Adult content officially banned from Mature and PG land from 15th September
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Ciaran Laval
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09-14-2009 14:45
From: Darkness Anubis If the OP is right on the phrasing LL just handed griefer AR vigilantes the smoking gun. How many of us did not see this coming?
(listens to the silence)
I think thats what LL wanted all along really. NO adult content even in private on the old mainland. With PG and Mature regions all mixed up together it is impossible to NOT have something in sight of a PG region. THis will do a couple of things for LL.
Raise the auction prices of Adult land. (instant cash inthier pockets)
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Pave the way for redoing the content standards to PG and Adult only. With all the old mainland being PG. This will allow for an easy roll in of the teen grid to the main grid.
Log run I think this is where LL wants to go with things. It simplifies so very many sticky problems for them. Aye, this does have the ring of round one of making room for the teens, but a few more rounds need to take place before it will be feasible. The picks issue is interesting, Blondin says people can change the words of their picks, but how many people do that and what's the value of a pick for an adult location if the location can't properly advertise?
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Lindal Kidd
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09-14-2009 14:57
From: Micheal Moonlight Sadly... even tho it is legal women very very rarely take advantage of it... much to our dismay. Seems they just fought for the right to do so, just so they could say they can  Yep. Nipples are OK in Canada, in Canada You can show your nipples in Canada All the livelong day. But you'll freeze your titties in Canada, in Canada You'll freeze your titties in Canada Where frostbite has a say. But there are no nipples in Second Life, in Second Life No nipples permitted in Second Life They all have gone away! /me applies for a visa, and shops for a parka with cutouts.
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Stephy Silvercloud
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09-14-2009 15:04
ok, myself and my fellow club owners are confused. Does this mean you just have to have your mature sim with adult content protected with the age verification of those entering, or does it mean that you cannot have ANY adult content or business on any sim other than the new adult Zindra?
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Brenda Connolly
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09-14-2009 15:06
From: Stephy Silvercloud ok, myself and my fellow club owners are confused. Does this mean you just have to have your mature sim with adult content protected with the age verification of those entering, or does it mean that you cannot have ANY adult content or business on any sim other than the new adult Zindra? That is about the only clear thing. If you have an Adult business, it must be on Zindra...or a private estate.
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Pussycat Catnap
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09-14-2009 15:07
You can't have any adult content of a commercial nature on any sim other than either Zindra or an estate that is marked adult for the entire Sim.
The good news is that Zindra prices appear to actually be getting lower...
The bad news is that this might now last very long past the 15th...
The counter good news is that a LOT of mature estates are likely to go adult in the near future, and just use covenants to find a middle ground between adult and mature, keeping Zindra prices from getting out of hand...
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Ciaran Laval
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09-14-2009 15:10
From: Stephy Silvercloud ok, myself and my fellow club owners are confused. Does this mean you just have to have your mature sim with adult content protected with the age verification of those entering, or does it mean that you cannot have ANY adult content or business on any sim other than the new adult Zindra? You can have adult content on any adult sim. Zindra is the only part of mainland that contains adult sims, there are plenty of private estates that are flagged as adult too. Age verification is a rubbish parcel setting by the way, don't take that with you if you need to move.
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Ann Otoole
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09-14-2009 15:13
Estate managers need a tool to scan the region for any prim with an adult flag word. At the moment these people think we are supposed to physically examine 15,000 prims on a daily basis. I don't think they would fare well in front of a judge unless they provided a self enforcement tool that identifies an object that can show in search for adult words and gives it's location so it can be examined and removed if necessary.
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Alexander Harbrough
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09-14-2009 15:14
From: Lindal Kidd Yep.
Nipples are OK in Canada, in Canada You can show your nipples in Canada All the livelong day.
But you'll freeze your titties in Canada, in Canada You'll freeze your titties in Canada Where frostbite has a say.
But there are no nipples in Second Life, in Second Life No nipples permitted in Second Life They all have gone away!
/me applies for a visa, and shops for a parka with cutouts. Bah, you should come up here some time. Winter is still only one season (and in this part of the country the snow *usually* stays in the mountains even then).
