07-2008 13:27
LMAO!!!! She could easily hide in the bush...would be difficult to be caught.
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Maureen Boccaccio
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05-07-2008 13:52
There are some people that I have only *met* here in the forums; I've never seen them or spoken with them inworld. So my opinion of them is basely primarily on their written word in the forums. I do, on occasion, pull up someone's profile via zonkster.com or taterunino.net while reading the forums...just to get a little more information about them.

Inworld? When I meet someone for the first time, I do look at profiles, just to see if there are any interesting morsels of information which will help me in my conversations...but again, my opinion is based primarily on what they are saying, not what they look like or what they are wearing.

Personally, I pay much more attention to non-human AVs, or the partially-human AVs, meaning I love checking out all the details on the avatar. And the variety of choices! I see something new every day.

And the completely "human" AVs? Well, about the only things I notice are if they've changed their hair color or their skin in some marked fashion, or if they've wearing some new and interesting item(s) of clothing/accessories (oooh...Rioko's boots..ooooh).

Most of the time, I am too busy frantically trying to think of something to say, clever or otherwise. So there are times where, when the chatting is fast and furious, I don't even notice what someone looks like or what they are wearing or not wearing.

(thus speaketh the person whose human avatar does an incredible amount of clothes shopping inworld, singlehandedly saving the SL economy.)
Annabelle Babii
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05-07-2008 13:56
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FD Spark
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05-07-2008 22:21
From: Keira Wells
The thing is, to me, it's like real life. You're going to judge people in your mind always, no matter what.

Would you be more likely to strike up a conversation with a guy in all leathers, spiked helmet, with a shotgun strapped to his back, or the guy with the clean, crisp shirt and trousers, friendly clean shaven face, and trimmed hair?

I judge people in SL based on appearance only until I get to know them. Same as I do in RL. It's just not something I can control, I automatically pass some amount of judgment on sight.

I didn't mean we shouldn't judge people, it is personal decision.
Personally I don't judge people on petty things...but I must confess I do judge people on how I feel around them be it in real life or pixels. Do they make me uncomfortable or uncomfortable.
Years ago in real life I met this homeless man, he was in lot of ways very scary looking but over time I found he was very nice, hard working man and those first opinions I may have had about him were pretty shallow.
There are times though we need to make judgments about others for various reasons.
Personally someone dressed in interesting avatar who made cool stuff I would find someone more interesting then someone dressed like a Barbie or Ken...
but I wouldn't base that on a long lasting friendship.
If I befriended someone and they could never seem to put any type of coherent sentence together, I don't know if I would want to talk to them a whole lot. It isn't that I think they are bad person but having the equivalent of every other word as huh or ? or the person unable to see I am doing something while they know I am building something,etc and they constantly require I entertain them but can't seem to carry a conversation just isn't my idea of good time
I would find this very uncomfortable person to hang out with personally.
Also I do judge people by how they interact with others here in forums, I figure if they act one way here they most likely do every where because people are creature of habit.
If there behavior is very questionable here, I probably wouldn't do business with them in world.
I don't care what others may say about this but this i this a personal decision and it's
not going to be based on something petty like their fashion sense.
It will be based on how they talk to others, are they respectful to other people, how
do the behave when discussing things? Are they childish, opinionated and hostile or are they polite, but stick to facts and conduct themselves in mature, reasonable way?
If I ran into someone with really gross avatar and warts all over them that hurt me to see.
I may feel uncomfortable but if the person was my friend already I would ask why they wanted to wear that avatar.
If they said they thought it was funny and wanted to be gross,etc and thought it
was fun to make fun of someone with immune disorder...
I don't know if I would want to be friends with them.
Or perhaps I would react like one of my closest friends does when I am child.
She says if I am a baby she refuses to look or interact with me i.e hugs, she will talk to me but she is totally clear child avatars creep her out.
I don't get but I respect her feelings, its not like its avatar I wear tiny baby shape 24/7 though but I like the skin. Just not into being tiny all the time because its hassle.
I don't understand why anyone would be uncomfortable with child....but then I don't hang out with children in my real life so maybe that is same way my friend feels about here.
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Ivanova Shostakovich
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05-07-2008 23:05
Certainly I will get a first impression from an avatar's appearance. But also among the first things you see are (if you look) their profile, and the way they speak to you and others. In this world of ours anyone can appear beautiful if they want to. But no beautiful avatar can hide poor character.

