Women Behaving Badly?

I have worked in the profession in real life when I was much younger but it was in different context for me than that.
It easier sometimes to allow others call the shots and provide a fantasy then ask for one
from stranger even if it is their job. I didn't really realize how hard it would be until I experience that.
It was learning experience but I also made realize I have no business being in situations like that especially with strangers.
if you're use to focusing on the needs and desires of others in those situations, it is lot harder to turn the table even if it's something you're paying for yourself..
I am not dominate and macho, controlling type of guy in those situations.
If I been typical aggressive, take no prisoners, take what I need type guy maybe the
situation would been different but that not how I operate or use to behaving around especially Women.
It totally different situation though then I would've experienced being on the other side, dealing with someone who only sees you with dollar signs in their eyes, has no interest in you even as human being.
When I was working in the profession I didn't even see my clients as cash machines,
they were human beings in need of something that is why they were in my life but that
might of also been why it was why I quit too, it just got to be too much.
I was utterly unfamiliar with dealing with anyone in that fashion so it was bit of shock to me because I have been pretty much celibate for years due to medical reasons, I mean literally years, not around any of that.
So it was totally bizarre and unusual experience for me.
Escort I understand she is doing it for the money that is why she is doing but something really missing in major way. I mean in a major way you would have had to been there to
fully understand what was happening.
I just figured it was me at first because it not something I am using to dealing with.
But 10k later in tips later I figured I made major mistake. All I can say is I hope she got lot of nice things for that 10k and had good laugh.

Thank you for your candid answer. I think perhaps you and I have seen some things in our reality that might shock some who read this so I will be careful not to tempt coarse or unnescesary comments. In terms of the profession itself you obviously appreciate the complexities that are faced in terms of the relationship and the issues of dominance and submission, loneliness and compassion, arousal, pleasure and "la petite morte".
I think then what we must agree on is that the average escort/courtesan/prostitute in sl has much to learn - demands for cash are crass and demeaning to both participants. In reality there is little or no haggling beyond a certain limit. Here, in sl, cheapness prevails. YOU were generous here according to teh sl economic scale. She/he was amateurish. I must ask if you told him/her about your long term disability. Does it hamper your sex life? If you are confined to masturbation have you thought recently about seeking for sexual pleasure in sl - I ask only because loneliness is a dreadful thing. There are good people here who can establish a working relationship over a period of time. After all, part-psychiatrist, part-pleasure doll is name of the game.
By the way, I never laugh when 10K is deposited in my account.

The men at SL behave far worse than the women. I have met men who come right out and ask if they can f__k u. When I say no...boom....they drop me like a "hot potato". The men come right out and ask "How old are you?","Are you married?","Where do you live", "Do you have any children?". These questions are all fine but...can we at least dance for a little while and let these come up in our conversation? They ask these questions before you even make it to the dance floor.

There is also a saying,"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". Hmmm....this saying can apply to me at SL also. I have been here since September and have met my share of men. One of the first men that I met here wanted to latch on to me and never let me go. Wanted us to Partner and get a place to live. Now, I liked him but, I wanted to see what was out there before I commited to a relationship. I mean, come on now, I had not even been here a month.

Glad I did not commit to this first person because I met someone else and we have more in common than I did with the first man. We are also online at the same times, the first man and I were on at different times. Although I cared for the first man...I fell in love with the second man.

I wrote and told the first man that it was over between us as I had met someone else. I returned the items of jewelry that the first man gave me, except for a Promise Ring. I tossed it in the trash after I got a nasty email from him. To make a long story short, the first man pretty much called me every name in the book and has made it a point to put me in his "Picks" so that he can let the world know what a evil woman I am. He sent me so many nasty emails and IM's that I had to block him.

Checked out his profile shortly after his little "blow up" and hmmm....he already had someone new in his life. She is the "love of his life" and they are a perfect pair. She is new here and he already has here in a Partnered Relationship. But...he sent me a IM on Friday. He had apparently been checking out my profile and saw where I mention that I now have a boyfriend here and "he has my heart and soul". As my "friend" said, "Hmmmm....sounds like what u told me at one time".

My reply to my "friend" was this...."Grow up, Get a life, Get over it and leave me the H__l alone!". Now I ask you...if he is partnered with this new woman and so happy....why bother me?????

And you men say we women are vindictive and cause problems???? Give me a break!!

We (women) are just sometimes more dramatic. There are men in the world with issues, rl and sl. Ignore is the best way to deal with that, at least in SL we have that option.