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Zena Randt
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09-14-2009 15:14
Either I'm not getting out much or going to the 'exciting' places.....I NEVER see any of that stuff! Where have you been hanging out, Micheal? Z
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Kalor Rayner
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09-14-2009 15:16
What, you mean the polar bear club is still only for one season there too? 
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Alexander Harbrough
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09-14-2009 15:18
From: Kalor Rayner What, you mean the polar bear club is still only for one season there too?  The polar bear swim is only new years day. I have no idea what (if anything) the club does the rest of the year 
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Phil Deakins
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09-14-2009 15:25
From: Gomez Bracken In today's meeting, Blondin Linden has officially stated that all adult content on "mature" or "PG" land is banned and against the TOS as of 15th September 2009. Sorry if this has been covered but I've read every statement by Blondin in that office hour log and I've seen nothing that indicates what I've quoted. If I've missed something, would someone point me to the time in the log when it was stated?
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Gomez Bracken
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09-14-2009 15:33
From: Phil Deakins Sorry if this has been covered but I've read every statement by Blondin in that office hour log and I've seen nothing that indicates what I've quoted. If I've missed something, would someone point me to the time in the log when it was stated? In the meeting when discussing the adult changes (edited comments between for clarity)... [11:07] Gomez Bracken: Blondin. when is enforcement on the estates and mature mainland starting? [11:07] Blondin Linden: the 15th Gomez [11:09] Blondin Linden: people will try to hide it. In those cases, we'll NEED to rely on ARs [11:11] Blondin Linden: Innula, the 15th is the date of compliance which means enforcement will start on the 15th, not the 16th [11:11] Gomez Bracken: have the affected people been informed you will zap thier builds tomorrow? [11:12] Blondin Linden: what do you mean by Zaping builds Gomez? [11:12] Gomez Bracken: Well, if they have a build on mature land, and it's "adult"content, surely you would return it just like if I rez a fruit machine here now. [11:14] Blondin Linden: Gomez, If thats what it comes down to. But it'll work like any other AR. I urge you to keep following up a few days after if any of you file ARs. You more you file the better. [11:15] Blondin Linden: The more you file [11:15] Gomez Bracken: I really dont want to have to AR people, it's not my job to do - LL made the rules, they should follow them through surely Gomez
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Pussycat Catnap
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09-14-2009 15:33
From: Phil Deakins Sorry if this has been covered but I've read every statement by Blondin in that office hour log and I've seen nothing that indicates what I've quoted. If I've missed something, would someone point me to the time in the log when it was stated? This. Also, nowhere in there did anyone ever ask the simple question: "Can I get jiggy with it in my private home on mature land?" I guess I need to attend the next one of these and ask it - if I can recall when it is. Its a simple question, and if its never asked, of course they've never answered it: "Can I have and use sex-animations and sex-animation items on my private non-commercial home on mature land? Do they have to be in skyboxes? Inside? Or can they be in the open at ground or a common height? Or in the open in the remote-sky (above 1000m?)?"
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Ceka Cianci
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09-14-2009 15:42
i'll go by what the CS and maturity definitions say rather than Blondin...They change less than he does 
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Kidd Krasner
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09-14-2009 15:44
From: Gomez Bracken In the meeting when discussing the adult changes (edited comments between for clarity)...
[11:07] Gomez Bracken: Blondin. when is enforcement on the estates and mature mainland starting? [11:07] Blondin Linden: the 15th Gomez [11:09] Blondin Linden: people will try to hide it. In those cases, we'll NEED to rely on ARs [11:11] Blondin Linden: Innula, the 15th is the date of compliance which means enforcement will start on the 15th, not the 16th [11:11] Gomez Bracken: have the affected people been informed you will zap thier builds tomorrow? [11:12] Blondin Linden: what do you mean by Zaping builds Gomez? [11:12] Gomez Bracken: Well, if they have a build on mature land, and it's "adult"content, surely you would return it just like if I rez a fruit machine here now. [11:14] Blondin Linden: Gomez, If thats what it comes down to. But it'll work like any other AR. I urge you to keep following up a few days after if any of you file ARs. You more you file the better. [11:15] Blondin Linden: The more you file [11:15] Gomez Bracken: I really dont want to have to AR people, it's not my job to do - LL made the rules, they should follow them through surely
I believe you're reading too much into this or are confusing what you intended with what you actually asked. The way you phrased the question, it comes out as "If someone has something that's in violation, what will happen?" There's nothing to indicate that you were asking about what is or is not allowed on private estates.
