Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

My Thanksgiving pet peeve....

Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
12-03-2009 07:22
Holidays for December 3rd.

International Day for People with a Disability Australia


Dats it. Dec 3rd is a slow day for holidays. ^_^

Rock, where did you get your list from? I checked Earth Calendar, but obviously they are not as complete. Also, didn't see your post first.. :)
sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
12-03-2009 08:30
From: Void Singer
you sick perverts, you don't ruin stuffing with gravy, gravy is for potatoes and meat, the stuffing must be pure an unadulterated (and preferably come out of a box that says Stove Top Savory Herb)... heathens



Ewwwww Stove Top Dressing, now who is the sick pervert. That definitely would need gravy.
_____________________
Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
12-03-2009 09:41
From: sable Valentine
Ewwwww Stove Top Dressing, now who is the sick pervert. That definitely would need gravy.


canned gravy, no doubt. :p
_____________________
It's still My World and My Imagination! So there.
Lindal Kidd
sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
12-03-2009 09:50
From: Lindal Kidd
canned gravy, no doubt. :p


Yes, canned gravy would definitely go with box dressing. I think that is a perfect match that I would not want to personally taste.
_____________________
Allegria Kanto
Trailing clouds of glory
Join date: 28 Nov 2007
Posts: 1,004
12-03-2009 10:14
From: Rock Vacirca
Today is the 3rd of December,

Happy -

* International Day of Disabled Persons
* International Day of the Basque language
* Feast day of St. Francis Xavier in the Roman Catholic calendar of saints
* Advocate's Day in India, in memory of Rajendra Prasad, first President

Rock



And my RL birthday!!! :D
_____________________
Let us pray that we ourselves cease to be the cause of suffering to each other. -- Thich Nhat Hahn
sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
12-03-2009 10:26
From: Allegria Kanto
And my RL birthday!!! :D



Happy Birthday, Allegria!!!
_____________________
Chris Norse
Loud Arrogant Redneck
Join date: 1 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,735
12-03-2009 15:16
I find a day for people with disabilities to be patronizing and insulting.
_____________________
I'm going to pick a fight
William Wallace, Braveheart

“Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind”
Douglas MacArthur

FULL
Esquievel Easterwood
Deer in the headlights
Join date: 25 Oct 2008
Posts: 220
12-03-2009 17:49
Happy Birthday, Allegria!

+1 naked stuffing. It's not dressing because naked dressing is an oxymoron.

+1 peppers and onions in hash browns, only then it's not hash browns, it's potatoes o'brien.

It ain't all gravy, people. (TANSTAAFL for the Heinlein freaks.)
Void Singer
Int vSelf = Sing(void);
Join date: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,973
12-03-2009 18:46
From: sable Valentine
Ewwwww Stove Top Dressing, now who is the sick pervert. That definitely would need gravy.

show me a better tasting stuffing.... I've never seen it, smelled it or tasted it...

most homemade stuff is too mushy, most decent restaurant fare is too coarse, and none of it is ever as well seasoned. (and some of these nuts put giblets in the stuffing... NO! stuffing goes in the meat, not the other way around).

as for other sides, I must admit to preferring canned cranberry sauce (without the bits) over the more traditional stuff. I also don't like turkey gravy at all. thick beef gravy please, or maybe a light sawmill styled gravy.... mmmmmm
_____________________
|
| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected"
| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and
| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion
|
| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks.
| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link...
| -
Esquievel Easterwood
Deer in the headlights
Join date: 25 Oct 2008
Posts: 220
12-03-2009 19:03
You just haven't had my bread stuffing.

Minced onions, celery, and some garlic sauteed in butter. Fresh garden sage, thyme, winter savory. Powdered rosemary, coarsely-ground black pepper. A touch of nutmeg and cloves. Broth, and a bit of semi-dry red wine. Cooked IN the bird (some wackos insist it's unsafe to actually stuff poultry).

Or, if you just don't like bread stuffing, how about my hominy-apple-walnut stuffing for cornish game hens?
Ceka Cianci
SuperPremiumExcaliburAcc#
Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
12-03-2009 23:36
From: Esquievel Easterwood
Cooked IN the bird (some wackos insist it's unsafe to actually stuff poultry).

It's never unsafe with farm fresh poultry..
I'm sure a lot of those wacko's were not adding time they just added to the cooking time for stuffing poultry that has been ran through all the unclean processing plants..
you don't get salmonella from farm fresh poultry..It's from 50 kabillion birds being processed in the same processing line..

