The Sex Continent: some thoughts on it

Have LL said anything about losing search rankings? I haven't seen anything. Also, they says that as long as people aren't actually having sex in the shop then you would be ok selling that stuff in a Mature area. Even sex balls may be ok if you insist that people demoing them keep their clothes on (i.e. are looking at the poses and animations rather than actually having pixelsex.

To me, the goal should be to get clarification on those issues, rather than assuming the worst...

Very true, however, we are talking about LL. getting clarification from them is not easy, so assuning the worst becomes the rule.

there has always been a big difference between what LL managment conciers and comunications intent and what the Gteam does with it, case in point is the naturist and nude beaches you mentioned, before the Gteam change it was ok for adult and kid avs to be together on a nude beach where sex is not alowed, after harry linden took over as leader of the gteam it is nolonger alowed for nude beaches to alow both child avs and adult avs on their beach.

This whole thing might actually be sort of fun... can you imagine catching some of our more prominent citizens in flagrante delicto in the SL Red-Light district?

They'd be there with Alts -- just like they do now

Awww that's just no fun.

Well they will be if LL verifty alts associated with an already verified account

Some better zoning options, to let people build the communities they want (as dedicated or as mixed as they want) would be a good solution. The proposed policy just lumps everybody together in two extreme groups, based on criteria the Lindens obviously aren't in agreement over, and, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, are likely to change based on which Linden is on GTeam duty the day somebody decides to AR you for any perceived violation.

Not to my knowledge, but someone asked if existing LMs will be changed to point to the new places and the answer was basically, no. More specifically, it was that it would be a lot of work to do that. From that response, I assume that LL will not do anything to change the existing Picks in people's profiles to point to the new parcels, and that will cause the rankings to be lost. They won't disappear altogether once the new place is indexed, but they will be much lower down the results pages. I'm talking of those that have higher rankings now, of course.

as much as they deny it, I agree with you. PG sims aren't 'safe' if people on them can cam into the Sex Club on the next sim. My opinon is that even tho teens probably would not be allowed on 'mature' sims, they would be able to cam into them pretty easily from PG sims (I had a parcel on a PG sim once that was on the border and a sex club next door). I think that moving more hardcore sex and violence out of cam reach, even if people can cam into mature sims from PG ones, they won't see anything stronger than they could see in TV and movies.

I totally think this is a precursor to bringing the teengrid on.

They may fully intend to leave the teen grid intact, and let it exist for those parents who do not wish their children to go into the wide-open Second Life world (okay, VISUAL and roleplay adult/violent content removed but...yeh...is SL all visual).

I think leaving an option for those parents is a good idea.

But notice that 'not merging the teen grid' does not equal 'not allowing kids in Second Life'. Maybe they mean they won't merge the grids physically.

What I got from the Adult Continent discussion, such as it was, was that horror and combat are considered Mature at the least, and possibly Adult. My two properties deal with horror art (on a PG sim -- oh, silly me for using the MPAA ratings as a guide) and a Mature space-themed Homestead that allows dogfighting (OMG violins! Violins on television! -- yeah old joke). I await deportation, at which point I will likely finally sell at a great loss and go basic. I can't even recommend SL to my closest friends at this point. As to the sex content? While it didn't interest me, I have no problem with encountering it in my explorations. I live on the very edge of a PG sim, as chance would have it, and my neighbor, on her Mature property in the sim next door, sells Gor stuff within easy view of my gallery. *shrugs* I've never had issue with it.

If they try to move my nascent horror art gallery to the adult sim I will have a bit of a laugh...it will tell me LL thinks that art that depicts the scary along the lines of what appeared in "Poltergeist," "Jaws," and "Frankenstein" is now XXX-rated.

Phil - the main theme/advertising point of your store is low-prim, not sex. So I don't see that you would have to move.

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As a last resort if they really do separate the sex stuff, a large store could still operate with a sex annex on the new continent .That wouldn't cause too much headache .People would shop as usual and for the other stuff just pop through a door and instantly tp to the annex.
If the decor was the same they would hardly notice....unless your right about the lag!!!

llTeleportAgent would make a sex annex more practical

Or not, when TPs are playing up...

Matthew

One thing I didn't see mentioned as a problem for those that have to move (might have been but I didn't read every post.

Is the land on the new sex continent going to sell on auction for the kind of prices the themed sims did when they came out? My take on it is probably yes. That will put most of the smaller venues out of business right there. Not to mention they wont be able to sell their existing mainland with the glut that will occur.

Phil what I would do for the furniture you have that has naughty anims use something like MLP. Set the naught anims to seperate menus that the customer can see but cannot use. That lets them see a list of what is included but prevents any possibility of problems with the new rules. My experience selling both PG and Adult furniture is that people do come into the shop and have a grand time usually when the owner is nowhere to be seen. I wouldn't risk it.

At this point, it looks that way, but it's not yet known. Even so, the same loss of rankings and loss of potential customers will apply to many places.

It was stated by a Linden that anyone who has to move won't have to pay for the land. I forget the exact wording but it sounds like a free swap of land and tier won't overlap.

The problem with that is that customers should be able to see what they are paying for before buying it - they want to know that the anims are good for them.

My thinking right now is that I am not going to move - not even a part of the store. If people are not allowed to test the anims, fully clothed, perhaps out of normal view, then I'm not going to bend over backwards to make it possible. I'll close. That's my thinking today.

According to some Linden, supposedly at least the initial migration will be free--one-for-one exchange of parcels on existing Mainland for new parcels on Adultland. (Private sims, of course, have a whole separate decision to make.)

No clarity on which attributes of the existing Mainland will be preserved in the transfer. (One presumes size will be the same, but probably not shape, and who knows about frontage to, roads, etc.)

My current take on it is that especially those in land for the L$s should grab as much of the Adult continent as they can possibly claim initially because I just don't see how they'll be able to mint those sims fast enough to contain the drainage from existing Mainland. The new approach to verification is supposed to be easy (just a PayPal account, and maybe other partners, as well as everybody who's currently or will be PIOF), and a lot of very popular sims (e.g., Xcite!) will have no choice but to require Adults-only.

So, to the point of the OP, I think if you decide to move, you'll be in very good company.

What I really want to know is, what would stop an enterprising land shark from throwing up a handful of tacky XXX clubs/shops on cheap throwaway mainland, getting the free switch to the adult continent, and then reselling the land at a premium to a latecomer after all the switching is over and things settle down?

I don't really see why LL should care: it's all the same tier. What could keep that from being a huge windfall, however, is if LL is able to expand Ursula fast enough to keep up with future demand.

Very good and *laggy* company Also my potential customers would be drastically reduced and my All search rankings would be in the toilet.

I appreciate the information.

Simple truth is that I haven't sold the naughty types of animation in nearly 3 years. But I am working on a PG animation business that is specifically geared towards Gay Men. I am VERY concerned that my 100% PG animation business will be forced to move because it truly does NOT belong in the "Red Sim District".

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As long as you disable the sex menus on the display models (and probably uncheck "Show in search", or replace the wording to make them neutral) you should be just fine where you are.

As for try-before-you-buy: you can keep your main store and simply have a smaller satellite store on the new continent that you link to from your main store where people could try the poses.