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Pserendipity Daniels
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03-02-2009 03:14
From: Ephraim Kappler
You really ought to stop reading Stephen King, Tundra.
At least Stephen King knows the correct use of its and it's . . .

Pep (or his sub-editor does, anyway :p )
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Pserendipity Daniels
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03-02-2009 03:29
From: Jig Chippewa
I will ask one question which maybe someone can answer - I never got what I thought was a decent answer even in a real situation when I was stalked. So maybe someone here can suggest a good reason. Here it is; what is the pleasure in the stalking? Coz it is a form of stalking even when you post a thread humiliating someone or just jumping on them each time they post. But where's teh jollies? Is it in humiliation? Or is it something else?
Ignore just makes things worse I think.
If you are talking about me then you should think again. I don't stalk any individual. I address posts not posters, and respond to behaviours I believe waste the time of and are insulting to the participants of the forums, such as deliberately misspelling words and being too lazy to spell check others, so that comments and what might be arguments are incoherent. It isn't just me either, as various threads have noted that this sort of thing is a combination of attention whoring and intransigent insolence. Don't even start to think that you personally are being singled out; if you check my posting history you will find that I criticise any number of posts because the force of the views are being diluted by being expressed badly - and to return to the point of this thread, it tends to get them ignored, either formally or informally, until the behaviour is revised, unless the posters refuse to, with the obvious consequences.

Pep (Notes that it wasn't me that instigated a sequence of unwanted, inconsequential and intrusive polls)
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03-02-2009 03:41
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We have two seasons in Alaska-Winter & Mosquito ... I'm starting to get all itchy just thinking about it.

Mozzies are the bane of my life so you have my deepest sympathies. I don't know which is worse: the little zinggggggg by my ear just as I'm about to fall asleep at night; the hot itch that wakes me up a half hour later or the knowledge that sated fleck on the wall has bloated itself on my blood.

From: Pserendipity Daniels
I don't stalk any individual. I address posts not posters, and respond to behaviours I believe waste the time of and are insulting to the participants of the forums, such as deliberately misspelling words and being too lazy to spell check others, so that comments and what might be arguments are incoherent ...

No amount of smarmy dissembling will excuse being a nuisance on the grounds of editing/criticising other posters' handling of language. Grammar and spell checks are entirely a matter of personal preference, Pep. Now please stop it.
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03-02-2009 04:05
From: Ephraim Kappler
No amount of smarmy dissembling will excuse being a nuisance on the grounds of editing/criticising other posters' handling of language. Grammar and spell checks are entirely a matter of personal preference, Pep. Now please stop it.
Congratulations Ephraim! This is a perfect example of an inaccurate and effectively content free argument with absolutely no justification whatsoever, other than a personal opinion which you are perfectly entitled to hold and express, although you have no right to expect anybody else to agree with it.

Pep (You are apparently learning from Jig's style)

PS Stop it? Your sense of humour is obviously developing!
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03-02-2009 04:38
Pep, statements such as ...
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I ... respond to behaviours I believe waste the time of and are insulting to the participants of the forums, such as deliberately misspelling words and being too lazy to spell check others, so that comments and what might be arguments are incoherent ... if you check my posting history you will find that I criticise any number of posts because the force of the views are being diluted by being expressed badly

... constitute the ramblings of a judgemental pedant who has been accorded no privilege to speak or act on behalf of anyone else.

If you are seriously concerned about the function of the forums then try contributing an opinion as opposed to carping at other posters simply because their style or the lack of it grates on you.

I would be hard pressed to find a thread on this or any other forum that isn't riddled with typos, misspellings, poor grammar and punctuation: it is feature of internet communications that only a stubbornly affected individual such as yourself would refuse to accept. Even if I were to accept the excuse that you are a self-appointed arbiter of writing style, I do not see you assiduously posting corrections all over the forum.

However, I do see you making a point of harassing Jig.
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03-02-2009 04:57
For me, the forum ignore feature is only to keep me from replying to those that I am likely to flame. If I don't see it, as written, then I am less likely to respond. I don't mind the quotes, because I can always blithely ignore the quote.