I found out a few months back that the first guy i dated in SL is still spreading rumors and saying ugly things about me to others even though it was literally 4.5 years ago. And this is a guy that was using a 3rd party program to take snapshots of personal pics i rezzed in world but did not want to give away.

And yes, the guys these days ask you all those RL questions immediately as if you want to give that much info about yourself and then when you do not they say something cold to you and storm off. More guys are in SL just for a quick masturbation cyber session than ever in the past.

And I'd hoped this thread would die a quick death. Ah well...

IMO, there are guys in this world who are total creeps (PG-forum people!), and there are guys who are awesomely nice people.

There are women who are shrill, drama-magnet, bitties (PG-forum people!), and there are women here who are so sweet and full of life it is impossible to not fall for them.

But men worse than women? Women worse than men? Bah. Hogwash I say...hogwash!

Just.Like.Real.Life.

I figure if you can sniff out the bad ones early, you're already ahead of the game.

Travel light...test the waters...but always enjoy the swim.

But doesnt that happen in real? Questions and probing? I ask men so I expect them to ask me questions in return. I hate the disappointment of being with a man who doesnt like Brahms or hasnt heard of Rothko. I like it when I hear intimate details; I can tell them mine.
And, yeah, men are here for masturbation - we just have to help them not make it so quick. But joke aside, yeah, men are earthy and rooted in sex-play even here. But I kinda like that about them. Especially teh older ones who are still youthful in their minds but time is catching up to their bodies; they have wit and experience and compassion and hunger.
We shouldnt slam our genders so much. We are better off enjoying our brief encounters.

QFT !!!!

If it wasn't for women behaving badly, I wouldn't spend half as much time in SL *grin*

Brahms?! Dang Jig, I LOVE Dracula!


Hey...how YOU doin'?

J (or is this "men behaving badly"? )

Heh, I had a gf like the recent posters boyfriends....

still talks nasty about me the rare occassions she's on.... haven't checked her picks in a long time (mostly because I don't care), but there was a nasty-gram in it to me for over 2 years... during which I was contacted just so she could tell me how wonderful her life was since I'd left :hrug:: I just nodded and smiled.... very not worth the drama (or abuse) live n learn eh?

I couldn't read all the way through the latest thread about SL relationships but I felt there were a lot of intelligent posts about the nature of RL and SL and where they intersect - having healthy boundaries as a couple - communication being key - etc. Where was the "male bashing"?

Merely reporting one's own experiences is not "bashing." As for your view of women posting their experiences "as a subconscious plea for sympathy" or whatever, well that's your view. Mine is that a lot of people attempted to share some of their own past pain in an attempt to help heal someone else's. To me that is an act of generosity.

And then also, sometimes, with the passing of time, one realises the story is rather humorous in retrospect even if it wasn't at all, at the time. So some stories are shared for that reason, too, I think.

I didn't see any blanket statements being made about the nature of the male gender - so I can't see how sharing one's experiences truthfully and accurately is "bashing." JMO.

I think it is hysterically ironic that Charly asks a simple question to draw out whether men have any stories about their own bad experiences because the forum is full of women wanting sympathy and attention - and once again the thread is taken over by pathetic females who want to complain about how "he done me wrong".

I also felt that the lazy and blinkered approach of female commentators is encapsulated by the last poster


May I paraphrase that as "Hey, let's cut to the chase! I don't want to read anything that might jar with my one-eyed view of the world. I want to join in the wallowing and vitriol"

I *know* there are some well balanced women in sl (and that doesn't necessarily mean they have chips on both their shoulders) but it appears from the contributions to this forum that those in need of psychiatric help outweigh them considerably.

And of course we men tend to stay silent rather than embarrass ourselves and our tormentors even further.

Pep (If you were trying to prove a point Charly, then well done, on several levels)

and thank you Pep for taking the time to show us why someone might have the Desire to bash men...

Yes in my 20s I had interest in many things.
I have faint memory about "la petite morte" that type of connection, to submit,
to transcend, to serve others in unique ways most wouldn't have concepts for,
where no matter how far the distance or in time you exist, the walls of reality change,there experiencing deep connection beyond the mundane, sense of magic and wonder in things
that many not understand here even in Dom/Submissive communities here.
The stuff I am talking about is beyond simple roles and whole lot more complex.
But over time my human body,emotions and needs have changed or perhaps I have
just grown bitter and become grumpy old man.
I still made special connections that are very close in SL here but its just not sexual.
I love the Women and Men in my virtual life it just isn't romantic.
Rest I cannot answer because it is very personal, not that I ashamed about it
just not something I want to discuss in public forum but I don't have a problem discussing
why things changed one on one in private, how my disability effected certain things.

