The Sex Continent: some thoughts on it

da way it woz designed?

nu1 "designed" sl. ll is makin it up as it goez along.

I would hardly call forced culling of private information a win-win. Also as it stands now a lot of nations can't comply even if they wanted to.

Those who think "only the pervs are affected" haven't thought about the domino effect when thousands can't continue shopping as before. They will not be able to access adult land, adult malls/sims, and can't even shop adult on the exchange. Those shops will go out of business - many will. In turn those shop owners will stop shopping also, or paying tier. Or maybe driving adult content out of SL altogether is the goal. Will this new island be large enough for all businesses, or will it be a 'not enough lifeboats on the Titanic' scenario?

But remember that now, getting verified is not limited to the (disastrously borked) Aristotle registration of the old "ID Verification" experiment. (I mean, if there are nations where it's illegal to have a PayPal account, could it possibly be legal to use Second Life there?)

But indeed, "win-win" wasn't about the policy itself, but about a particular response to it: near universal adoption of Adult by former Mature landowners, and it's only "win-win" in comparison to the alternative of relegating Adult to "all pr0n all the time." The latter is the scenario where shops go out of business because too many of their customers aren't motivated enough to get verified. In the former case, everything goes on as before, except for the inconvenience of verification and the disruption of moving.
That's exactly why it's important that Mature landowners make it perfectly clear that they want to move to Adult land. Otherwise they're just playing into the hands of their oppressors, a kind of virtual Stockholm Syndrome.

See, the only way LL's current plan can work is if they're correct that only a tiny percentage of Mature landowners will want to become Adult. And LL *is* correct that only a tiny percentage will be *forced* to do so because of active, ongoing, "all the time" sex, drugs, and/or violence. But a very much larger percentage want the freedom to do Adult things on their own land when and if the situation arises. If all those people say up front that they will move to the Adult continent or retag their land as Adult, it's a message to a much larger number of other residents that they will have to get verified to continue SL as they know it.

With a critical mass of accounts going Adult, and an overwhelming amount of Mainland needing to move, LL will have no choice but to rethink their plans. And that really is "win-win".

I found what I assume to be part of the new adult continent, Ursula, way, way to the east of the rest of the grid. I tried to teleport but it said I access was denied. Is that because it's not open to the public yet (I'm a Premium resident with payment details on file) or because I don't meet the verification requirements in some mysterious way? I'd quite like to look round the place before it fills up with smut!!!

It's been there for a while.

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I predict there won't be enough land for everyone to move. If there is a Adult land shortage then prices will be too high for normal people to move there just because they like the option of doing whatever they want.

Also, note, Adult shops won't have to move because they can still sell stuff on SLX. Only sex clubs with their awful scripting, terrible building, and piles of bots will move. So the whole continent will be impossible to navigate due to extreme lag. No-one will want to live there.

You can only set your draw distance to 512.

Somehow I'm not making myself clear. LL has promised that anyone on the Mainland who has to be moved to the Adult continent will be moved, free of charge. So the onus is on Mature landowners to do whatever it takes to get LL to force them to move. That might end up meaning editing the parcel description, or even rezzing a freebie sex bench in open sight--or it may just mean flagging your own property. (LL will be in a pretty bad spot if residents officially inform them that they need to move and LL doesn't move them; arguably that could make the resident forever immune to any content restriction ARs on the requested parcel.)

But it's totally and simply wrong to assert that the Adult lands will be clubs-only, or that people won't want to live there, or that it will be laggy. This will all be "more true" the fewer Mature landowners get themselves moved initially. But it's a pretty sure bet that Adult land will be higher priced than anything on the current Mainland--Bay City and Nautilus included--once that initial move is over, so landowners who don't get themselves moved will almost certainly lose out.

And almost regardless of the details of the migration, I really think it's just wishful thinking to imagine that, post migration, sub-Adult Mainland prices will find a support level anywhere near even their current depressed value.

That restriction is in Edit/Preferences, but Argent specified Debug Settings, where RenderFarClip can be set much larger than 512m.

Opps, you're right. I never really mess with the debug settings that way. I'd wager that the casual "journalist" or average resident doesn't either.

Elanthius, I intend to set my land with as much sex stuff as I can dig out of inventory and take out a $L50 classified to insure I get to not only have my store, which is completely PG, but my home, which is completely NOT PG, moved for free. I do want to live there, not just have my business there, because there is no need for my business to move, there is only need for my adult activities to move, and I do most of my adult activities at home.

Between "Adult Land" and "Disney Land"... I like the rides in Adult Land way more.

You're all crazy. This "free migration" will never apply to every smart arse that asks for it. Otherwise I'd just take 20 sims worth right now.

I seriously doubt they'll even do much more than tell people to sell their existing land and use the money to buy the new stuff.

