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Charly Muggins
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11-07-2008 04:22
I am feeling brave, having lurked for quite a while but also having been tempted out into the open in another sub-forum recently. And it is Friday, apparently the traditional day for lightweight questions, so here goes!

I have noticed that quite a lot of "questions" are asked by females which seem to be thinly veiled complaints about their treatment by men or possibly subconscious requests for sympathy.

My question is intended to rectify the bad PR we men seem to be getting, by asking if any straight men in the forums have tales of women behaving badly . . . um, should that be women giving men a hard time . . . um, I mean, well, you know what I mean, don't you?
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Charly Muggins
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11-07-2008 04:24
I should say that I haven't been in sl long enough to have had my heart stirred, much less broken, but I have heard some stories (that I can't repeat of course) that chill me.

/not rushing into any emotional entanglements in the near future
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11-07-2008 04:33
From: Charly Muggins
I am feeling brave, having lurked for quite a while but also having been tempted out into the open in another sub-forum recently. And it is Friday, apparently the traditional day for lightweight questions, so here goes!

I have noticed that quite a lot of "questions" are asked by females which seem to be thinly veiled complaints about their treatment by men or possibly subconscious requests for sympathy.

My question is intended to rectify the bad PR we men seem to be getting, by asking if any straight men in the forums have tales of women behaving badly . . . um, should that be women giving men a hard time . . . um, I mean, well, you know what I mean, don't you?

omg even in your attempt to rectify you use sexual overtones!!
We win!! \o/


kidding..i know there is good and bad on both sides.i don't judge a man by how open his zipper is..or should i say closed?
lol
and why do they call it a fly?
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11-07-2008 04:46
Trust me when I say, you ll get more responses from women on the subject, straight or not. I think we're going to end up with a slew of "how bad she was, and then we found out she was a GUY!" posts too....

I could tell you plenty of both stories seen both first hand and second, like the creepy girl that went around trying to start rumors behind peoples back,only to discover that she was the same guy that was stalking my friend the previous month after she turned him down.

or the the greifer girls that played all the angles, one would grief, the other would witness, and the last would 'help' then use the relationship in to siphon off money for her and her friends...

several prominent busines women that think of customers and renters as cattle to be herded and slaughtered if the price is right, or they're bored that day....

the list goes on, don't limit yourself ;)
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Maureen Boccaccio
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11-07-2008 04:53
Hi Charly - glad you delurked over in the other thread. :)

There was a related thread, not long ago, on this very topic...

But heartache, feelings of "being done wrong"...have been felt by both men and women.

I'd hazard a guess that women tend to talk more about it with others, near and far, than men do; men may keep it to themselves or share it only with someone close to them.

Therefore, you might not get as many fellas sharing as you hope...but they might PM you instead...
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11-07-2008 05:13
/me grabs a ballgag and sneaks up behind her partner
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Cherry Czervik
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11-07-2008 05:17
I can't say I have noted any male bashing.
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Piggie Paule
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11-07-2008 05:20
Lets just say I have known a couple of real life ladies that have turned into the biggest slappers you could image whilst in SL (with an almost revolving door onto their home) for the next guy to enter.

And of coure they are VERY secretive about this in RL....

If I make a comment, then i get brusahed off with the "It's only a game" remark.

Yet I wonder how they would feel if their male partners were doing the same?

Suddenly I feel it might not been seen quite so much of a game then!
Charly Muggins
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11-07-2008 05:27
From: Cherry Czervik
I can't say I have noted any male bashing.

If you don't look, you don't find

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/Without a hyphen, that is an ambiguous sentence as well!
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Porky Gorky
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11-07-2008 06:22
From: Charly Muggins
I have noticed that quite a lot of "questions" are asked by females which seem to be thinly veiled complaints about their treatment by men or possibly subconscious requests for sympathy.


Women.....complaining about men?

Women.....playing for sympathy?

How VERY dare you!

Women are strong intelligent creatures who never act irrationally, never moan or nag or whine or fuss or cry or manipulate. These are all myths perpetuated by men to give the finer sex a bad reputation.