Void, it's just the usual cyclical lifecycle of 'Pserendipitus danielis' (I would italicise, as required by binomial nomenclature, but alas the forums will not permit me to). Give or take a few seasonal variations, it appears from all observations to run thus:

Stage 1 - The egg

To observers this appears to be the dormant stage, but activity is not entirely suspended. Within the egg there is growth and movement, as P. danielis grows strong enough to break out of its leathery shell and explore the world.

Stage 2 - The larva

This is the most vulnerable stage. The newly-hatched P. danielis observes its surroundings and integrates itself, usually with mixed success. It tends to mingle well with other species in the same family, and after a relatively long period of time becomes a member of the colony.

Stage 3 - The pupa

At this stage, P. danielis begins to build a hardened shell around it. While still interacting with other members of the colony, it begins to attack at random. It possesses an adequate pair of pincers by now, but they never grow sharp enough to cause damage to the colony, who usually begin to shun P. danielis at this point. On rare occasions the colony's queen may order the workers to expel P. danielis from the nest if its behaviour grows too erratic, but the usual treatment by fellow colony members is to simply push P. danielis into the outer reaches of the nest and ignore it.

Stage 4 - The adult

The shortest stage in the lifecycle of P. danielis. By this time it is attacking members of the colony at random, biting viciously at the females (never a wise move for this creature, as the female of the species is more deadly than the male) and targeting one or two members of the colony significantly. Toward the end of this stage, P. danielis exudes a pheromone (Stenchus vitriolica) that causes the females of the colony to attack it en masse and seal it up in an egg, there to wither and rot until such time as a new P. danielis is formed from the sludge within, and the lifecycle begins again.


The conclusion from these observations is that P. danielis is a relatively small and insignificant creature that goes through stages of acceptance and attack. Its bite, though sharp, is harmless and non-toxic, and it is swiftly handled by the females of the colony.

WOW Pep, I see no need whatsoever for that level of nastiness. Or for any insults whatsoever.

I find it amazing you can diagnose anyone of anything over the internet.

What in my post was in your view, deserving of such vitriol? I merely pointed out that people sharing their own personal experiences does not automatically equal subconscious or other agenda aside from helping someone, nor does it indicate pathology in my opinion.

And again, wow...

This is hilarious. Thanks for the Laugh.
As much as I adore Women and most of my female friends their
is bit of truth to what P.Daniels is saying, when he points out
there often is more male bashing here then female...
How many post often are about Female who been wronged?
Not saying she wasn't but it is more common here.
Yet Women are the majority and always have the right of way, always
right in every way for they never make mistakes and all knowing in every
way should never be crossed without extreme caution and possible limb loss,
don't go pulling out any male sculpted prim dangly parts near them they bite it off or make you wish they had purchased it first place and shown her.
Haha

I just figured it derserved a sadonic follow up =)

Fine...reasonableness didn't work.

Let the bashing begin!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5k2V-M1cEc

(The question is...which side am I bashing here? )

*sigh*

Bash any side you want
/FD hands out pink and blue paint ball guns.
I think though I am going to side on P. Daniel's side, shocking but true but
it did come out bit harsh.
Shocking for me to admit.
I don't agree with many things he says but in this case I think he is right even
if it did come out harsh.
Too many women take down their guards, expect way too much then when
things don't work they way the want they come running to forum saying poor me.
Hey you know what Guys get their feelings hurt too, they usually are more butch
about and don't say anything about and if they did say something very few
are going to feel sorry for them, invite them for day of shopping and cheering up.
Well except me I am not very butch and I make my own clothes, I don't shop but that besides the point. LOL

FD...back to being serious for a moment.

There ain't no side to take. Men, women, it evens out. People are people. Some behave badly, some don't. Ya can't look at the equipment to figure it out either. For every he done me wrong story, there's a she's such a ^&*^( story, and an "I-found-the-love-of-my-life" story. The real trick is finding door number 3.

/9serious mode off

/me wanders back out of the thread whistling "She took it like a man...."

I agree. I was sort of joking but it does seem sometimes it more acceptable
to bash Men for everything that goes wrong.
While I admit Men do behave badly, start wars, and what not, not all of
us are out to hurt or use Women.
But Women have to take bit of responsibility for their own emotional and sexual situations they allow themselves to be in too.
That includes Men too.
And it isn't always easy to always do.
We all make mistakes and bad choices.
I know I have made my own but I try to learn from them, make better choices.