I do check a person's post at least once a month, to see if maybe they've either settled down or if they're still going to be on the ignore.

So, the ignore feature isn't a service for ME. It's a service for the rest of the forum. :p
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03-02-2009 06:24
From: Ephraim Kappler
accorded no privilege to speak or act on behalf of anyone else.
I need no privilege to speak nor act. The forums permit, nay encourage, the expression of views.

From: Ephraim Kappler
If you are seriously concerned about the function of the forums then try contributing an opinion as opposed to carping at other posters simply because their style or the lack of it grates on you.
Now you seem to be doing what you accuse me of, suggesting that I change they way that I post. You can't have your cake and eat it you know! Make your mind up. And of course you are expressing an ad hominem view on *me* rather than people that behave as I do, or their posts, which is expressly forbidden by the ToS/Guidelines.

From: Ephraim Kappler
I would be hard pressed to find a thread on this or any other forum that isn't riddled with typos, misspellings, poor grammar and punctuation: it is feature of internet communications that only a stubbornly affected individual such as yourself would refuse to accept.
It is an appalling state of affairs that I do acknowledge, which I simply wish to point out in conjunction with my view that if you can't express an opinion accurately, the strength of that opinion diminishes.

From: Ephraim Kappler
Even if I were to accept the excuse that you are a self-appointed arbiter of writing style, I do not see you assiduously posting corrections all over the forum.
Where then did I get this erroneous reputation for pedantry that you claim I have? Just by "stalking" one dismal representative of the type? Perhaps you should do more research. In partuicular you may wish to review how many posters tend to edit their comments (your own for example! LMAO) when they are responding to mine, which suggests I *do* have a beneficial impact.

From: Ephraim Kappler
However, I do see you making a point of harassing Jig.
I deny this charge absolutely. If I appear to do so then it is because she exemplifies the emptiness of argument in a coherent vaccuum, and persists, even rejoices in her posts being illegible - a point of view which is not uniquely mine by any means. If I see something warranting feedback, I usually respond, if I have the time.

Pep (Perhaps you think there should be a literacy test for the forums - and only those that fail it should be allowed to post?)
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03-02-2009 06:30
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I ...

Yeah.

Right.

Whatever.
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03-02-2009 06:32
From: Ephraim Kappler
Yeah.

Right.

Whatever.
Excellent! That is what my 10 year old daughter says when she has no argument.

Pep (My son, with a sense of humour, says "Poohead";)
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03-02-2009 06:58
From: Jig Chippewa
Well its liek someone walking past you as you say "Good morning" and they ignore you. Personally I just think its kinda rude. Maybe that person has something vital that mght be missed. Ya' never know.

Leaving forums or sl is a tricky one because you can leave without anything personal happening. People just get tired of same old same old. Or circumstances in real change. But it's not as easy to leave as may be thought. I just suggested a gradual withdrawal makes sense. I think the person above was suggesting it as a change of air, a rethink as it were.

My point about teh being followed was that suppose you ignore Poster One. Well, people who reply to Poster One might be involved in that argument. So you still get teh argument but you get a kinda weird watered-down odd one-sided conversation. It doesnt really solve much.

Maybe we should all just chill. Let people be what and who they are. Just say "It's cool". It works wonders in my real life - and surely in yours too. So lets all try it here.



you are assuming way too much here Jig

I have not disclosed who I am ignoring or why, nor will I.

your statements make it seem as though my ignoring someone is because I feel I am being attacked, or stalked and need to chill.

this is not the case at all. It is nothing personal, it is just something I am not wanting to see, nothing more.

As for letting people be who they are, sure, I am ok with them, however that doesn't mean I have to see that person being who they are.

your comment about the good morning thing, put my situation in reverse, because in that case I would be the one being ignored, and if someone chooses to ignore me, that is ok with me :)
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03-02-2009 07:00
From: TundraFire Nightfire
I've never had a problem with anyone here, and I only test drove the Ignore feature to see how it worked. I don't recall ever reading a post by Rhaorth that I noticed he was having trouble with another poster. My experience comes from my RL blog and those of my friends where people will show up and won't stop posting. Ban works good in a case like that, but the irritating poster will follow you wherever you go and post something nasty every time you post. And I mean every time. It's not about adding something constructive to a conversation. It's all about pissing off the target poster.


hi tundra, um...

