Adult content officially banned from Mature and PG land from 15th September

A lot of people had no chance to get a free move. A lot of people don't own a whole Private Island sim with the decision being theirs to flag it Adult or not.

If you were renting Mainland (Like a vending space in a mall)? No free move.

If your store was on a Private Island, and you're renting? No free move.

If you want the freedom to do as you please, but you weren't deemed to be a "Commercial business"? No free move.

A lot of people have no idea how to locate new *rentable* space in an Adult sim, and don't want to pay for a Premium Membership and buy land. Renting was fine, until LL screwed it up for them.

You got a free ride. Lucky you. A lot of people just got trampled by the horse you rode over there on.

No, actually, we didn't.

People who had Adult businesses at the time of the swap had the chance to move free. The rest of us, who bought Mature land with the understanding we could do whatever we wanted with it got screwed and stuck with essentially PG land with no chance to swap.

Actually it required a lot of effort to make sure the Lindens performed the qualification process correctly so it was by no means free as I do not consider my time to be a free asset. I have less hours left to live daily. Time is not an unlimited asset.

And if you are a renter and your landlord failed to take care of his/her adult business customers then maybe you need to find a better landlord because plenty of the landlords did get the necessary swaps for their tenants.

So? What does that have to do with my post, or your previous post on which I was commenting?

So there is an option to make the sim ADULT and not just PG or MATURE? I didn't know there was anything other than PG and MATURE, haven't seen that option, I thought MATURE and ADULT was the same when it came to sim ratings?

No. I had a chance to cheat for free to get the swap.

But I did not cheating. I play fair.

So, I stuck on my nice and lovely mature-mainland plot, playing with a cutter in my head and being censored and equiped with reduced spontaneity by LL.

LL gave *not* all adults (which are people 18+ of age = we all) the chance to move free.

The free swap was only designed for actual kind of commercial structures.

Other people, like me, are looking through their fingers (facepalm).

adult is the new added rating which is like the old mature..

the new mature is the light version of the old mature..bleh why did they not just say mature plus instead of make it adult..it all sounds like it is just sex instead of what it all covers..

aaaaanyways..
if you are on an older viewer you won't see the adult search option unless you upgrade to 1.23 and then activate it in your prefrences..

Sorry yall i know i probably sound like a broken record, i'm just speaking for the club i'm part owner in we are trying to find out a detailed for sure answer of whether or not we are effected by this, so please forgive me. We are currently on a 1/4 sim parcel that is marked MATURE, and we are a strip club. So, unless the estate owners mark the whole sim ADULT, we will have to move, correct?

that's all adult is really is commercial.The rating really doesn't have anything to do with private uses of that content..
thats all i can figure as to why people were turned down..

not really..a lot has to do with the search words you use for the club and how you conduct business and things like that..if you like i can come by right now and look around and give you a better idea..i am in world right now if you want to IM me

I agree with you on commercial adult content.

I'm worried about non-commercial. About the sex-bed in my private security orb'd skybox up at 4000m up in the air on a parcel not in search -anywhere-, and the sex-pool on the roof of that box...

I made the decision a while ago about toning down what I planned to sell. When I realized my design skills were better suited in clothing that was sensual, or technical things like minor scripts and skyboxes - rather than building vibrating penises... I realized that at least commercially, I had no business being on Zindra.

But I like to have my private kinks now and then when I invite a guest over...
- And its always been understood by me that mature was just the place for me to be if that was where my mindset was.

What if I decide to make a flat platform at 3000m, and put a tree on it, and then put a sex-jacuzzi in the middle, and a swing on that tree with sex poses, and etc... but no walls?

What if I do it at 40m off the ground? I guess this is a no-no...

I know, I know, but in result I cannot longer rez my open air gallery and some of my "adult" artwork plus setting it for sale whenever I want, or creating new, etc., I even can't build whatever I like and adverstise it as it should be and so on, I can also forget to do a spontaneous garden party under a specific motto or whatever and I cannot use my wonderful designer-house with glass fronts (non tintable for style reasons, hehehe ) and hm however...and I cannot rez a multipose-bed in case some noobs jumping on it when I am off and the neighbors could AR me or the Resi-team has a trip to my location by accident and I set sure no banlines, no walls, nor tints.