I just realized why they are doing this. This way when all the survey people come on here, they can all be pointed to one single place to get people to take part in them... DEVIANT ISLAND

Pie. Your "completely NOT PG" home will not need to move at all. It's been stated that homes with sex content will not need to move. At this point, I can only see one way that what you have right now would cause a compulsory move - if some of your sex stuff is set to show in search but unmodifyable, so that you can't change the setting (at least I don't think you can on unmodifyable objects). That happens when a copy of a display item, that is set to show in search, is bought.

I have to say that I agree with Elan about lag. I can't see how it can avoid it. I envisage all the sex-oriented clubs (poledancing, even if not outright sex) being moved, and they don't usually occupy very much land, so I envisage several per sim, plus other sex-oriented places. My view may turn out to be wrong, but I can only see lag there.

Blondin Linden said that people wouldn't have to pay to move.

I understand that I will not HAVE to move.

I WANT to move.

Because I will never feel comofortable engaging in any sort of adult activity on the Disney Mainland again.

I don't expect 20 sims worth of land, because I don't own that now. But I would expect to be given the same amount of land I have already. That would be fair, wouldn't it?

And I will do whatever it takes to insure that I get moved. So thanks for the tips, Phil

Ha. I think some people who don't really need to go there will manage to squeeze their ways in, and there will be empty land there in no time. That's good for the places that do have to move, vacant neighbors will ease the lag worries. And it will open up some nice bargains on old mature land for people who try to tap the new "softcore" market this is going to create.

Then I wish you every success with the attempt to move there for free and, if successful, I hope you don't regret it.

TBH, I suspect LL is in deep re-think mode about this, and that what will eventually emerge will bear little resemblance to what was in the blog post. If they try to stick with what they said in there, they are *so* screwed.

(Moreover, I'll bet that some Lindens were quite well aware that a lot more than 2-4% of Mainland residents would do whatever it takes to get themselves moved to the Adult continent, but those Lindens kept their mouths shut. If we knew who and why, we'd know a lot about the prevailing politics in the Lab management team.)

You know... even for the people who don't try and cheat by adding a "sex club in a box" to their mainland parcel so they can get a kickass deal on the adult land for free.... there are going to be a whole lot of legitimate establishments that will fall through the cracks and get screwed (probably go out of business). They can't possibly account for everyone.

Guess we should all be prepared for the day we click that landmark to our favorite den of debauchery as we lick our lips in anticipation, deviant thoughts flickering through our minds, only to transport to an empty grassy plain surrounded by freebie shops. In a fit of madness we'll hit "Search", typing in all kinds of naughty words only hunt through pages and pages of irrelevant junk, TPing to random places because we forgot the actual name of the establishment. In the end you will come across a post on a non-SL forum sometime 3 months afterwards that mentioned "Yea... such and such a place closed down awhile back" and you will think "So that was the name of that place... hmm...."

Interesting. Are you thinking that if someone in LL demonstrates too much familiarity with the seamier side of the grid, that their own employment or reputation within LL could be compromised? I could see that happening.

Fwiw, if LL does this as planned, I think there is a business opportunity right now for some enterprising SL developer. First, buy up a bunch of dirt-cheap crap land. Then, contact the owners of moderately successful internet porn sites on the internet, and point out that there is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get in on the ground floor of LL's new XXX rated community. Develop a well-done cookie cutter club/adult store with clever, simple branding, all required vendors, and "intimate" spaces equipped with adult anims. If you're really good, supply a small set of bots to use them at random intervals. Provide sample advertising copy for their own current web site. Work with their finance folks to tie into their income stream, and navigate their free move to Ursula.

One could charge a bundle for this fairly simple service. I wonder if Jumpy's already doing it?

/me wonders what everyone at LL thinks Philips cod piece is for....make him pg?

maybe they use it in staff meetings.

"Ok guys, I want to see this new policy change from the resident's point of view. Hold on a second." *dons codpiece*

"OK. Go ahead, kick me in the nuts."

Nothing says "Serious Business Platform" like a sequined codpiece and a Rocky Horror T-Shirt, that's for sure.



This is the image Philip gave the world for his platform. Five years later LL is still trying to figure out how to erase this image from Second Life.

The codpiece says, "Look at my penis!!", the Rocky Horror shirt replies, "I'm a Sweet Transvestite from Transsexual Transylvaniaaaaaaaaaaa"

That's Second Life. Coz Philip told me so.

That's the issue for anyone who is/will_be in the habit of inviting guests to enjoy some explicit flavour of recreation in their private land.
Presumably the Teen merge can happen as soon as the Adult continent is bedded down and the old mainland continents have been reviewed for non-naughtiness.
People on the Adult continent will be behind some sort of a verification barrier that protects them from minors that don't have the wit to do something as simple as verify some adult details.
People on the old mainland are exposed, so to speak. That exposure could be reduced by allowing them to flag their land as adult and have the same access barriers as would the Adult continent.

Swapping land metre for metre for *any* Mature-landowners one who want to move to adult has two problems.
For LL : They have to keep the old sims running, even if all landowners on a sim swapped to Adult. They can't leave random void holes in the middle of the continents.
For landowners : They might not get land of the same character.