When putting people on ignore..
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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02-28-2009 16:16
Hi, I have a question about the ignore feature here in the forums.
As of late, I have felt the need to place someone on ignore, for my own piece of mind, however when this person is quoted in another post, sadly I end up seeing it.
Is there a way to cause the ignore to also ignore the quoted text?
(or am I just deemed to see their text when it is quoted, and skim past it quickly when I notice it is their text?)
Thanks.
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Damien1 Thorne
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02-28-2009 16:23
You will still see the quoted material.
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Ciaran Laval
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02-28-2009 16:27
Rha just take a deep breath and move on when you see that.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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02-28-2009 16:32
I did find a Greasemonkey script that claimed to hide the ignored person's posts and threads completely, instead of having a message about them being ignored, and remove their quoted passages, but....
it takes a more current version of vBulletin. Who'd a thunk it?
I did not actually try it out to verify that it would fail but I suspect the author said what he said for a reason.
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02-28-2009 19:03
I find it helps tremendously to take a "forum breather" when you start taking things personally. Just walk away for two weeks - maybe more - until you find you can come back and not care. It is imperative to break the habit for long enough that you cease to feel "at home" on the forum. When it is no longer your "home" it will matter less that some idiots are leaving beverage rings on the furniture and dropping snacks onto the carpets. Just don't be lame and announce to the world that you are "taking a break." 
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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02-28-2009 19:20
From: Isablan Neva I find it helps tremendously to take a "forum breather" when you start taking things personally. Just walk away for two weeks - maybe more - until you find you can come back and not care. It is imperative to break the habit for long enough that you cease to feel "at home" on the forum. When it is no longer your "home" it will matter less that some idiots are leaving beverage rings on the furniture and dropping snacks onto the carpets. Just don't be lame and announce to the world that you are "taking a break."  ah, you assume too much, I am not taking anything personally, just tired of seeing the same ol crap from the same ol person  as for it feeling like home, nah, also nothing to do with how some people treat the forums just, as I said, it should be easier to use the tools at hand, than to see the same crap coming forth. and nope, if I do leave, I won't announce it to anyone, I will just leave. (I made the mistake of venting that I felt like leaving, it was received with mixed reactions, so instead of subjecting myself to that again, IF I ever leave, (which face it, someday I will) I will just simply... walk away. oh I would love to have the script that hides the "so so and posted but you can not see it because you have them on ignore" thing LOL yep, I think best advice is the take a deep breath and move on (which is what I am doing) just was hoping there was a way (other than not visit the forums) that would assist in not having to see this person's text. *shrug* ty for the input folks, appreciate it.
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02-28-2009 21:39
If you take a break from posting on the forums, you'll be missed. I think you add something here.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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02-28-2009 22:27
From: TundraFire Nightfire If you take a break from posting on the forums, you'll be missed. I think you add something here. aww thanks I think everyone adds something to the forums.
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Jig Chippewa
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03-01-2009 05:45
I have never used ignore but dont think its a nice thing to do - its a bit like flouncing off. Anyway although it means you dont see poster everyone else does and if THAT poster is being followed and razzed constantly then situation simply jumps from one thread to another. One person suggested leaving forums for a week or two or for good. But that is like being forced to get off a bus coz you're wearing shades and no one else is. However, that is teh process I am doing in slow and methodical way (taht works for me getting off any habit)
It's a public forum to an extent, so I think everyone has right to be heard. This place shouldnt be so serious in a real life as to cause disturbance. Best way to ignore I think is to do it quietly and not announce it to all and sundry. Saying you doing it is passing judgement and liek "I did it, so follow me gang!"
Then its called "being sent to Coventry" in UK and is cruellest thing schoolkids can do to a kid who doesnt fit in with rest of group. A whole class or a school ignoring some kid is stooping low indeed.
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03-01-2009 06:49
From: Jig Chippewa I have never used ignore but dont think its a nice thing to do - its a bit like flouncing off. Anyway although it means you dont see poster everyone else does and if THAT poster is being followed and razzed constantly then situation simply jumps from one thread to another. One person suggested leaving forums for a week or two or for good. But that is like being forced to get off a bus coz you're wearing shades and no one else is. However, that is teh process I am doing in slow and methodical way (taht works for me getting off any habit)
It's a public forum to an extent, so I think everyone has right to be heard. This place shouldnt be so serious in a real life as to cause disturbance. Best way to ignore I think is to do it quietly and not announce it to all and sundry. Saying you doing it is passing judgement and liek "I did it, so follow me gang!"
Then its called "being sent to Coventry" in UK and is cruellest thing schoolkids can do to a kid who doesnt fit in with rest of group. A whole class or a school ignoring some kid is stooping low indeed. Coventry isn't so bad these days, it's recovered quite substantially since being carpet-bombed during the war.
