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Rock Vacirca
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05-24-2009 14:22
From: Paracelsus Schonberg
We interrupt our regularly scheduled thread for this report from our cub troll reporter, Rock. Rock, what is the situation in this thread?



Thank you, Rock, for that insight.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.


Humour, excellent. Debating skills, crap.

Rock
Shard Jinx
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05-24-2009 14:22
From: Argent Stonecutter
I've seen you make comments like this before, so I guess you didn't know that the join date shown in the forums is the month they first used the forums, not the month they joined Second Life.


Well even with the forum date being my possible join date...

His parents had to have dropped him on his head a lot if the basic tools for dealing with things in SL took him longer than a day (being nice) to learn...
Paracelsus Schonberg
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05-24-2009 14:26
From: Rock Vacirca
Humour, excellent. Debating skills, crap.

Rock
Ever consider you aren't worth the waste of energy?
Melodie Darwin
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05-24-2009 14:26
From: Rock Vacirca
No, I think you'll find that LL have a say in your choices. Try forming a Nazi Group, and argue it's your choice, and then tell LL to leave you alone.

There are rules folks, comply with them or leave or be thrown out. I for one will be supporting the moves to ban depictions of extreme violence towards women in SL, and I know I have the full support of those in my sims too. This is our democratic right, and I will vote for such a ban.

Rock


How on earth does an individual portraying themselves as whatever they choose have anything to do with forming a Nazi Group?

The op and the other members of that group seem to have left this thread at least 20 pages ago. But perhaps those who want to restrict depictions of violence against women should show up to Blondin or Jacks office hours and show their support there?

Last I looked, SL is still a private company, not a democratic nation. This isn't a vote. We all have the ability to express our views, and pursue our interests within the TOS and CS.

Blondins Office Hours: Wednesdays 3:30pm to 4:30pm SLT Hanley 205, 218, 25

Jacks Office Hours: Thursdays 11:00 to 12:00pm SLT at Linden Estate Services (usually down in the main lobby rather than his office.)
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Rock Vacirca
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05-24-2009 14:28
From: Argent Stonecutter
I've seen you make comments like this before, and I guess I ought to have said something then.

FYI: The join date shown in the forums is the month they first used the forums, not the month they joined Second Life.


I am well aware of the date that Shard joined SL. But the first we hear from him, sorry 'her' is on the 1st May when he, sorry, 'she' launches into several forum posts concerning BDSM and the Adult Grid, resurfacing here today in this thread. No payment info on file, no pic, and admits to being an alt.

Rock
Phil Deakins
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05-24-2009 14:28
From: Shard Jinx
Well even with the forum date being my possible join date...

His parents had to have dropped him on his head a lot if the basic tools for dealing with things in SL took him longer than a day (being nice) to learn...
Would that load of shit be something to do with you not agreeing with Rock, or vice versa?

I've no idea who is on what side here, or even what sides there are, but I do recognise a pile of shit from what it writes. You should do the forum a favour and disappear from here.
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MortVent Charron
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05-24-2009 14:29
From: Rock Vacirca
OK, found the text, read it, read the criticisms of it too. The basic premise in the paper is that following the legalisation of pornography in Japan, sex crimes fell. Well, here is the rape data from Japan, read it, and tell me if you think that Diamond's case is proven:

Table 2. Rape in Japan
Percentage Of Victims In Each Age Range For Each Year Examined
Age of victims\Year 1972 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995

0-5 0.7 0.5 0.5 0.2 0.1 0.1

6-12 7.6 9.5 8.9 12.5 5.4 3.9

13-19 35.4 36.3 33.4 34.7 39.8 36.4

20-24 29.6 22.0 23.0 22.7 24.5 33.0

25-29 9.0 11.5 11.6 8.8 11.4 12.2

Hardly convincing evidence, is it?

Diamond also makes no distinction between the various types of porn. There has been no definitive study on the effects of extremely violent porn on society. The evidence comes mainly from police officers, social workers, victims, hospital workers, councilors, etc. However, there is a definitive study on the link between extreme violence towards women and violent lyrics in music, http://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug03/violent.html

Rock

And if you cannot be bothered to wade through, or understand, the evidence Paracelsus, I will summarise it for you, it reads: blah, blah, blah.


Requote for ol Rock


When are you going to give number of rapes, not a breakdown by age?
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Rock Vacirca
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05-24-2009 14:30
From: Paracelsus Schonberg
Ever consider you aren't worth the waste of energy?


Then explain why you keep coming back to this thread.

Rock
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05-24-2009 14:30
From: Rock Vacirca
No, I think you'll find that LL have a say in your choices. Try forming a Nazi Group, and argue it's your choice, and then tell LL to leave you alone.

There are several Nazi groups in Second Life.
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Paracelsus Schonberg
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05-24-2009 14:32
From: Rock Vacirca
Then explain why you keep coming back to this thread.

Rock
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Shard Jinx
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05-24-2009 14:37
From: Phil Deakins
Would that load of shit be something to do with you not agreeing with Rock, or vice versa?