Barring a grossly negative first impression, I will let your words and actions teach me who you are, unless you find me unbearable that is.
Otter Campese
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05-08-2008 07:04
I don't hold a very high opinion of in-world SL, but to each his own. Here's why:

Residents relate in different ways to their AVs, their (false) persona. Many of these folks are mental, to others it is escapism, to others it is real and therein lies the sadness of the jungle. The ones that are not mental can probably be found here on the forum and they occasionally venture into the jungle. These are the warriors and the ruler class.

I have a friend who had, or almost had (he's not sure yet), a RL relationship destroyed by a cute 105 lb AV (most females I've noticed weigh about that) and one of those male fireflies that feed on dead fecal matter (broken dreams) in the jungle. There is no jungle life you see, only dank illusion and dream rot.

In the jungle, deceit plays bass and mama plays trombone. Boy, can mama play some trombone on SL. But, if it were not for the SL mama-corps, there would never be any little squiggles sliming the jungle marsh waiting to hatch into 105 lb AVs, never any new mamas and new larva, never any new flies to virtually seed more lies and and illusions and more brokenness.

Fun? In moderation like all things, perhaps. For my part, I never did much jungle time. So what do I know about it. I have a life.

I don't hold a very high opinion of Second Life.

(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)
Imnotgoing Sideways
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05-08-2008 07:12
From: Otter Campese
(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)
... (o.o) .... Don't worry... I didn't understand a word you said... (o.o) .... (^_^)y
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Isabeau Imako
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05-08-2008 07:43
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
... (o.o) .... Don't worry... I didn't understand a word you said... (o.o) .... (^_^)y


Me too ...(o.o)...
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Brenda Connolly
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05-08-2008 07:55
From: Otter Campese
I don't hold a very high opinion of in-world SL, but to each his own. Here's why:

Residents relate in different ways to their AVs, their (false) persona. Many of these folks are mental, to others it is escapism, to others it is real and therein lies the sadness of the jungle. The ones that are not mental can probably be found here on the forum and they occasionally venture into the jungle. These are the warriors and the ruler class.

I have a friend who had, or almost had (he's not sure yet), a RL relationship destroyed by a cute 105 lb AV (most females I've noticed weigh about that) and one of those male fireflies that feed on dead fecal matter (broken dreams) in the jungle. There is no jungle life you see, only dank illusion and dream rot.

In the jungle, deceit plays bass and mama plays trombone. Boy, can mama play some trombone on SL. But, if it were not for the SL mama-corps, there would never be any little squiggles sliming the jungle marsh waiting to hatch into 105 lb AVs, never any new mamas and new larva, never any new flies to virtually seed more lies and and illusions and more brokenness.

Fun? In moderation like all things, perhaps. For my part, I never did much jungle time. So what do I know about it. I have a life.

I don't hold a very high opinion of Second Life.

(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)


And I thought I was a jaded cynic
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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05-08-2008 08:04
From: Otter Campese
(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)


pretty darn real to me
glad I was in the "did not understand" category :D
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Lindal Kidd
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05-08-2008 08:10
From: Otter Campese
I don't hold a very high opinion of in-world SL, but to each his own. ....(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)


You're here. You're just as mental as the rest of us.

Not real? Tell that to the person you mentioned who got his RL marriage wrecked. Tell that to the people who have met a special someone in SL and wound up married to them in RL. Tell that to Anshe Chung or Desmond Shang who make their living from this "unreality".

The avatars are fake. The people behind them are real, and therefore make SL real. Just the same way we do in RL.

"All the world's a stage, and all its men and women merely players..."
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Otter Campese
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05-08-2008 08:14
Yes, some posts prove a point. Thanks for your response. Your OP is quite popular and I look forward to reading more of it.

Is it better to be jaded or be a cynic? Yes.
Annabelle Babii
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05-08-2008 09:02
From: Otter Campese
I don't hold a very high opinion of in-world SL

<snip> I have a life.

