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Alyx Sands
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09-02-2007 12:09
Once I'm out of RL work tonight, I'm logging in, visiting the cathedral, walking up the center aisle and morphing into my 20m long quadruped dragon form. I would be pleased to be banned from such a place. Please take a pic!  Hey, dragons are SO not furry! _____________________
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Annabelle Babii
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09-02-2007 12:10
Please take a pic! Hey, dragons are SO not furry! Exactly my point. So they have to include scalies, too. Then what? Black avatars? Short avatars? Non-registered-as-white-middle-to-upper-class-catholic avatars? Why am I not surprized that this bigottry comes out of Germany? |
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Alyx Sands
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09-02-2007 12:12
Exactly my point. So they have to include scalies, too. Then what? Black avatars? Short avatars? Non-registered-as-white-middle-to-upper-class-catholic avatars? Why am I not surprized that this bigottry comes out of Germany? Me neither, and I AM German. As I said it's that typical "nothing is allowed here" attitude.... _____________________
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Monalisa Robbiani
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09-02-2007 12:15
I wonder why this is? - Do they consider furries to be disrespectful? Are there clothing / bling restrictions? The sign says: Decent clothing (obvious to me) Respectful behavior (dito) No wings (probably not to pose as an angel) No hats (it's costumary in churches to remove your hat) No weapons (obviously our of place in a church) No furry avatars - WHY? |
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Chas Connolly
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09-02-2007 12:15
I think Colette said it perfectly: everyone here is human - I think - and all avatars are masks of sorts. But why are we not really surprised that even a virtual church begins by excluding certain (human)beings.
Then again the whole sim does want to be a place for Germans, so let the Germans bloody well have it. My apologies to all nice Germans, including the OP  If I were a furry .... |
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Slawkenbergius Slade
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09-02-2007 12:15
Wonder how they feel about Vampires, werewolves, wizards, elves, drow etc.? It does seem a bit odd to single out Furries.
On the other hand, while I can see that for many their AV is more than merely a 'role' - more a complete inworld persona - we all have the choice to simply 'wear' a different AV if circumstances require. Think of it putting on your Sunday best. In the end, it's their land. If you're not prepared to fit in with their wishes on their own land who precisely is being intransigent here? |
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2007 12:20
In the end, it's their land. If you're not prepared to fit in with their wishes on their own land who precisely is being intransigent here? QFT _____________________
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Raynor Hammerer
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09-02-2007 12:23
I just got in there (as my Tiny Rabbit - haven't got a furry) and got me the notecard.
It says that furries are akin to masquerading in real life, whch is regarded as disrespectful for visiting churches. _____________________
Do not meddle in the affairs of linguists, for they are subtle and quick to anger.
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Colette Meiji
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09-02-2007 12:24
QFT Well the land owners are entitled to ban whatever they want. But people are also entitled to complain about it. It only becomes an issue when either the complainers harrass the land owners - Or the complainers expect the Lindens to step in. |
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Colette Meiji
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09-02-2007 12:26
I just got in there (as my Tiny Rabbit - haven't got a furry) and got me the notecard. It says that furries are akin to masquerading in real life, whch is regarded as disrespectful for visiting churches. Hmm dont agree with that reasoning. I doubt many furries consider themselves masquerading. Id be more supportive of logic something like this "This is an attempt to simulate a Real Life church thus we only want Human Avatars here." |
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Raynor Hammerer
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09-02-2007 12:26
It doesn't say headpieces, just basically hats....which is weird too. Al the old ladies I know go to church with a headscarf. Maybe I should try and visit it with my burqa? "Kopfbedeckung" is more than just hats. It includes headscarves. _____________________
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Chas Connolly
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09-02-2007 12:26
QFT Those who hate difference hate life itself - Chas Connolly |
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Ann Launay
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09-02-2007 12:26
I just got in there (as my Tiny Rabbit - haven't got a furry) and got me the notecard. It says that furries are akin to masquerading in real life, whch is regarded as disrespectful for visiting churches. Yeah, but if a person's standard av is furry, then going as human is the real masquerade...they're pretending to be something they're not (in SL). _____________________
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2007 12:27
I have never understood the desire to go someplace where you are not wanted. If I am not welcome someplace, then I don't go there.
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Incanus Merlin
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09-02-2007 12:27
I just got in there (as my Tiny Rabbit - haven't got a furry) and got me the notecard. It says that furries are akin to masquerading in real life, whch is regarded as disrespectful for visiting churches. Boy do they ever need to re-think that for SL....... |
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Chas Connolly
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09-02-2007 12:28
"Kopfbedeckung" is more than just hats. It includes headscarves. Women are SUPPOSED to wear hats in church, especially Catholic churches. Men are not allowed to. Odd that. |
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Alyx Sands
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09-02-2007 12:28
I think Colette said it perfectly: everyone here is human - I think - and all avatars are masks of sorts. But why are we not really surprised that even a virtual church begins by excluding certain (human)beings. Then again the whole sim does want to be a place for Germans, so let the Germans bloody well have it. My apologies to all nice Germans, including the OP If I were a furry .... You can bet if they leave it like that I'll stay out.  As much as I like the RL cathedral. @Raynor: That's what I meant, it's not just any old headpiece like a tiara or something. And your wabbit is pretty furry too... _____________________
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2007 12:29
Those who hate difference hate life itself - Chas Connolly Never said I hated difference. I just support the right of free association (which if it doesn't include the right to not associate is worthless). I also support the right of a property owner to bar access to his property to anyone for any reason. _____________________
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William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL |
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Alyx Sands
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09-02-2007 12:29
Women are SUPPOSED to wear hats in church, especially Catholic churches. Men are not allowed to. Odd that. That's what I thought too- as I said, all the old ladies here especially wear scarves to church. _____________________
~~I'm a linguist. RL sucks, but right now it's decided to be a little less nasty to me - you can still be nice to me if you want! ~~
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Alyx Sands
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09-02-2007 12:30
I have never understood the desire to go someplace where you are not wanted. If I am not welcome someplace, then I don't go there. It's just that this isn't someones private place, it's *supposed* to be publically accessible... _____________________
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Chas Connolly
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09-02-2007 12:33
Never said I hated difference. I just support the right of free association (which if it doesn't include the right to not associate is worthless). I also support the right of a property owner to bar access to his property to anyone for any reason. This is supposed to be a church, supposedly open to all ...... |
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2007 12:33
It's just that this isn't someones private place, it's *supposed* to be publically accessible... Unless it is "owned" by the Lindens, it is still private property. No different then the Goreans mandating certain dress or behavior. _____________________
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Chris Norse
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09-02-2007 12:35
This is supposed to be a church, supposedly open to all ...... Apparently not, since they have posted a list of things which are not welcome, including furries. _____________________
I'm going to pick a fight
William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL |
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Raynor Hammerer
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09-02-2007 12:35
Yeah, but if a person's standard av is furry, then going as human is the real masquerade...they're pretending to be something they're not (in SL). I know. They don't, or can't. Anyway, that's their reasoning. _____________________
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Ann Launay
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09-02-2007 12:37
I know. They don't, or can't. Anyway, that's their reasoning. Schmucks  _____________________
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut. |