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Brenda Connolly
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10-10-2007 07:54
From: Nina Stepford
yeah.
and i can be aggressive. remember? :)

OK...I thought maybe you were going soft on me Hon. We're good.
*That was called having a go. Class dismissed.*
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Raymond Figtree
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10-10-2007 07:55
From: Brenda Connolly
Sarcasm, Nina. This is Me, remember?
*The day I get sensitive to or take anything said here seriously, someone , please shoot me.*
OMG, you want someone to actually SHOOT you? Please PM me ASAP. This is a serious cry for help!
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10-10-2007 07:58
From: Raymond Figtree
OMG, you want someone to actually SHOOT you? Please PM me ASAP. This is a serious cry for help!

No it's not. I haven't given away any shoes yet.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-10-2007 07:58
From: Raymond Figtree
OMG, you want someone to actually SHOOT you? Please PM me ASAP. This is a serious cry for help!

This is becoming more and more like Goodfellas. Or at least that is running in my mind.

"I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?"
...
"I'm kidding with you! You shoot the guy?"
"He's dead."

And yes, this is much less amusing without the curse words.

{edit: and I should, maybe, have linked this with the "talkin' to me" quote}
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10-10-2007 07:58
From: Brenda Connolly
No it's not. I haven't given away any shoes yet.

Aren't they no transfer? :p
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10-10-2007 08:07
From: Oryx Tempel
Aren't they no transfer? :p
The really cute ones are.
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Raymond Figtree
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10-10-2007 08:08
From: Brenda Connolly
No it's not. I haven't given away any shoes yet.
Ohhhh. You were just having a go and taking the piss and yanking my chain and pulling my leg and pulling the wool over my eyes...

you so kinky.
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10-10-2007 08:40
From: Raymond Figtree
Ohhhh. You were just having a go and taking the piss and yanking my chain and pulling my leg and pulling the wool over my eyes...

you so kinky.

Just be glad I wasn't beating around the bush and giving you the business....
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Victorria Paine
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10-10-2007 08:49
From: Nina Stepford
your cat cant climb a tree or a fence and has to be locked indoors.
it has been maimed.


But if you spay, they can't have offspring. If you view declawing as mainming, it's hard not to view forced sterlizization as maiming as well.
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10-10-2007 09:01
From: Victorria Paine
But if you spay, they can't have offspring. If you view declawing as mainming, it's hard not to view forced sterlizization as maiming as well.


They may *technically* both be 'maiming,' but it's the difference between preventing your furniture from being damaged and preventing the birth of a lot of kittens which will probably just end up being killed. Plus, as I mentioned above, female cats that are intact and unbred often develop health issues and most male cats barely notice castration, it's such a minor surgery.
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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Victorria Paine
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10-10-2007 09:03
That's just stating a difference in personal preferences, and nothing more. There is nothing that is "objectively" more "maiming" than the other -- it's in the eye of the cat's owner (or the local busybodies). As I said, I have had both clawed and declawed cats, but I don't see this as a metaphysical issue, to be honest.
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10-10-2007 09:20
From: Victorria Paine
That's just stating a difference in personal preferences, and nothing more. There is nothing that is "objectively" more "maiming" than the other -- it's in the eye of the cat's owner (or the local busybodies). As I said, I have had both clawed and declawed cats, but I don't see this as a metaphysical issue, to be honest.


It's unnecessary in a lot of cases. I'm not saying never declaw, because I'd rather someone did that then give up their pet, but amputating a living creature's toes without giving it some serious thought and exploring other available options is irresponsible. There ARE good reasons for spaying and neutering, and doing so generally either improves the animal's quality of life or leaves it unaffected...intact Toms are more likely to get into dangerous situations and having litter after litter of kittens wears a female out and shortens her life expectancy. Declawing protects material goods and may leave your pet in pain for many, many months. I see a huge difference between the two.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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10-10-2007 09:54
From: Ann Launay
They may *technically* both be 'maiming,' but it's the difference between preventing your furniture from being damaged and preventing the birth of a lot of kittens which will probably just end up being killed. Plus, as I mentioned above, female cats that are intact and unbred often develop health issues and most male cats barely notice castration, it's such a minor surgery.

Hah. one of my males developed some serious problems after he was castrated.
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10-10-2007 10:01
From: Ann Launay
Castration is not a traumatic surgery


I'm not a cat but I would find it extremely traumatic. :D
Raymond Figtree
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10-10-2007 10:09
Looks like we need a Forum Cartel VII since this one is going to the cats...
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10-10-2007 10:13
From: Lexxi Gynoid
Hah. one of my males developed some serious problems after he was castrated.


OK, it's *generally* not a traumatic surgery in and of itself. Sometimes the vet makes an error, or a cat reacts badly to the anesthesia, or develops an infection after the fact. Nothing's ever 100%.

From: Bradley Bracken


I'm not a cat but I would find it extremely traumatic. :D


I meant physically traumatic, not emotionally. :p It's actually quite comparable to a vasectomy, except they remove the bits, instead of leaving them in place and hooked up to a blood supply. Vasectomies are out-patient, local anesthesia procedures the vast majority of the time...very, very minor surgery.

Anyhoo, I'm done. I think declawing is cruel, but occasionally better than the alternative. I just wish people would put some more thought and energy into it before they have it done to their cats. It's NOT a minor procedure and the implications of recovery can be quite long-lasting.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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10-10-2007 10:41
From: Brenda Connolly
No it's not. I haven't given away any shoes yet.

Damn! :mad:

/me takes the rental truck back to U-Haul.
Har Fairweather
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10-10-2007 11:43
Declawing leaves the cat defenceless. I wouldn't get a cat if I had to do that to it.
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10-10-2007 11:47
From: Har Fairweather
Declawing leaves the cat defenceless. I wouldn't get a cat if I had to do that to it.

My grandmother had to go to the hospital when one of the house Birmans chomped down with his teeth. And he wasn't playing.
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10-10-2007 12:21
From: Lexxi Gynoid
My grandmother had to go to the hospital when one of the house Birmans chomped down with his teeth. And he wasn't playing.


If you research declawing, you will find that biting is a symptom of it due to taking away their natural defense system leaving them more vulnerable which can turn them aggressive.
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10-10-2007 12:24
From: Har Fairweather
Declawing leaves the cat defenceless. I wouldn't get a cat if I had to do that to it.

what about goldfish?
Lexxi Gynoid
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10-10-2007 12:36
From: Denise Bonetto
If you research declawing, you will find that biting is a symptom of it due to taking away their natural defense system leaving them more vulnerable which can turn them aggressive.

Actually the kitties in that house, all four of them, still have their claws. I should have noted that originally. I just meant that kitties can also bite, and those bites can be quite effective. They are not completely defenseless as stated.
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10-10-2007 12:46
i thought an hangout was to hang out at, all i hear and see are ghosts :eek:
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10-10-2007 12:50
From: Alicia Sautereau
i thought an hangout was to hang out at, all i hear and see are ghosts :eek:

It is getting close to Halloween. Everyone is just letting their spirits out to play.
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10-10-2007 12:53
From: Alicia Sautereau
i thought an hangout was to hang out at, all i hear and see are ghosts :eek:

There were 5 or 6 of us there hanging out yesterday evening (SLT zone.)

This it for this thread, gang. I'll start Forum Cartel VII. Please DO NOT POST HERE.
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