FOX News is gonna RUIN SL with this video!
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05-15-2008 13:05
From: Rebecca Proudhon Ugh again....c'mon. Let's bring in the whole Orwellian Nightmare again and start talking about "states right" or "colonial rule," socialism the Magna Carta, and anarchy in the streets.
It's more do governments share data with linden labs for verifications? And what hoops does the company have to jump through to get said data? Plus you wind up forcing legislative morality on countries that may not share those views... or have more stringent rules they would want enforced. Personally I worry more about older people falsifying to get on the teen grid
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05-15-2008 14:03
From: Rebecca Proudhon ......IT WILL TAKE AN ACT OF CONGRESS....to get these tech companies to fix it and still please the majority of people who do not want their privacy invaded in the process. It will take actual ingenuity and the force of laws to get it to happen. .............. You want the parents involved. so do I, but real parental involvement means getting congress to do something about Porn sites and Porn Games, that make it easy for kids to get in and people making money off porn (LL included, Server companies included, GOOGLE included....etc.) $$$business people$$$ who are trying to deny responsibility for all this are full of you know what. In order for the US Congress to prevent American kids from accessing porn over the Net, they would have to pass laws such that 1) Hosting of porn on US based servers will be illegal 2) A USA national firewall will block access from the USA to known porn hosts 3) As the population of those hosts would be dynamically changing, all data flowing into the USA will be filtered for text or graphic content, and the foreign hosts of suspected content added to the national firewall list. Alternatively, the US congress would have to pass laws such that 1) Nobody can access the Net from within the USA unless they pass a biometric test set by the secure authorised terminal from which they are attempting to access the Net. This is to prevent possible access by US kids to porn hosted in other countries. 2) Nobody can access a non-US host unless their biometric test matches a database of verified adults. The damage could be reduced by allowing access to non-US hosts which have been verified as not allowing access to any porn. 3) All USA-hosted porn sites will be obliged to verify the biometric test result against a database of verified adults 4) The database of verified adults can only be created by people creating their biometric signature in the presence of an authorised live person. The second alternative above would be the most effective. Although the development of such systems would be very expensive, much of the costs could be reduced by selling the technology to the Chinese government. Anything else would not prevent a determined US kid from accessing porn. US congress might be able to restrict Net porn hosted within the USA. In order to restrict Net porn hosted outside of the USA, the US would have to either 1) Block access from the USA to internationally-hosted porn sites or 2) Send in the US armed forces to physically destroy those hosts
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05-15-2008 14:45
From: Sling Trebuchet In order for the US Congress to prevent American kids from accessing porn over the Net, they would have to pass laws such that 1) Hosting of porn on US based servers will be illegal
Stop you right there.....no.
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05-15-2008 14:49
From: Rebecca Proudhon Stop you right there.....no. There is no verification system available that would prevent them to get past the system short of outright banning it.
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05-15-2008 14:49
From: MortVent Charron Plus you wind up forcing legislative morality on countries that may not share those views... or have more stringent rules they would want enforced. Yes it's up to governments to make the tech companies fix it. Thus a congressman brings it up and then you attack him saying he is just trying to garner votes along with other things said about him by others. From: someone Personally I worry more about older people falsifying to get on the teen grid either,or.
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05-15-2008 14:53
From: MortVent Charron There is no verification system available that would prevent them to get past the system short of outright banning it. baloney or wait...have a Cheeto. 
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05-15-2008 14:54
From: Rebecca Proudhon Yes it's up to governments to make the tech companies fix it. Thus a congressman brings it up and then you attack him saying he is just trying to garner votes along with other things said about him by others. there is no solution short of LL closing down SL to prevent misuse with anything that isn't orwellian in regards to verification And what happens if LL has to bow down and force extreme views on morality... and all women avatars are banned from the grid unless wearing plain prim outfits that hide all but the eyes? Because there are places where that is the required dress by law for women.
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05-15-2008 14:58
From: Rebecca Proudhon Yes it's up to governments to make the tech companies fix it. Thus a congressman brings it up and then you attack him saying he is just trying to garner votes along with other things said about him by others. Funny, I haven't heard a big outcry from parents to "Do something!!!!!11!!!111111" But I have heard the media and politicians scare mongering and creating monsters to fight in order to give themselves more power and a little free publicity.
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05-15-2008 15:02
From: Rebecca Proudhon baloney or wait...have a Cheeto.
show me a verification system out there that can not be gotten around? Credit card verification, id verifications... there are websites where people can pay a small pay pal donation to access to lists of logins to use and access the restricted sites. Written documentation, who is going to spend the time and money to ship the documentation over seas to use a service? Especially since it would be hard for linden labs to handle the paperwork much less make sure they are all legit documents. A kid could easily download a template, get his two buddies to forge names on it as witnesses. Require notarized copy, too much hassle for entertainment for most people.
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05-15-2008 15:13
hmm, why is it that,m when it was on NBC news, (MSNBC) they promoted the good sides, the educational univertisyes using it, and so did CNN, YET!, fox news protrays it bad
here is why.
fox news is conservative news, the closed minded people who want kids to stick to teletubies when into their teens.
cnn and NBC. liberal news menas thats is more realiable then fox noise or stuff. all i watch fox for is the sports coverge, after that, i flip over, infact other then the sports converge i dont watch much tv at all, probley the onyl TV network i DO watch is SLCN.tv and thats based in SL.