At least that’s what my wife told me the last time she had my knackers locked in an industrial vice.
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Yosef Okelly
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11-07-2008 06:44
From: Ralektra Breda
/me grabs a ballgag and sneaks up behind her partner

Mmm, if you wear the gag I know I'll be speachless.

From: Cherry Czervik
I can't say I have noted any male bashing.
That was sarcasim, right?

From: Charly Muggins
And it is Friday, apparently the traditional day for lightweight questions, so here goes!
More like wierd, sick and twisted questions .. like would two girls, one cup be beter with chocolate syrup ... but that's something else all together.

From: Charly Muggins
My question is intended to rectify the bad PR we men seem to be getting, by asking if any straight men in the forums have tales of women behaving badly . . .
Yes, I do. But why should I tell them? It does neither her nor I any good. I did talk about it briefly long ago but other than a few close friends, I don't like to air my dirty laundry in public. Not for any nobel reason either ... it just reflects badly on the teller as well.

But my ex-wife is fair game :mad: :D
The same girl that used to tax my imagination each night by saying "let's try something different" told me she really did not enjoy sex much as we were walking back down the aisle after saying "I do."

She pawned her wedding and engagement rings to buy booze.

She showed up to my father's funeral drunk and wearing Mickey Mouse sunglasses.

/me laughs.

And I still worry about her. I want her to be happy. I hope she is doing OK.
Chris Norse
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11-07-2008 06:51
From: Yosef Okelly

The same girl that used to tax my imagination each night by saying "let's try something different" told me she really did not enjoy sex much as we were walking back down the aisle after saying "I do."

She pawned her wedding and engagement rings to buy booze.

She showed up to my father's funeral drunk and wearing Mickey Mouse sunglasses.

/me laughs.

And I still worry about her. I want her to be happy. I hope she is doing OK.



Hey! What are you doing marrying my ex wife?


As to the OP, the Forum ladies are all pure and chaste. None of them would ever even consider bashing a male. Of course throw a coupon for a pair of shoes at the latest hot shop between two of them and you will see a cat fight of titanic proportions.
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Yosef Okelly
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11-07-2008 07:01
From: Chris Norse
None of them would ever even consider bashing a male.

Unless you are into that sort of thing ...
MoxZ Mokeev
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11-07-2008 07:07
From: Chris Norse
Of course throw a coupon for a pair of shoes at the latest hot shop between two of them and you will see a cat fight of titanic proportions.


/me scoops coupon and runs
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Jig Chippewa
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11-07-2008 07:11
I'll give this a serious answer

Charly (and don't be a "muggins" next time). I don't think women behave badly, I think its your perception of women who are behaving independently. Sl provides an opportunity for many women to expand their horizons. They can own businesses, express themselves, explore their sexual identity - many things that men deny them in the real world.

Men dont do this on purpose necessarily; in many cases, they have been brought up to expect behaviours and moralities from women by their OWN upbringing. Men tend to be treated as little gods by all around them. They come to expect compliance from "their" women.

It is also evident - to me, at least - that the breaking up of families by divorce, etc. creates an instability and co-dependency especially by men. Women who reject a man's subtle and not-so-subtle demands to become their "second mothers" are considered "bad". That type of male is often anti-feminist and controlling.

I am considered a "bad" woman by many men who often reject me when I declare my independecy in a relationship (however brief it may be). However, I think men in teh work place are surprisingly decent people considering all the bad press they have been given. I employ or "share" my career with many men and they are artistic and sensitive individuals who are considerate and charming. Back home, they may be ogres and trolls.

I know of one woman to whom I offered an incredible opportunity - to live abroad, in a fantastic position I had created, with a decent salary and a future. I thought she would accept it but she called her boyfriend who (I learnt this later) pleaded with her to return to him and be his fiance, have his children and be a homekeeper. She chose him; what a young fool! This is absolutely true.

Men load young women with responsibilities. How many of you women out there are living with a man (not married nescessarily) who are essentially single mothers or at the very least loaded with a pet or pets that the man has brought home, or in charge of a household you dont want, or who are the bread-winner - all signs, I think, that the man is subjecting you to control.