Still .it's always a good idea to start cooking both first separate then once they are heated add to the bird..

it helps with not drying the bird out as much..
i always wait till the bird starts to spill a little then sit my stuffing in a pan next to the bird for about 20 minutes depending on the temperature..then when it's hot spoon it into the bird..
Stuffing is only going to absorb so much of the taste of the bird..adding it at the right time can make or break a great stuffing from an avg stuffing..
some like to add later in the cook time .Myself i think it adds best when it starts to spill..
thats my preference though ;)

if you end up with a dry bird it's all going to come down to how good the gravy tasted that day lol :D
_____________________
Void Singer
Int vSelf = Sing(void);
Join date: 24 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,973
12-04-2009 00:36
From: Esquievel Easterwood
You just haven't had my bread stuffing.

Minced onions, celery, and some garlic sauteed in butter. Fresh garden sage, thyme, winter savory. Powdered rosemary, coarsely-ground black pepper. A touch of nutmeg and cloves. Broth, and a bit of semi-dry red wine. Cooked IN the bird (some wackos insist it's unsafe to actually stuff poultry).

Or, if you just don't like bread stuffing, how about my hominy-apple-walnut stuffing for cornish game hens?

you had me willing to try it... right up till you mentioned hominy, walnuts, and stuffing in the same sentence....
_____________________
|
| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected"
| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and
| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion
|
| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks.
| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link...
| -
sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
12-04-2009 06:54
From: Kira Cuddihy
Yummm, but please leave out the onions and green peppers for me please. A nice substitute would be crumpled bacon, shredded cheese and a dollop of avacado on the top.


I never thought about the bacon and avacado, sounds interesting. Probably salsa would go with that too. I also add cheese to mine.

From: Esquievel Easterwood
+1 peppers and onions in hash browns, only then it's not hash browns, it's potatoes o'brien.


I do realize it is called potatoes o'brien. But as a I child growing up when my grandmother fixed it, she never referrred it to as that. She just fixed it that way. It was when I became an adult and say a frozen bag of potatoes labeled potatoes o'brien.

From: Esquievel Easterwood
You just haven't had my bread stuffing.

Minced onions, celery, and some garlic sauteed in butter. Fresh garden sage, thyme, winter savory. Powdered rosemary, coarsely-ground black pepper. A touch of nutmeg and cloves. Broth, and a bit of semi-dry red wine. Cooked IN the bird (some wackos insist it's unsafe to actually stuff poultry).

Or, if you just don't like bread stuffing, how about my hominy-apple-walnut stuffing for cornish game hens?


For the most part, I use the same ingredients with the exception of the nutmeg and cloves. That sounds interesting. My great aunt would had a can of oysters to hers. I'm not a big oyster (too boogery looking) fan to needless to say I rarely ate her stuffing. Since she is no longer able to cook Thanksgiving dinner and that has passed on to me, every year she is after me to add that can of oysters and every year I say no. But I did make a small one just for her this year.

I don't know about the hominy as I don't care for it. It just looks nasty to me. But I would be willing to try it the way you fix it as I do like cornish game hens.
_____________________
Treasure Ballinger
Virtual Ability
Join date: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 2,745
12-04-2009 07:05
Hominy = giant corn. I don't like it either, another weird veggie that my mom loved to make when I was growing up. (I also have the can of oysters that turn up in stuffing occasionally in my family, usually the older aunts will make it like that.) Thanksgiving cooking hasn't actually fallen to me, my family gathers at my brother in law's and all bring a pre-decided dish so we already know who is making what. We rotate houses for the holidays all year long. He always has Thanksgiving. I have soul food day, which is the Saturday after Christmas, this year the actual day after Christmas. We switch yearly, one year will be pig feet, chitlins, blackeyes, candied yams, greens and all that stuff, (except we do chicken too for my one sis in law who doesn't eat pork, the heathen, something wrong with her) and then the alternate year we do gumbo. This year is gumbo and I'll have them all at my house. It's a seafood gumbo with crab, shrimp, hot links, chicken, clams, and is so thick can stand up the spoon in the middle of it. My husband makes the roux for it which I am going to have to watch more carefully, learn his secrets. We don't add veggies to it, which I know many do with gumbo, it's not really a 'creole' gumbo but more a seafood gumbo. NO OKRA. Use a restaurant size pot for it because there are so many of us. For my no pork eating sis in law, do a smaller pot with no hot links.
Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 8,839
12-04-2009 07:11
From: Esquievel Easterwood
+1 naked stuffing. It's not dressing because naked dressing is an oxymoron.
I beg to disagree, have you never heard a voice shouting at you when you open a cupboard?