I am a she (it's ok, happens all the time)

:)
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03-02-2009 07:05
From: Ephraim Kappler
Mozzies are the bane of my life so you have my deepest sympathies. I don't know which is worse: the little zinggggggg by my ear just as I'm about to fall asleep at night; the hot itch that wakes me up a half hour later or the knowledge that sated fleck on the wall has bloated itself on my blood.


No amount of smarmy dissembling will excuse being a nuisance on the grounds of editing/criticising other posters' handling of language. Grammar and spell checks are entirely a matter of personal preference, Pep. Now please stop it.



oh god I hate mozzies (I like that word LOL)
and yes, I think the worst is that annoying buzz by the ear GRRRR

thankfully where I live now, we do not get a lot of them (whew)



As for pep, I agree, just stop it pep, it does look like you single out specific people. A lot of us have told Jig it makes it hard to read her text, yet she continues to type the way she does, I consider it a slap in the face, however I move along. I can not force her to change her ways, nor can she force me to read her chat, I read it when I want to.

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03-02-2009 07:09
Pep, if you insist on correcting the grammar of posters throughout the forums, then why have you not attacked my posts?

I butcher the English language on a daily basis, with run on sentences, fragments, misuse of capitalization, typos, and the lack or overuse of punctuation. However I do not see you correcting mine.

:)
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03-02-2009 07:20
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As for pep, I agree, just stop it pep, it does look like you single out specific people. A lot of us have told Jig it makes it hard to read her text, yet she continues to type the way she does, I consider it a slap in the face, however I move along. I can not force her to change her ways, nor can she force me to read her chat, I read it when I want to.

:)


I certainly dont intend to slap you in face. In fact far from it. I type as I do coz I type as I do, but its not done to harm or solicite anything from others. I dont think I have ever commented on the typing of others (except yesterday as a joke) coz it just doesnt bother me. I read so much in my reality (as we all do) that making comment would be too much like being a teacher (and I am def. NOT one of those!) Funnily enough, I am literature crazy and read much. I just "follow a fool's flag" as teh Spanish say. And THAT proverb has a density of meanings.

Peopel I work with dont really make a constancy of issues over writing. My handwriting is teh same - yet I collect fountain pens - teh old-fashioned ink pens. I own 45 of them; Montblancs, Pelikans, Namiki-Pilots, Watermans etc etc. Just me. Everyone knows its me.

No, never done to harm or slap a face. If I have ever made anyone feel that way then I am deeply sorry. And that I am truly of my word.
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03-02-2009 07:21
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Originally Posted by Pserendipity Daniels
I don't stalk any individual. I address posts not posters, and respond to behaviours I believe waste the time of and are insulting to the participants of the forums, such as deliberately misspelling words and being too lazy to spell check others, so that comments and what might be arguments are incoherent ...


Pep, you are quite free to speak here and rail against anyone's postings , just as free as they are to make them. You can be indignant over their spelling, grammar, and whatever else you may feel is insulting and a waste of your time, but please don't believe you are speaking for anyone but yourself. We are all capable of voicing those same opinions if we so desire. You may carry on.
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03-02-2009 07:25
I just find it amusing when grammar/spelling/content trolls make more errors in their own posts than they correct in others.

It is definitely a case of leading by example! :D
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03-02-2009 07:25
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Pep, if you insist on correcting the grammar of posters throughout the forums, then why have you not attacked my posts?

I butcher the English language on a daily basis, with run on sentences, fragments, misuse of capitalization, typos, and the lack or overuse of punctuation. However I do not see you correcting mine.

:)


Teh poster selects. Teh poster can only flourish among what teh poster considers allies. The rejection of one person can only work if the poster feels others have rejected also. Otherwise teh whole thing would backfire. That's simple to see. Its worked in my case since my plan to leave forum and withdraw from sl is being applied. This place doesnt "work" for me anymore.
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03-02-2009 07:26
be yourself. you owe no one an explanation.

we all have something which we are remembered by. do you want it to be that you were the king of perfect spellers who is a complete a-hole, a narcissistic drama queen who makes every conversation about herself and then sheds responsibility, or a typo queen with a creative imagination and a passion to learn. or, you can be an intolerant bulldozer like me. :p
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03-02-2009 07:27
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I just find it amusing when grammar/spelling/content trolls make more errors in their own posts than they correct in others.