Charly, read Emilia's final speech to Desdemona in "Othello"; women behave badly because men have taught us so.l
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11-07-2008 07:18
From: Yosef Okelly
Unless you are into that sort of thing ...
I do try my best to be helpful.
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Madhu Maruti
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11-07-2008 07:20
Neither men nor women have a monopoly on treating their partners well, or badly. Both men and women have found love in SL, and have had their hearts broken in SL. Both men and women have posted on forums of the grandness of their love, and of the bitterness of their pain.

Generalizations suck.

But if one insists on counting posts and comes to the conclusion that more women have come to the forums with tales of woe about their mistreatment at the hands of cruel, heartless men than the reverse, here's a generalization to consider: Women are perhaps more likely to pour out their hearts in public. And men, who are socialized to feel uncomfortable with public displays of emotion, and to fear revealing any sign of weakness, are perhaps less likely to do so.
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11-07-2008 07:24
I think the "getting deceived/dumped/cheated on" might happen more to women than men because "traditionally" we tend to tie emotion to sex more so than men and read more into any relationship, even ones where the guy has expressed a desire to stay casual - and "traditionally" men are more easily able to have sex without getting quite as emotionally involved (notice how I quoted 'traditionally' in all of that). Also, guys just do not usually talk about that stuff as much - hell, guys don't usually talk about any emotion type stuff as much.

I do know that there are women in SL that are every bit as rotten as some of the guys in SL - I have me a few. And I also know that the vast majority of the men that I have met in SL are very nice and seem to be very honest about what they do and do not want in SL. Maybe those women that are bashing men a lot are hangin out in the wrong places and therefore meeting the wrong type of guys -- or maybe they have their own issues that just draws them to those type of guys or causes them to constantly misinterpret their SL relationships.




From: Charly Muggins
/not rushing into any emotional entanglements in the near future
That is the secret for both men and women -- do not "rush" in to anything.
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11-07-2008 07:27
From: Jig Chippewa

Charly (and don't be a "muggins" next time). I don't think women behave badly, I think its your perception of women who are behaving independently. Sl provides an opportunity for many women to expand their horizons. They can own businesses, express themselves, explore their sexual identity - many things that men deny them in the real world.

Men dont do this on purpose necessarily; in many cases, they have been brought up to expect behaviours and moralities from women by their OWN upbringing. Men tend to be treated as little gods by all around them. They come to expect compliance from "their" women.

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Men load young women with responsibilities. How many of you women out there are living with a man (not married nescessarily) who are essentially single mothers or at the very least loaded with a pet or pets that the man has brought home, or in charge of a household you dont want, or who are the bread-winner - all signs, I think, that the man is subjecting you to control.
Wow. I don't think I have experienced very much of that at all in my life - SL or RL.
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11-07-2008 07:43
From: MoxZ Mokeev
/me scoops coupon and runs

/me chases MoxZ down and leaps, claws extended...
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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11-07-2008 07:49
From: LittleMe Jewell

That is the secret for both men and women -- do not "rush" in to anything.


And keep a bottle of good Scotch handy at all times.
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11-07-2008 07:50
From: Chris Norse
Hey! What are you doing marrying my ex wife?


As to the OP, the Forum ladies are all pure and chaste. None of them would ever even consider bashing a male. Of course throw a coupon for a pair of shoes at the latest hot shop between two of them and you will see a cat fight of titanic proportions.

I do not like wearing shoes.
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11-07-2008 07:52
From: Ann Launay
/me chases MoxZ down and leaps, claws extended...


*Throws out a fish, creates a distraction and calmly picks up the coupon.
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11-07-2008 07:56
From: Brenda Connolly
And keep a bottle of good Scotch handy at all times.
A case of wine works wonders too.
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11-07-2008 07:57
From: Lexxi Gynoid
I do not like wearing shoes.

I don't know why this popped into my head but ...

I wear the cheese. The cheese does not wear me.
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