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05-15-2008 15:15
From: Kiboe Munro hmm, why is it that,m when it was on NBC news, (MSNBC) they promoted the good sides, the educational univertisyes using it, and so did CNN, YET!, fox news protrays it bad
here is why.
fox news is conservative news, the closed minded people who want kids to stick to teletubies when into their teens.
cnn and NBC. liberal news menas thats is more realiable then fox noise or stuff. all i watch fox for is the sports coverge, after that, i flip over, infact other then the sports converge i dont watch much tv at all, probley the onyl TV network i DO watch is SLCN.tv and thats based in SL. No, it means CNN and NBC are just unreliable on different subjects.
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Kiboe Munro
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05-15-2008 15:17
personaly, annonymous is already pissed at fox news, i think the /b/ will handle this if they get pissed off enough.
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Kiboe Munro
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05-15-2008 15:21
From: Chris Norse No, it means CNN and NBC are just unreliable on different subjects. well, here is the way i see it letter to the media WE HAVE MEN AND WOMAN INJURED OR DEAD IN IRAQ, I HAD A (boop) FREIND I KNEW ALL MY LIFE DIE OVER THERE, YOU DON'T GIVE TWO (boop), IF KIDS WANT TO GET IN, ITS THE PARENTS FAULT, LL IS TRYING TO RUN THE GRID, NOT ENFORCE POLITICAL CRAP! if this keeps up, people will migrate to there.com. then there.com will be the target, then they will go to the chinese virtual world, they will be the target.. wannA know my sollution?, stop watching fox news, and stop (censord) caring, if you want REAL news, go to coanews or an independant news site, ones with .org behind them.
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Rebecca Proudhon
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05-15-2008 15:42
From: Chris Norse Funny, I haven't heard a big outcry from parents to "Do something!!!!!11!!!111111" But I have heard the media and politicians scare mongering and creating monsters to fight in order to give themselves more power and a little free publicity. Wel then you aren't a congressmen then are you Chris?
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05-15-2008 15:45
From: Rebecca Proudhon Wel then you aren't a congressmen then are you Chris? Are you?
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05-15-2008 15:45
From: Chris Norse No, it means CNN and NBC are just unreliable on different subjects. Not that these outfits are great, or FOX or MSNBC either, but in this case they are reporting news about a congresssmen. it's not these news shows making this up.
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05-15-2008 15:47
From: MortVent Charron Are you? I'm not the one hating this congressman for trying to do his job. Yes parents are pushing them to protect kids from porn.
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05-15-2008 15:49
From: Kiboe Munro well, here is the way i see it
letter to the media WE HAVE MEN AND WOMAN INJURED OR DEAD IN IRAQ, I HAD A (boop) FREIND I KNEW ALL MY LIFE DIE OVER THERE, YOU DON'T GIVE TWO (boop), IF KIDS WANT TO GET IN, ITS THE PARENTS FAULT, LL IS TRYING TO RUN THE GRID, NOT ENFORCE POLITICAL CRAP!
if this keeps up, people will migrate to there.com. then there.com will be the target, then they will go to the chinese virtual world, they will be the target..
wannA know my sollution?, stop watching fox news, and stop (censord) caring, if you want REAL news, go to coanews or an independant news site, ones with .org behind them. I just watch Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert and read "The Onion". It does the job for me.
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05-15-2008 15:59
From: Rebecca Proudhon I'm not the one hating this congressman for trying to do his job. Yes parents are pushing them to protect kids from porn. well I just have to quote you: then shhh! People push responsibility for a lot of things onto others rather than look to see what they can do. It's like the parents trying to get congress to ban violent video games, reading the label and being informed is too much work
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05-15-2008 16:06
From: MortVent Charron well I just have to quote you: then shhh! People push responsibility for a lot of things onto others rather than look to see what they can do. So do something, have some babies and tell them to do as you say not as you do.
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05-15-2008 16:10
From: Rebecca Proudhon Wel then you aren't a congressmen then are you Chris? No, I am way too honest to be in government employment. If the used car lot hadn't gone bankrupt this congressman wouldn't be there either, but he couldn't find honest work so he ran for office.
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05-15-2008 16:11
From: Rebecca Proudhon Not that these outfits are great, or FOX or MSNBC either, but in this case they are reporting news about a congresssmen. it's not these news shows making this up. That is what I said, congressboy decides he wants some face time on the news, so he invents a monster to fight.
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05-15-2008 16:21
From: Rebecca Proudhon So do something, have some babies and tell them to do as you say not as you do. As I said I do not have children in my household at the moment. Why that is I don't go into detail hon. Could be they grew up and moved out, could be I do foster parenting rather than let them sit in an orphanage, could be they died, can be medical reasons, and not going to clarify. If it bothers you so much that someone points out things you can do as a parent to protect your kid... describe why they are wrong instead of hiding behind attacks that don't matter. So what is wrong with parents doing the following: * setting up a child's account on a computer so they can not install software with out the parent knowing what it is * setting up the computer so the child can not go online with out the parent's permission and supervision * installing a filter, or at least setting google and the like to safe search only simple things...
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05-15-2008 16:26
From: Rebecca Proudhon So do something, have some babies and tell them to do as you say not as you do. God, you're a b*tch.
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05-15-2008 16:29
From: MortVent Charron So what is wrong with parents doing the following: * setting up a child's account on a computer so they can not install software with out the parent knowing what it is * setting up the computer so the child can not go online with out the parent's permission and supervision * installing a filter, or at least setting google and the like to safe search only
simple things...
That would require actual parenting, a concept some people either can't seem to grasp, or be bothered with. They'd rather have a government dictate their way of life as opposed to actually taking the time to be responsible by thinking and acting for themselves.
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