The Sex Continent: some thoughts on it

Well, it does give a way to get away from the remnants of the adcutter era.

The problem I have with the whole moving thing is that this is being done for the sake of corporate and institutional puritanism. Most companies and colleges are not run by puritanical people. The only reason to protect themselves from anything sexual is to protect the almighty BRAND. Humanity bends over for utterly inhuman corporate entities.

You forgot: The purpose of SL is to host corporate meetings, not cater to this pesky "fractious user base" left from another area.

Exactly this. In fact, no need to even be this extreme. Seriously, what is the downside for any mainland owner who now holds mature land asking to be moved to the adult continent. PG buisnesses, ok, they could lose out to verification, but what about private residents? Despite all the assurances from LL that this policy doesn't apply to private homes, I have to wonder how many would prefer not to risk it and ask for land in the new adult region.

I talked to a Linden in world about this (he was at a meeting for something else but took a few questions). He compared the impact of this change on the land market to that of Bay City and Nautilus. Since those didn't "crash" the mainland market, why would this? He said he thought this would be a place that people might want to visit at times, but very few would feel the need to live there.

I thought about starting a thread with a poll about this, but figured there are so many threads on the topic it would just be overkill. Still, I am really wondering how many residents are interested in moving (either business or home) to the new adult regions, even if according to the guidelines they don't have to. Or, how many people would be interested in acquiring SOME adult land for something like their private skybox just to be on the safe side? How are interested are land speculators in acquiring adult land for resale?

Back on topic, I hope that one way or another LL is very specific about things like furniture and animations sales, and which side of the fence they fall on. If they aren't, that will be just one of the many ways this could end up being a farce.

Oh I hope not. Who'd want to buy one that someone else has tried on?

Isn't that how the LL love Machine works?

Impossible to say at this moment, because it all depends on the rules on what is allowed activity on "Mature" mainland parcels. So it really depends on ...
... which would be one more in a sizable row of farces (age verification, homesteads, etc.), so why should it be different now?

Doubt it's for corporate customers. Education, maybe. Those companies interested in 3D collaboration are moving on to 3D toolsets and services designed explicitly for them. Yeah, the experience is impoverished compared to SL, but standard supplementary collab tools such as app sharing , videoconferencing, and scalable moderated voice conferences are more readily available. Plus, most importantly, some use standard browsers as clients and make relatively few demands on client hardware.

E.g. IBM still has a presence in SL, but their own internal 3D net is where they host real meetings. See ... well, LL would prolly not be completely pleased if I were to post a list of 3D business collab sites on their forums, I'm guessin'.

Presumably on the Adult continent.

I now realize that I have no clue what's going to happen.

If we could count on everybody being halfway clued-in to what's happening, everybody with Mature land would move or retag to Adult, and things could just go on as normal, most everyone would verify by PayPal or somehow, people would keep all the privileges they bought with their original land, and everybody would be happy even after the Teenies take over the sub-Adult grid.

But there are a lot of folks who will fall for the ruse that this is no big thing, just the extreme perverts will change ("not me", this isn't part of merging the grids, etc., etc. Then they'll be stuck on Mature land as it fades into Teen-friendly Shinyland and wonder what happened. And by staying away, they'd have the side-effect of indeed making the Adult continent a concentration of laggy pr0n clubs.

The first scenario is a hell of a lot better for everyone concerned, but it requires people to think ahead and actually act in their own best interests even if it happens to benefit everybody else at the same time.

One might think that win-win would succeed. But failure has such inertia.

Potential lag aside sellers of any remotely 'sexual' item would want to be based where their audience is....

At present its 'mature' land but i suspect they/we will cut each others throats to be on the Sexandviolence continent....same as store rents are always higher on the free sex/orgy locations..

Anyone worthy of their tier should now be creating a porn booth on their land just to get a foot in the door if only for the resale value....

BUT

How may it work if a landowner decides they want to return to squeaky clean and go back to mature? Is there a danger once you flag yourself as a perv killer (according to the LL manual) you will not be allowed to reown on mature or PG? Or will you be subject to dawn raids checking the stockroom? Or will we need to keep the swopped adult land for a set length of time to prevent speculation?

can of worms or what?

O, look! Another clueless Linden completely out of touch with his primary customer base. How surprising!