Pep (It's the vinaigrette saying: "Close that door: I'm dressing!";)
_____________________
Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
12-04-2009 07:25
From: Treasure Ballinger
Hominy = giant corn. I don't like it either, another weird veggie that my mom loved to make when I was growing up. (I also have the can of oysters that turn up in stuffing occasionally in my family, usually the older aunts will make it like that.) Thanksgiving cooking hasn't actually fallen to me, my family gathers at my brother in law's and all bring a pre-decided dish so we already know who is making what. We rotate houses for the holidays all year long. He always has Thanksgiving. I have soul food day, which is the Saturday after Christmas, this year the actual day after Christmas. We switch yearly, one year will be pig feet, chitlins, blackeyes, candied yams, greens and all that stuff, (except we do chicken too for my one sis in law who doesn't eat pork, the heathen, something wrong with her) and then the alternate year we do gumbo. This year is gumbo and I'll have them all at my house. It's a seafood gumbo with crab, shrimp, hot links, chicken, clams, and is so thick can stand up the spoon in the middle of it. My husband makes the roux for it which I am going to have to watch more carefully, learn his secrets. We don't add veggies to it, which I know many do with gumbo, it's not really a 'creole' gumbo but more a seafood gumbo. NO OKRA. Use a restaurant size pot for it because there are so many of us. For my no pork eating sis in law, do a smaller pot with no hot links.


Dang... Treasure, I should've told Will for our rl trip we should come out to San Diego, specifically to your house. With roux I believe the key is stirring. Much like gravy to make sure you have smooth consistentcy and no lumps.
_____________________
Rock Vacirca
riches to rags
Join date: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,093
12-04-2009 08:05
From: Kokoro Fasching
Holidays for December 3rd.

International Day for People with a Disability Australia


Dats it. Dec 3rd is a slow day for holidays. ^_^

Rock, where did you get your list from? I checked Earth Calendar, but obviously they are not as complete. Also, didn't see your post first.. :)


Hi Kokoro,
from Wikipedia. Just type the following into Google: '3 December wiki' without the quotes. Do this for any date. They normally give the notable events that have occured in history (for this date), notable Births and notable Deaths (for this date), then the Holidays and Observances for this date are at the end.

I don't plan to do this for every date, but I might make a monthly post.

Rock
Bagushii Kohime
Even your sig is about me
Join date: 6 May 2007
Posts: 44
12-04-2009 08:59
I don't think the OP was objecting to the well wishes in themselves. I think they have more of a feeling that Americans are too America-centric and this just triggered it. That said, I've met people who are nationalistic and even ignorant about all other countries from many nationalities, but I guess in general smaller countries with smaller populations are less affected by this, while large countries with massive populations who are used to having all content localized in their own language, have a long history as at least local superpowers etc. are more suspectible to this.

But for all human beings, it does take some effort to arrive at the realization that they, themselves, are not at the centre of the universe. Perhaps it's best to concentrate on improving oneself in this regard and acting as a good example of embracing diversity, rather than trying to put others down, even if they are being a bit x-centric (pun not intended, or..?).
Treasure Ballinger
Virtual Ability
Join date: 31 Dec 2007
Posts: 2,745
12-04-2009 09:15
From: Bagushii Kohime
I don't think the OP was objecting to the well wishes in themselves. I think they have more of a feeling that Americans are too America-centric and this just triggered it. That said, I've met people who are nationalistic and even ignorant about all other countries from many nationalities, but I guess in general smaller countries with smaller populations are less affected by this, while large countries with massive populations who are used to having all content localized in their own language, have a long history as at least local superpowers etc. are more suspectible to this.

But for all human beings, it does take some effort to arrive at the realization that they, themselves, are not at the centre of the universe. Perhaps it's best to concentrate on improving oneself in this regard and acting as a good example of embracing diversity, rather than trying to put others down, even if they are being a bit x-centric (pun not intended, or..?).


Especially when the well-wisher meant no harm or disrespect, by issuing the salutation, was not religiously disrespectful, I see it more as saying, hey, I am having a special day today. I hope you have a great day, too!
sable Valentine
AU United
Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,275
12-04-2009 09:18
Well on the flip side, I am wished whatever holiday it is from my friends from other countries. Rather be put off by it, I seize that opportunity to learn something about that holiday/culture. Either by asking and/or googling it.