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Argent Stonecutter
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09-14-2009 15:45
From: Pussycat Catnap "Can I have and use sex-animations and sex-animation items on my private non-commercial home on mature land? Do they have to be in skyboxes? Inside? Or can they be in the open at ground or a common height? Or in the open in the remote-sky (above 1000m?)?"
I asked Blondin this one months ago, and he said yes, if they're inside. You can even have them in a skybox above your non-sexual mature-land store so long as they're not advertised or public. In fact this is the question that made me start the adult content Q&A page on the secondlife wiki that led to Lord setting up the slapt.me wiki.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-14-2009 15:45
From: someone [11:14] Blondin Linden: Gomez, If thats what it comes down to. But it'll work like any other AR. I urge you to keep following up a few days after if any of you file ARs. You more you file the better.
IF this encompasses all adult content, not just businesses, as they have repeatedly stated, then LL can go to Hell and do their own dirty work. I wouldn't file an AR if I saw two nuns and a penquin wearing a strapon going at it at The Governor's Mansion.
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Tristin Mikazuki
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09-14-2009 15:48
From: Brenda Connolly IF this encompasses all adult content, not just businesses, as they have repeatedly stated, then LL can go to Hell and do their own dirty work. I wouldn't file an AR if I saw two nuns and a penquin wearing a strapon going at it at The Governor's Mansion. I hope you would atleast take pics tho 0.o
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Gomez Bracken
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09-14-2009 15:49
From: Brenda Connolly IF this encompasses all adult content, not just businesses, as they have repeatedly stated, then LL can go to Hell and do their own dirty work. I wouldn't file an AR if I saw two nuns and a penquin wearing a strapon going at it at The Governor's Mansion. Hehe, couldnt agree more  Gomez
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Gomez Bracken
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09-14-2009 15:50
From: Kidd Krasner I believe you're reading too much into this or are confusing what you intended with what you actually asked.
The way you phrased the question, it comes out as "If someone has something that's in violation, what will happen?" There's nothing to indicate that you were asking about what is or is not allowed on private estates. Private estates have exactly the same rules as mainland if they are flagged as "mature". Gomez
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Tristin Mikazuki
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09-14-2009 15:51
On a side note... Anyone still think they DONT plan on merging the teen grid with the adult grid?
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Milla Janick
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09-14-2009 15:55
From: Brenda Connolly IF this encompasses all adult content, not just businesses, as they have repeatedly stated, then LL can go to Hell and do their own dirty work. I wouldn't file an AR if I saw two nuns and a penquin wearing a strapon going at it at The Governor's Mansion. Promise you'll take a picture, please.
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Ceka Cianci
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09-14-2009 15:56
From: Tristin Mikazuki On a side note... Anyone still think they DONT plan on merging the teen grid with the adult grid? not for a long while..that's my thoughts though if they do it at all.
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Innula Zenovka
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09-14-2009 16:03
From: Pussycat Catnap This.
Also, nowhere in there did anyone ever ask the simple question: "Can I get jiggy with it in my private home on mature land?"
I guess I need to attend the next one of these and ask it - if I can recall when it is. Its a simple question, and if its never asked, of course they've never answered it:
"Can I have and use sex-animations and sex-animation items on my private non-commercial home on mature land? Do they have to be in skyboxes? Inside? Or can they be in the open at ground or a common height? Or in the open in the remote-sky (above 1000m?)?" It was asked, frequently, when all this started back in April. Short answer, yes, you're ok with stuff in your private non-commercial home on mature land, so long as it's indoors and not publicly advertised. If it's al fresco, no matter what the altitude, it really should be on adult land.
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