Clue for clueless Linden; Land prices are generally in the toilet and the Mainland market blows. I would have to sell my mainland for about 1/3 what I paid for it less then 2 years ago. But you go right ahead and keep making those fabulous policy changes that you think don't effect your customers.

Me, I'm putting out as much "adult content" as I can find in my inventory and taking out an ad that says SEXSEXSEXSEXSEX so I can go back to a grid like the one I had in 2004.

Resort to personal insults huh, that should help things

I'd like to see the list. Forum PM would work fine.

One of my two great dislikes about being forced to move, that I posted in the first post, is the loss of All search rankings that that it will cause. I find it interesting that nobody has latched onto that as being anything of a big deal. It's all the more interesting that, when asked for "honest solutions" in Honeybear's thread, nobody suggested any way of doing well in the search systems. Nobody suggested how to tap the *biggest* sources of visitors. It's as though the regulars in this forum have written off the search systems as sources of customers.

I just find it interesting.

About the only things the current search system is apparently good for are:
* totally confusing everyone
* making many searches next best thing to Mission Impossible, and
* illustrating the principles of How Not To Implement a Search System.

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And for attrracting a *lot* more visitors than from anywhere else. That's why it surprises me that most people here seem to have written it off as a source of customers. Nobody seems to be bothered that moving will destroy the All search rankings.

Perhaps that is because most of the forum regulars realize that Search has already been destroyed by various other poorly implimented policy changes by Linden Lab that have allowed almost every aspect of any sort of Search function in SL to be gamed to a point past redemption.

Or maybe it's just that people have already lost so much money with LL policy changes that folks have started to expect to lose out somehow everytime the LL lion roars.

Yep because unless massbotters cheating the traffic system verify their 80 or so bots they won't be able to use them on the adult continent

I actually like the All Search. I find that after using it for a while, it's easier to find specific items I'm looking for. I wish it was set up to allow me to TP to the item I want from the search, but seeing the item coordinates is very helpful. It's silly that some merchants don't list their items to show in search, because it's a very simple thing to do and it really hurts them not to do it. Even most vendors you can name with descriptive keywords so people can find you.

It is annoying to see how some people are keyword spamming it with fake items, but you can tell who's doing it and avoid going there if that sort of thing bothers you.

It could be both of those. It just strikes me as being a bit odd that search (the biggest puller of customers) is written off to the extent that nobody suggested any ways of doing well in search in the "honest solutions" thread, and nobody seems to mind what All search rankings they have going south when they move.

It's nothing to do with bots. It's the All search rankiings that will go south, and bots don't affect those. I hadn't even thought of traffic rankings and verifying bots I understand that the move is months away and it's likely that LL will have done something about traffic bots by then.

There's another side to that, that isn't widely known, but it's not as silly as you think. There is a very good reason for it, unfortunately.

My take on what is intended is that anyone who has 'naughty' content on a parcel flagged for inclusion in Search - or has signage that invites entry - will need to move that situation to the Adult Continent or to a PI flagged as Adult.
Naughty stuff behind walls in a non-Search parcel would be OK.
Naughty stuff in a clearly non-public skybox *way* up over a Search parcel should be ok, but would have potential for AR trouble


There are a number of people stressing in the Teens on the Grid thread.
I'd say that anyone who is open to fast-track verbal or poseball promiscuity and feels concerned about the minor thing would be well advised to use the Adult flagging for protection.
Arrange to meet up with a new contact in Adult land to check if they make it past the barrier.
Preferably have their own bought or rented Adult land in Adult so that they have whatever protection from casual guests that might be afforded by LL's verification.


I can understand therefore that people would want residential land in Adult-flagged areas.
If the Adult Mainland market gets launched like Bay City / Nautilus then a lot of people are going to be severely upset at having the speculators screwing them. Estate land should see an upswing in business.

Okay, I'll bite: Why would Search All rankings suffer for any extended period of time? (Isn't the half-life of a Profile Pick only about two weeks anyway?) What am I missing? Care to elaborate, or at least point in a general direction?

My understanding is a little different. Blondin Linden said that stores with sex beds in them wouldn't need to move unless people were having sex in the stores. So it's not the content as such - it's the activities. The KB page also indicated that my store, with it's sex content, would not be required to move. Of course, that statement was a few days ago and the KB page has been removed pending changes, so there's no telling how it will all turn out.

The overall theme is to move places that major in sex and violence, or invite people to do it, but they may need to change that theme to include all the little things, such as fully clothed people testing animations with a view to buying.