I am an American and yes I do the very same thing that OP complains about. My non-American friends laugh and say well we aren't celebrating that kind of holiday now, but thanks. My muslim and atheist friends even tolerates me (especially at Easter) and the general response from them now Sable you know I don't share the same belief, but thank you for thinking of me.

To me and me only, just them thinking enough of me to send well wishes is very nice. I can see where it is an annoyance for some but that is my opinion and OP is well within his rights as well.
_____________________
Esquievel Easterwood
Deer in the headlights
Join date: 25 Oct 2008
Posts: 220
12-04-2009 16:26
From: sable Valentine
I do realize it is called potatoes o'brien. But as a I child growing up when my grandmother fixed it, she never referrred it to as that. She just fixed it that way. It was when I became an adult and say a frozen bag of potatoes labeled potatoes o'brien.
Actually, in my family if the potatoes are grated and lumped together when fried, that's hash browns. If they're diced and separate, that's "home fries". Whatever it's called, it's all good. And having good cooks and good eating memories in a family--it doesn't get much better than that. :)
From: sable Valentine
I don't know about the hominy as I don't care for it. It just looks nasty to me. But I would be willing to try it the way you fix it as I do like cornish game hens.
Hominy is starchy. It's bleached kinda puffed corn, but it tastes and feels more like potatoes, with just a slightly sharp flavor. The apple hominy walnut stuffing also has a bit of onion and garlic, sauteed before stuffing.
Esquievel Easterwood
Deer in the headlights
Join date: 25 Oct 2008
Posts: 220
12-04-2009 16:28
From: Treasure Ballinger
It's a seafood gumbo with crab, shrimp, hot links, chicken, clams, and is so thick can stand up the spoon in the middle of it. My husband makes the roux for it which I am going to have to watch more carefully, learn his secrets. We don't add veggies to it, which I know many do with gumbo, it's not really a 'creole' gumbo but more a seafood gumbo. NO OKRA. Use a restaurant size pot for it because there are so many of us. For my no pork eating sis in law, do a smaller pot with no hot links.
Can I come? That sounds just perfect! Well..there could be just a little okra. It's good in soups and stews; I wouldn't eat the slimy stuff plain. And can we have red beans and rice, please?
Esquievel Easterwood
Deer in the headlights
Join date: 25 Oct 2008
Posts: 220
12-04-2009 16:29
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I beg to disagree, have you never heard a voice shouting at you when you open a cupboard?

Pep (It's the vinaigrette saying: "Close that door: I'm dressing!";)
Not since I let Prince Albert out of the can after I caught my refrigerator running.
Melita Magic
On my own terms.
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
Posts: 2,253
12-05-2009 22:34
From: Bagushii Kohime
But for all human beings, it does take some effort to arrive at the realization that they, themselves, are not at the centre of the universe.


Yes it's clear he's allergic to Americans in general, and that particular greeting blew his stack.

But do you (and he) (and others) hear the implied insult above? Do you also know what it's like to continually hear what is wrong with America, with Americans, when it's often said by people who've never even been to America themselves?

Xenophobia and misanthropy know no borders.
Ceka Cianci
SuperPremiumExcaliburAcc#
Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
12-06-2009 01:09
From: Esquievel Easterwood
Can I come? That sounds just perfect! Well..there could be just a little okra. It's good in soups and stews; I wouldn't eat the slimy stuff plain. And can we have red beans and rice, please?

where i live hominy is turned into grits..
i think it could also be malt-o-meal too but i'm not sure..

A friend of mine put it in a way that explains grits pretty well..he is one of those naturally funny people that just have you laughing all the time no matter what they are talking about..he could have you listening to him talk about dirt's existence and make it interesting and hilarious hehehehe

he said..i just don't understand the grits..he said i can add jelly or sausage or butter or anything you can think of and it doesn't do a dam thing to change a grit into something i just go out of my way for..he says..butter and grits just taste like i am having butter and grits not buttered grits or jelly and grits not jellyed grits or sausage and grits not grits that taste like sausage..
so i just don't like the damn things cause they won't soak up and add to the meal..they just sit there all independant and adding this ball of weight to my gut..
i can actually feel them in my gut teaming back up at the bottom feeling like i ate a cannon ball or something..
hehehe

this was the explanation i had gotten from him when i asked him if he would like some grits with that..lol
_____________________
1 ... 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13