My Thanksgiving pet peeve....

*boggles*

I can't believe I'm seeing this. You seem to be arguing about whose proselytizers are more obnoxious, believers or unbelievers ... yes?

Who are you talking to?

Btw I'm not sure where anyone sees a church inside a state capital building, or an altar in a city owned building. Maybe someone can explain to me what some here are so bent out of shape about.

Simple, most folks 'assume' it is ok to have symbols specific to Christianity (and in some cases they add Judaism). The complaint is once you associate, oh, a court with a religion not of the defendant how can you POSSIBLY think that defendant will think they will get a fair and impartial trial?

If it is just 'oh, it is just a joyous feeling with that' how would those same people react to the following:

Us Wiccans wanting to put up a pentacle?

Satanists wanting to put up an upside-down cross?

Moslems wanting to put up a crescent moon and star?

On and on. Also remember that any time a religion can spring up and use any symbol whatsoever.

Does anyone *really* want to start down that slippery slope?

Moslems wanting to put up a crescent moon and star?

as I had just come in and found this thread in order to post this. I wish we could hyperlink but we can't. So I'll title this. "Speaking of religious intolerance."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091129/ap_on_re_eu/eu_switzerland_minaret_ban

As for your point, (I am *guessing* this is your point, so if not, tell me) well if I lived in a country in which those things were reflective of the majority of the population I'd expect it. If the major holiday of the land - one so huge basically every shop every radio station and place were reflecting it, and it was a national holiday and customary work vacation day - (like Christmas if I'm not being clear) were one in which one of those symbols was key, would I have cause to gripe? Not if I chose to live there. That's how I see it, sorry.

As for Satanists - well the upside down cross is NOT an item of worship for them it is SOLELY to mock Christian rituals. So, no. And -10 points for insulting my religion...just to make some schoolbook level for argument sake, point. That is NOT on the same par as a creche, sorry. (The other things you listed, my answer would be, if that reflected the majority population where I resided. Yes.)

You invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, but we'll fight you until our last dying breath if you try to invade us next (we have lots of oil as well)...Bring it!

You originally posted a simple 'bring it' which was at least a bit humorous.

The new post, quoted above, is trolling. (And, by the way, who IS "us," since you've made this xenophobic thread to begin with? At least, give a name to your stance.)

"It is a bad sign when the people of a country stop identifying themselves with the country and start identifying with a group. A racial group. Or a religion. Or a language. Anything, as long as it isn't the whole population.

A very bad sign. Particularism. It was once considered a Spanish vice but any country can fall sick with it."

".....Sick cultures show a complex of symptoms such as you have named...but a dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot.

....This symptom is especially serious in that an individual displaying it never thinks of it as a sign of ill health but as proof of his/her strength. Look for it. Study it. Friday, it is not too late to save this culture--this worldwide culture, not just the freak show here in California."

You originally posted a simple 'bring it' which was at least a bit humorous.

The new post, quoted above, is trolling. (And, by the way, who IS "us," since you've made this xenophobic thread to begin with? At least, give a name to your stance.)

Dear Brenda:


http://www.roflposters.com/AMERICANS-dont-worry-we-outnumber-you-EPICLY/965175/

America sux at everything and Europe still has the most edjucated armies in the world!!!!

How can I answer, when you haven't said *where* first of all.

As for your point, (I am *guessing* this is your point, so if not, tell me) well if I lived in a country in which those things were reflective of the majority of the population I'd expect it. If the major holiday of the land - one so huge basically every shop every radio station and place were reflecting it, and it was a national holiday and customary work vacation day - (like Christmas if I'm not being clear) were one in which one of those symbols was key, would I have cause to gripe? Not if I chose to live there. That's how I see it, sorry.

As for Satanists - well the upside down cross is NOT an item of worship for them it is SOLELY to mock Christian rituals. So, no. And -10 points for insulting my religion...just to make some schoolbook level for argument sake, point. That is NOT on the same par as a creche, sorry. (The other things you listed, my answer would be, if that reflected the majority population where I resided. Yes.)

Perhaps this trend of wishing people a happy Thanksgiving no matter where you are is not such a bad thing at all, but merely people actually exercising basick gentle manners and politeness?

I think it is polite, and manners, to wish the person you are addressing a happy [whatever it is that THEY celebrate] not [whatever it is that YOU celebrate].

Rock

but we don't know where the Count lives or we would be glad to

From his attitude I think he lives in Massechusetts.

could be texas..they have oil and that bring it attitude..

oh wait no scratch that..They would have said Texas in the OP.

Getting wished a "A Happy Thanksgiving" continuously by Americans, even though I don't celebrate it.

I keep my pet peeve fenced in on my deck. So far, it's led to a number of new peeves of different and odd colorations as they continue to multiply like wabitts! Crossing Pink with Colossus Linden I got a rabbit wielding a chainsaw. Not safe at all.

Read the thread. We were talking about somewhere paid for by local tax dollars (like a courthouse). Sorry, did not realize we now have to sum up everything being said before us when we post.

Fine, you do, do not answer that for me, okay? According to the law of the land (the US) I can not stop them from believing in whatever they want, but neither can they use my tax money to support their religion.

Not knowing their beliefs the only symbols I knew of that satanists use are insults to other religions. The main one they use is an upside-down pentagram .... which is just another attempt to be offensive to someone else (Wiccans).