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03-01-2009 06:52
From: Rudolph Ormsby Coventry isn't so bad these days, it's recovered quite substantially since being carpet-bombed during the war. I have been there. Larkin was from there. Cathedral is lovely but very sad. But as to what I meant - You know wha I mean. Its an old phrase for a vicious practise.
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03-01-2009 08:38
From: Isablan Neva When it is no longer your "home" it will matter less that some idiots are leaving beverage rings on the furniture and dropping snacks onto the carpets. Ephraim Kappler roars laughing. Having crushed out a fair number of cigarettes in the half-empty beer cans of a few threads in my time, I must say that's the best description of 'forum life' I've read yet.
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Rudolph Ormsby
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03-01-2009 10:07
From: Jig Chippewa I have been there. Larkin was from there. Cathedral is lovely but very sad.
But as to what I meant - You know wha I mean. Its an old phrase for a vicious practise. Ah yes, Larkin - he was a genius! "...deepens like a coastal shelf..." - amazing imagery: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7nO6_daoGg(Disclaimer: The link above contains language that may be offensive to some readers).
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-01-2009 10:28
From: Jig Chippewa I have never used ignore but dont think its a nice thing to do - its a bit like flouncing off. Anyway although it means you dont see poster everyone else does and if THAT poster is being followed and razzed constantly then situation simply jumps from one thread to another. One person suggested leaving forums for a week or two or for good. But that is like being forced to get off a bus coz you're wearing shades and no one else is. However, that is teh process I am doing in slow and methodical way (taht works for me getting off any habit)
It's a public forum to an extent, so I think everyone has right to be heard. This place shouldnt be so serious in a real life as to cause disturbance. Best way to ignore I think is to do it quietly and not announce it to all and sundry. Saying you doing it is passing judgement and liek "I did it, so follow me gang!"
Then its called "being sent to Coventry" in UK and is cruellest thing schoolkids can do to a kid who doesnt fit in with rest of group. A whole class or a school ignoring some kid is stooping low indeed. most of your post was lost on me, however I am not sure why you think that putting someone on ignore is not nice... and "flouncing off" Should one tolerate certain types of behavior, even if they do not wish to see specific things? I do not think any of us have the "right" to be heard as that implies that those listening have no rights as to what they hear, that the listener (reader) has to listen whether they want to or not. It is my right to use ignore on anyone I wish to not hear. Not sure what others following someone around and harassing them has to do with me ignoring them. I am sure plenty of people use ignore for many different reasons. the suggestion of leaving the forums would make sense if I were taking something personal, but that is not the case, I just do not wish to see something specific, and that is all.
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03-01-2009 13:09
There is that occasional poster that parasitically attaches and you can't shake it loose. It follows you everywhere, sucking out your juices, dining on your innards and every time you post on a thread, it rears it's ugly blood sucking proboscis and starts draining away, posing, posting, posting everytime you do.
Ignore has flaws. I've noticed what you have, too, Rhaorth. The posts still appear quoted in someone else's reply. There's only one person who has ever annoyed me on this forum, and they haven't posted in a very long time.
And to my English friends, we do have an equivalent to "being sent to Coventry". It's Alaska.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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03-01-2009 13:17
From: TundraFire Nightfire There is that occasional poster that parasitically attaches and you can't shake it loose. It follows you everywhere, sucking out your juices, dining on your innards and every time you post on a thread, it rears it's ugly blood sucking proboscis and starts draining away, posing, posting, posting everytime you do.
Ignore has flaws. I've noticed what you have, too, Rhaorth. The posts still appear quoted in someone else's reply. There's only one person who has ever annoyed me on this forum, and they haven't posted in a very long time.
And to my English friends, we do have an equivalent to "being sent to Coventry". It's Alaska. yep, sadly it happens (the parasitically attaching poster I mean) and yes, I dislike the quoting shows from ignored parties, but I suppose it can't be helped one just has to learn to skip past it when one sees that (I just was not sure if I was missing some kind of setting)
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Talarus Luan
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03-01-2009 13:32
I've never felt the need to put anyone on "ignore". If I don't want to read what someone says, I just don't read it. Period. It works infinitely better than any technological "ignore" mechanism.
The only time I have a need to use a technological ignore mechanism is in the case of text/voice chat, since it has the potential to simply be too much noise for me to hear the signal. In that case, I squelch the noise.
Forums, however, I have direct control over the SNR, so it isn't necessary to squelch anything. I see posts I am not interested in reading, and skip over them automatically without reading the content.
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Jig Chippewa
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03-01-2009 13:35
From: Rhaorth Antonelli most of your post was lost on me, however I am not sure why you think that putting someone on ignore is not nice... and "flouncing off"
Should one tolerate certain types of behavior, even if they do not wish to see specific things?