I don't hold a very high opinion of Second Life.

(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)


Then can I have your stuff?
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05-08-2008 09:35
From: Otter Campese
I don't hold a very high opinion of in-world SL, but to each his own. Here's why:

Residents relate in different ways to their AVs, their (false) persona. Many of these folks are mental, to others it is escapism, to others it is real and therein lies the sadness of the jungle. The ones that are not mental can probably be found here on the forum and they occasionally venture into the jungle. These are the warriors and the ruler class.

I have a friend who had, or almost had (he's not sure yet), a RL relationship destroyed by a cute 105 lb AV (most females I've noticed weigh about that) and one of those male fireflies that feed on dead fecal matter (broken dreams) in the jungle. There is no jungle life you see, only dank illusion and dream rot.

In the jungle, deceit plays bass and mama plays trombone. Boy, can mama play some trombone on SL. But, if it were not for the SL mama-corps, there would never be any little squiggles sliming the jungle marsh waiting to hatch into 105 lb AVs, never any new mamas and new larva, never any new flies to virtually seed more lies and and illusions and more brokenness.

Fun? In moderation like all things, perhaps. For my part, I never did much jungle time. So what do I know about it. I have a life.

I don't hold a very high opinion of Second Life.

(Please take no offense. Remember, it's not real.)


It's real. What you see on the screen is just pixels, but the people controlling them are real. The majority of your rambling missive makes no sense. Something about deceased fecal material and fireflies in the jungle. But if you have such a low opinion of SL and of us - because you have decided that you are superior to us because you have a life and we clearly don't - then why are you here? If someone is holding a gun to your head and making you post insults or build stuff in SL, then tell us your location so we can alert the authorities to the potential hostage situation. Otherwise, why make yourself miserable by hanging out with people who you feel are beneath you in a place you have a low opinion of?
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Otter Campese
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05-08-2008 09:55
I can see I have offended you.

Have you ever posited a question, lit a fire, started an argument in order to learn, burn, or churn?

It's healthy - this dynamic we call difference of opinion.

Get over yourself.
Imnotgoing Sideways
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05-08-2008 12:42
Why do I get the feeling that I should be glad I never played Dungeons and Dragons? (o.o)
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Dana Hickman
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05-08-2008 12:58
From: 2k Suisei
if it talks like a chicken...

My vote for most efficient use of text to reply, and still be a totally correct answer.
lmao

If it looks like, acts like, sounds like... it probably is.
bilbo99 Emu
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05-08-2008 15:36
12 pages?!? you gotta be joking!!

Some of the most interesting conversations I have had in SL have been with newbies .. maybe up to a week old. On the other hand, I had a very entertaining half hour outside The Three Lions (bows head) with Bugs Bunny!!
I've met people with blue skin, green skin, scales, armour .. fins .. tentacles .. what's to judge? A prat is always going to be a prat however size, shape, mode of transport or material they are .... but! .. something particularly memorable and/or attractive is always a good starting point for a conversation.

Blimey! three posts today? that's me till August now!
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Conan Godwin
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05-08-2008 15:41
From: 3Ring Binder
yiffing sounds like a sexual act. it probably is. i still don't know for certain what it means since 2K had a question mark after his guess.



It's supposedly the sound a male fox makes when, y'know, getting it on.

The fact that a furry has obviously gone to great lengths to to find this out does not suprise me at all.

Strange, strange people.
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Conan Godwin
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05-08-2008 15:43
From: Isabeau Imako
Aha! So that's what it is.

Although I don't think I'd ever wear a 'furry' suit in RL unless it was at a costume party, why all the hate in SL? I still don't get that.

Human Cartoon - OK
Non Human cartoon - not OK

Better left for another thread, I suppose.


Mostly because being a furry is a sexual fetish, and some of us just don't want that on our land. You may not get upto the kind of sticky things other furries do, but I'm afraid that makes you a fair-weather furry.

From: Isabeau Imako
I wonder if I wore a Tree avatar, if people would think I have some kind of foliage fetish?



Only if you went to a real life convention with other people dressed as trees and you all fucked each other in a big pile and posted pictures of it on the internet.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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