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Pserendipity Daniels
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12-31-2008 12:11
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
I thought you were arguing that an acronym had to be a set of initials that spelled a pre-existing word.

How am I doing?
You are doing mostly right now that you have apparently gone back and reread what I have actually said, rather than (as seems likely) relying on the twisted arguments of the less rigorous commentators to be found in this thread.

Pep (But I am not sure where you got "pre-existing" from?)
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Maya Remblai
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12-31-2008 12:12
From: Raudf Fox
Maya.. walk away. Quickly. Then sit back and chow down on the popcorn.

Pep loves arguing and I'm beginning to think the others do to. I think I'll just stay on the edges and watch the meltdown. Not to mention pad my post count a bit. I don't think this thread will ever get locked..


Oh I know, that's why I keep posting. :D You know, over the past couple of years I've developed a race for a sci-fi story I'll probably never write. They were engineered to be confusing, off the wall, and very good at playing pranks and messing with people, created with the intention of keeping the rest of the universe from taking itself so seriously. I had to derive that from somewhere, you know. :D /me munches popcorn
Talarus Luan
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12-31-2008 12:15
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I have refuted it.


No, all you've done is throw words at it. So far, you've yet to refute anything significant in the argument. In fact, it seems your whole argument is nothing more than:*shadow boxing show* "I'm right".

From: someone
Pep (And one more time: You remind me of those politicians whose best defence to a justifiable charge is simply to say the opposite more loudly and more often)


Well, if she did, then she learned from you, a master of it.

Go ahead, say it again to prove it: "I'm right!". It'll make you feel better (and give us another laugh for the time being, at least before we change the channel again).
Pserendipity Daniels
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12-31-2008 12:15
From: Maya Remblai
Oh I know, that's why I keep posting. :D You know, over the past couple of years I've developed a race for a sci-fi story I'll probably never write. They were engineered to be confusing, off the wall, and very good at playing pranks and messing with people, created with the intention of keeping the rest of the universe from taking itself so seriously. I had to derive that from somewhere, you know. :D /me munches popcorn
Are you stalking me, Maya?

Pep (Thanks!)
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Kaimi Kyomoon
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12-31-2008 12:18
From: Lexxi Gynoid
L.O.V.E.?

You love me Pep?
I do Lexxi!
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i think people are afraid of me or something.
Pserendipity Daniels
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12-31-2008 12:18
From: Talarus Luan
I mean, it may seem normal for you to run around wearing a painted-on smile and a large rubber nose, but to the rest of us, "t'aint normal". :p
As opposed to a scaly skin and wings you mean?

Pep (If your definition of normality is that perverse, then I'll be glad to admit to abnormality)
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12-31-2008 12:19
From: Raudf Fox

Pep loves arguing and I'm beginning to think the others do to.


Congratuations, you have won tonight's star prize... :)


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12-31-2008 12:20
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Entirely wrong yet again, of course.
And you're reasoning is? Didn't somebody already point out how like a politician you are - simply stating the opposite of what someone says. I guess it's your strange way of admitting you're wrong.

From: Pserendipity Daniels
Pep (Doing an apparently intelligent thing accidentally occasionally, as you probably do, doesn't make you intelligent)
Quite so. Intelligence makes a person intelligent. I thought everyone knew that. Oh well, at least you've learned something here.
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Kaimi Kyomoon
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12-31-2008 12:25
From: Love Hastings
I demand you look up "competing" in the OED and post it here! :p
Yes Ma'am. Actually I confess we are in the process of rearranging three generations' worth of stuff in my house and I can't seem to easily locate any of our copies of the OED so I'm forced to use the free on line version.



From: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/compete?view=uk



compete

• verb strive to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others.

— ORIGIN Latin competere, from petere ‘aim at, seek’.
I guess this could be what the subject of this thread is trying to do... I'm afraid I find the attempt to be a bit, well, feeble at this point but who's to say the day will never come when I regret not getting in on the ground floor (NGIOTGF)?
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i think people are afraid of me or something.
Lexxi Gynoid
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12-31-2008 12:25
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
Really. It's like ageism and sexism. How do people think it makes those initials feel?

Those words make my skin crawl also. It was the word, by the way, not initials themselves that made my skin crawl.
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Maya Remblai
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12-31-2008 12:28
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Are you stalking me, Maya?


No, I'm just hovering behind you, making duck noises and vanishing when you turn to look. :D
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12-31-2008 12:29
From: Talarus Luan
Contrasts well with the excess of vacuous spew coming from your direction. :)

Now now, don't ruin it. He was telling me that he loved me.

Lots of vacuous emotion = L.O.V.E. Though he also sees love as lots of vacuous emotion.
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Kaimi Kyomoon
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12-31-2008 12:30
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Those words make my skin crawl also. It was the word, by the way, not initials themselves that made my skin crawl.
Just has a bad sound for you, you mean?
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i think people are afraid of me or something.
Qie Niangao
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12-31-2008 12:31
From: Kaimi Kyomoon, re: "initialism
Really. It's like ageism and sexism. How do people think it makes those initials feel?
:D

+++

This would all be so much simpler if only approved words were used, and only in approved ways.