I do not think any of us have the "right" to be heard as that implies that those listening have no rights as to what they hear, that the listener (reader) has to listen whether they want to or not. It is my right to use ignore on anyone I wish to not hear.
Not sure what others following someone around and harassing them has to do with me ignoring them.
I am sure plenty of people use ignore for many different reasons.
the suggestion of leaving the forums would make sense if I were taking something personal, but that is not the case, I just do not wish to see something specific, and that is all. Well its liek someone walking past you as you say "Good morning" and they ignore you. Personally I just think its kinda rude. Maybe that person has something vital that mght be missed. Ya' never know. Leaving forums or sl is a tricky one because you can leave without anything personal happening. People just get tired of same old same old. Or circumstances in real change. But it's not as easy to leave as may be thought. I just suggested a gradual withdrawal makes sense. I think the person above was suggesting it as a change of air, a rethink as it were. My point about teh being followed was that suppose you ignore Poster One. Well, people who reply to Poster One might be involved in that argument. So you still get teh argument but you get a kinda weird watered-down odd one-sided conversation. It doesnt really solve much. Maybe we should all just chill. Let people be what and who they are. Just say "It's cool". It works wonders in my real life - and surely in yours too. So lets all try it here.
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03-01-2009 21:26
From: Jig Chippewa Maybe we should all just chill. Let people be what and who they are. Just say "It's cool". It works wonders in my real life - and surely in yours too. So lets all try it here. I've never had a problem with anyone here, and I only test drove the Ignore feature to see how it worked. I don't recall ever reading a post by Rhaorth that I noticed he was having trouble with another poster. My experience comes from my RL blog and those of my friends where people will show up and won't stop posting. Ban works good in a case like that, but the irritating poster will follow you wherever you go and post something nasty every time you post. And I mean every time. It's not about adding something constructive to a conversation. It's all about pissing off the target poster.
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03-01-2009 21:37
From: TundraFire Nightfire I've never had a problem with anyone here, and I only test drove the Ignore feature to see how it worked. I don't recall ever reading a post by Rhaorth that I noticed he was having trouble with another poster. My experience comes from my RL blog and those of my friends where people will show up and won't stop posting. Ban works good in a case like that, but the irritating poster will follow you wherever you go and post something nasty every time you post. And I mean every time. It's not about adding something constructive to a conversation. It's all about pissing off the target poster. I will ask one question which maybe someone can answer - I never got what I thought was a decent answer even in a real situation when I was stalked. So maybe someone here can suggest a good reason. Here it is; what is the pleasure in the stalking? Coz it is a form of stalking even when you post a thread humiliating someone or just jumping on them each time they post. But where's teh jollies? Is it in humiliation? Or is it something else? Ignore just makes things worse I think.
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03-01-2009 21:58
From: Jig Chippewa I will ask one question which maybe someone can answer... Ignore just makes things worse I think. Back in the '90s, I had a RL stalker so I can speak from my own experience. This was a mentally disturbed neighbor that I had spoken to maybe three times, all briefly, but he developed an obsession with me that lasted for years. What I understand is that even if you don't want to have a relationship with the stalker, when you are stalked, that is a type of relationship. The weirder and more dangerous the stalker's behavior becomes, the more they develop in their mind a link between you and them. This becomes their relationship with you, and they will do anything to keep that relationship going and to add to it. Every time you react to their increasingly bizarre behavior, it adds more fuel to the fire. They love or hate you even more. The advice I was given at the time, and what is still given today, is to ignore any attempt at contact, verbally or physically. In RL, you need to take other precautions, but for SL, I'd say Ignore...Ban...Mute...Eject works pretty good. There are stalkers and then there are people who only want to irritate you for laughs. I just want to make that point because I've had problems with both, and they're two different things.
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03-01-2009 22:54
From: TundraFire Nightfire There are stalkers and then there are people who only want to irritate you for laughs. I just want to make that point because I've had problems with both, and they're two different things. QFT Dan the non-stalker Man
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03-01-2009 23:55
From: TundraFire Nightfire There is that occasional poster that parasitically attaches and you can't shake it loose. It follows you everywhere, sucking out your juices, dining on your innards and every time you post on a thread, it rears it's ugly blood sucking proboscis and starts draining away, posing, posting, posting everytime you do. You really ought to stop reading Stephen King, Tundra.
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03-02-2009 01:30
From: Rudolph Ormsby Coventry isn't so bad these days, it's recovered quite substantially since being carpet-bombed during the war. You think? 
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03-02-2009 02:31
From: Ephraim Kappler You really ought to stop reading Stephen King, Tundra. We have two seasons in Alaska-Winter & Mosquito. Winter's almost over and that means... Couldn't help the cheesy description. I'm starting to get all itchy just thinking about it.
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