It is definitely a case of leading by example! :D

it's comedy gold. :D
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03-02-2009 07:29
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or, you can be an intolerant bulldozer like me. :p

Marry me. I could knock up a Gerard Butler lookee-likee av in a flash.

What am I saying? I look twenty times better than Mr Butler as I am!
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03-02-2009 07:31
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Marry me. I could knock up a Gerard Butler lookee-likee av in a flash.

What am I saying? I look twenty times better than Mr Butler as I am!

i don't get married, but i certainly would appreciate the GB clone for eye candy. bring it! :D

and you could not possibly be better looking than he, as he is perfect in every way... more perfect than Mary Poppins.
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03-02-2009 07:34
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I certainly dont intend to slap you in face. In fact far from it. I type as I do coz I type as I do, but its not done to harm or solicite anything from others. I dont think I have ever commented on the typing of others (except yesterday as a joke) coz it just doesnt bother me. I read so much in my reality (as we all do) that making comment would be too much like being a teacher (and I am def. NOT one of those!) Funnily enough, I am literature crazy and read much. I just "follow a fool's flag" as teh Spanish say. And THAT proverb has a density of meanings.

Peopel I work with dont really make a constancy of issues over writing. My handwriting is teh same - yet I collect fountain pens - teh old-fashioned ink pens. I own 45 of them; Montblancs, Pelikans, Namiki-Pilots, Watermans etc etc. Just me. Everyone knows its me.

No, never done to harm or slap a face. If I have ever made anyone feel that way then I am deeply sorry. And that I am truly of my word.



Then, why after so many folks have explained to you, that reading your way of purposeful typos makes it very difficult and uncomfortable to read, why do you insist on continuing to do the obviously on purpose typos?
(and don't tell me that typing things like teh is not on purpose, cuz if it wasn't then you would be typoing anything that had a th come together.
Also if it was due to clumsy fingers it would not only be select words.

The reason it feels like a slap in the face, is because you choose to do it, knowing it makes others uncomfortable (and not just one or two, but a lot of folks have kindly pointed it out to you).

so if you continue to do so, that is your choice, but it is just as rude as your thinking putting someone on ignore is rude.
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03-02-2009 07:34
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i don't get married, but i certainly would appreciate the GB clone for eye candy. bring it! :D

Fair enough. I'm not the marrying kind myself. But I'll see what I can do about the optical confectionery.
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03-02-2009 07:36
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Teh poster selects. Teh poster can only flourish among what teh poster considers allies. The rejection of one person can only work if the poster feels others have rejected also. Otherwise teh whole thing would backfire. That's simple to see. Its worked in my case since my plan to leave forum and withdraw from sl is being applied. This place doesnt "work" for me anymore.



OMG *falls over*

JIG you typed THE correctly!! See you CAN do it, just let your fingers do what they want and stop making teh on purpose :)

(seriously though, that is my only pet peeve about your text, that you purposefully type teh, knowing that it not only annoys some people, but that it makes reading very difficult.)

Opps I hit enter too quick

as for this place not working for you anymore, don't let it be because some people or a specific person makes it that way, let it be because you really are tired of this place.

I almost let someone drive me away from here, but I decided why... why let the actions of another dictate what I do, so I stayed, and am glad I have, as I have made more friends from here recently than I have since I started posting on the forums (which was shortly after starting SL)

besides, you do have a lot of interesting topics, I just have to learn to get past the obvious typos :) (hmm maybe I could run your post through a spellchecker before reading it LOL)
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03-02-2009 07:36
From: Talarus Luan
I just find it amusing when grammar/spelling/content trolls make more errors in their own posts than they correct in others.

It is definitely a case of leading by example! :D
I would entirely agree, if it should happen.

Pep ("make more errors in their own posts than they correct in others" - an almost impossible task, I would have said)
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