Then the whole Free Lunch thing could never have arisen: neither TIN- nor TAN- could have formed, not having been blessed by the Orthodox English Dictionary.

And Mark Twain would never have dared to write in a dialect other than the Queen's own. Nor Dickens, nor even Sterne. Literature prevention could have saved so much suffering.

Call it "managing change."
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12-31-2008 12:32
From: Kaimi Kyomoon
Just has a bad sound for you, you mean?

Yes
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Talarus Luan
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12-31-2008 12:33
From: Pserendipity Daniels
As opposed to a scaly skin and wings you mean?

Pep (If your definition of normality is that perverse, then I'll be glad to admit to abnormality)


There is a fundamental difference:

In my case, people can admire my scaly skin and wings. :cool:

In your case, people simply laugh at you. :D

In either case, they both define character. :)
Lexxi Gynoid
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12-31-2008 12:34
From: Qie Niangao
:D

+++

This would all be so much simpler if only approved words were used, and only in approved ways.

Then the whole Free Lunch thing could never have arisen: neither TIN- nor TAN- could have formed, not having been blessed by the Orthodox English Dictionary.

And Mark Twain would never have dared to write in a dialect other than the Queen's own. Nor Dickens, nor even Sterne. Literature prevention could have saved so much suffering.

Call it "managing change."

Don't you just hate how Shakespeare kept playing with the spelling of words? How improper and not approved. hehe
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Kaimi Kyomoon
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12-31-2008 12:34
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Entirely wrong yet again, of course.

Pep (Doing an apparently intelligent thing accidentally occasionally, as you probably do, doesn't make you intelligent)
I was pretty sure you were just joking in the other thread about demonstrating for your kids how to perform inadequately in order to avoid responsibility. :D
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12-31-2008 12:35
From: Pserendipity Daniels


Pep (But I am not sure where you got "pre-existing" from?)
Me either. The search for truth can get confusing sometimes.
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Talarus Luan
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12-31-2008 12:37
From: Maya Remblai
No, I'm just hovering behind you, making duck noises and vanishing when you turn to look. :D


<rodneydangerfield>Someone step on a duck?</rodneydangerfield>
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12-31-2008 12:37
From: Raudf Fox
Maya.. walk away. Quickly. Then sit back and chow down on the popcorn.

Pep loves arguing and I'm beginning to think the others do to. I think I'll just stay on the edges and watch the meltdown. Not to mention pad my post count a bit. I don't think this thread will ever get locked..


Posting about how you're above it all is hardly better. Being above it all certainly is, but posting that you are... Heh, nevermind me - just in a snarky mood today. Something to do with actually having to work...
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12-31-2008 12:41
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Now now, don't ruin it. He was telling me that he loved me.


Actually, he wrote:

From: Pserendipity Daniels
Lots of vacuous emotion.

Pep (or whatever)


So actually, Pep L.O.V.E.'s Pep (or whatever).

That's certainly more in keeping with his posts.
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12-31-2008 12:43
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Not many people do - nor ignorant dragons.

And for the record (as requested) the OED says:

acronym

/akrnim/

noun a word formed from the initial letters of other words (e.g. laser, Aids).

— ORIGIN from Greek akron ‘end, tip’ + onoma ‘name’.

And further for the record, the OED, nor any other substantive dictionary, fails to recognise TANSTAAFL as a "word", whereas it does recognise laser, aids, and various other correctly identified acronyms.

Pep (OED and QED)


Using this argument to state that "TINSTAAFL" is not a "word" is a logical fallacy.
The word "LASER" did not exist before the first laser was built. The creation of a word cannot precede its own creation. Some acronyms may parallel existing words - "UNCLE" for example - but that is merely the creation of a new homonym. It does not change the meaning of the original word. I don't believe Napolean Solo worked for my mother's brother.
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12-31-2008 12:49
From: Love Hastings
Actually, he wrote:



So actually, Pep L.O.V.E.'s Pep (or whatever).

That's certainly more in keeping with his posts.

He was quoting me. Mistress is ruining it. :(

(If Mistress wasn't Mistress, or if I didn't know Mistress I might have gone a different direction and seen it as a hidden clue that Pep=Love. But then I do know Mistress).
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12-31-2008 12:51
From: Lexxi Gynoid
He was quoting me. Mistress is ruining it. :(


Sorry! But whether Pep quotes others or not, unless there's an insult present, Pep is talking up Pep. That's how Pep rolls.

From: someone

(If Mistress wasn't Mistress, or if I didn't know Mistress I might have gone a different direction and seen it as a hidden clue that Pep=Love. But then I do know Mistress).


There's a scary thought!
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