I've no idea who is on what side here, or even what sides there are, but I do recognise a pile of shit from what it writes. You should do the forum a favour and disappear from here.


aww harsh words, what are you his nanny or main?

I got as much right to post here as you and him
Novis Dyrssen
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05-24-2009 14:41
From: Rock Vacirca
Debating skills, crap.


Says who again...?



(Sorry again. It's like watching a train wreck. You just can't look away...)
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Shard Jinx
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05-24-2009 14:41
From: Rock Vacirca
I am well aware of the date that Shard joined SL. But the first we hear from him, sorry 'her' is on the 1st May when he, sorry, 'she' launches into several forum posts concerning BDSM and the Adult Grid, resurfacing here today in this thread. No payment info on file, no pic, and admits to being an alt.

Rock


Which is what you find on many of the users of sl

No payment info, no rl picture.

I don't even remember the account I made years ago.

So deal with it.

You got people spamming a link to this damn thread inworld...
Phil Deakins
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05-24-2009 14:42
From: Shard Jinx
aww harsh words, what are you his nanny or main?
Nope. I'm a user who saw the pile of shit you wrote and called you on it, that's all.

From: Shard Jinx
I got as much right to post here as you and him
Yes you have, but you don't have the right to post that sort of stuff, unless he insults you first. Did he?
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Shard Jinx
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05-24-2009 14:43
From: Phil Deakins
Nope. I'm a user who say the pile of shit you wrote and called you on it, that's all.

Yes you have, but you don't have the right to post that sort of stuff, unless he insults you first. Did he?


yes he did, by insulting me and my integrety.

So kindly explain what you are? His nanny or main?
Phil Deakins
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05-24-2009 14:47
From: Shard Jinx
yes he did, by insulting me and my integrety.
Post number please, or I don't believe you.

From: Shard Jinx
So kindly explain what you are? His nanny or main?
You're new to this forum. You don't even read this forum.
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Shane Roxan
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05-24-2009 14:49
From: Phil Deakins
Post number please, or I don't believe you.

You're new to this forum. You don't even read this forum.

#1110

And just looking at how you react to implied insults from your post history... you don't have much room to talk about her.

And I sent her the link.
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Shard Jinx
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05-24-2009 14:52
From: Phil Deakins
Post number please, or I don't believe you.

You're new to this forum. You don't even read this forum.


his first damn reply to me

find it yourself
Rock Vacirca
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05-24-2009 14:53
From: MortVent Charron
Requote for ol Rock


When are you going to give number of rapes, not a breakdown by age?


The numbers for the last two years of data before Diamond's paper are as follows:

1990: Rape victims, 1,548
1995: Rape victims, 1,500

1990: Sex assaults: 2,730
1995: Sex assaults: 3,644

Of course, since Diamond's paper was published in 1999 crime figures have increased significantly in Japan. It is still not illegal to possess child porn in Japan.

You might also find these interesting, from recent times, the publication of Rapelay game, and the story of the Japanese Rape club:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1137270/japanese-dismiss-rape-game-complaint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTxZXKsJdGU

Rock
Rock Vacirca
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05-24-2009 14:54
From: Shard Jinx
his first damn reply to me

find it yourself


Another guy pretending to be a female. Sheesh.

Rock
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05-24-2009 14:56
From: Rock Vacirca
The numbers for the last two years of data before Diamond's paper are as follows:

1990: Rape victims, 1,548
1995: Rape victims, 1,500

1990: Sex assaults: 2,730
1995: Sex assaults: 3,644

Of course, since Diamond's paper was published in 1999 crime figures have increased significantly in Japan. It is still not illegal to possess child porn in Japan.

You might also find these interesting, from recent times, the publication of Rapelay game, and the story of the Japanese Rape club:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1137270/japanese-dismiss-rape-game-complaint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTxZXKsJdGU

Rock




Got a link for those numbers?


and not the inquierer..... you do know they have articles about elvis sightings
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Rock Vacirca
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05-24-2009 15:00
From: Novis Dyrssen
Says who again...?



(Sorry again. It's like watching a train wreck. You just can't look away...)


Oh, if you think his debating skills are good, then blah, blah, blah. I also blah blah blah, that you blah blah blah, and he blah blah blah, with some blah blah blah.

Now do you understand?


Rock
Shane Roxan
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05-24-2009 15:02
From: Argent Stonecutter
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Likely he refuses or can't see that if they keep banning stuff... eventually what they enjoy gets banned too
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Shard Jinx
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05-24-2009 15:02
From: Rock Vacirca
Another guy pretending to be a female. Sheesh.

Rock


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Paracelsus Schonberg
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05-24-2009 15:04
From: Rock Vacirca
Oh, if you think his debating skills are good, then blah, blah, blah. I also blah blah blah, that you blah blah blah, and he blah blah blah, with some blah blah blah.

Now do you understand?

Rock
First intelligent thing you've said.
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