What I meant is: I have to *think* now about what is allowed or not on my land before I log in, - this is what kills the fun. I am actualy in my PG/Mature phase but this can change *every* second of a minute and the freedom to do so *is gone*.

I have to buy adult land, if I like to play spontaneous, because LL is on a trip to hallucinate that a human being is 24/7/365 PG, or Mature, or Adult, but not a *mix*.

Maybe the board and the management is 24/7/365 PG/Mature in their boring lifes, but normal people are sure *allround skilled...*

Actually I think it much more likely that LL wants to force folks to own land in both mature and adult. The higher your tier the more they make. (I am only half joking here)

That would be virgin on the ridiculous.

Yes, there is an option to make the sim Adult -- if you're using the 1.23 viewer that is. And no, Mature != Adult -- most certainly not -- when it comes to sim ratings.

No, it's just ice cream.

ya thats where the freedom is now i'm afraid..I understand what you mean and it was running through my mind when it all started..
this is where i think estate owner have the advantage to change with the moods..but not everyone has sims but parcels on mainland..
this whole thing has been just such a mess for some many people..and so many people left because of it..places i liked a lot are gone now..
LL does things like the real world has earth quakes and hurricanes and tsunamis..
it's like.Ok well new people will be born to replace the ones that died off..

i was gonna get a couple sims this year but it's just too bouncy here to invest money from my rl businesses into something so erratic..I don't mind risk but they are becoming predictable in having a few acts of nature simulations in world a year lol

"Burlesque Acts" are specifically mentioned as Mature in the definitions. I guess their lawyers are stuck in the mid-20th century, cause we call them strippers in the 21st. So:

Getting naked on a dance pole: Mature

Offering sex for money: Adult

Having accessible rooms with sex furniture for the public: Adult

Depending on exactly what happens at your club, and how you advertise it will determine which category you are in.

Issues we dont have an answer for yet:
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Estates can flag regions how they wish. What if there is a club that is on the boundary between Mature and Adult regions?

What if you have adjacent parcels in a mature region, one is a strip club flagged mature in "About Land/Options", and the other is a garden, or boat dock, not flagged mature, so it appears in PG searches?

ok forget the paragraph i just typed, basically they are going to have to probably get more specific on the wording to enforce it, i think. i've had it in depth explained, so that i know how it does or doesn't effect myself and the businesses i help run. b ut a lot of people feel its very braud in some parts and not explained well enough and i can see why as well. so hopefully they will find a way to explain it better, which will help a little to enforce it. as is right now there's a lot of ppl who feel the wording doesn't include them, when it does, and won't make any changes when they need to. maybe i'm wrong but thats' just what i'm seeing right now

Actually, when you read the rules, it says:

"Region owners are responsible for designating a Region's maturity level. Occupants of Regions will be expected to locate in a Region suitable to each occupant's content and conduct. "

The only region owners are estates, so they are the ones who have to do it.

(Lindens are not changing ratings on existing mainland, they only are making new regions on the Zindra continent rated adult. I guess they wanted to (a) put all the adult stuff safely away in a corner (literally, Zindra is waaaay east of everything else on the map), and (b) not make people move by changing the region rating for existing mainland.

yeah that's true, very true. i think for a while it will be a big mess, but oh well. im just glad we dont have to move our business whew

Moore likely that they will look at whether you have a disused sexbed in your skybox or are running a dolcett ponygirl cathouse and video arena at ground level on a public road.

Of course the people running sex businesses are probably going to fly around checking skyboxes for sexbeds to AR in retaliation.

Actually all land any size is a region..this is just another case where LL should stick to their wording and refer to a private estate as either private region or estate like they do in the CS and just about anywhere..Because private regions/estates are the only ones that can change the rating where regions can't..

even in the buy land area they are referred to as private regions and mainland fee's are regions..
bleh i know it's getting all technical and silly and all but i've actually had to explain the difference to a few people already in world since they came out with the definitions..People that thought they didn't have to change because the word private wasn't used..

support is gonna have their hands full for a bit i'm thinking hehehehe