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Viciously Llewellyn
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05-22-2009 06:56
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Because if you are wasting your time on activism when you could be chasing men, you are not smart enough.

Pep (It's self-referentially conclusive.)


I can imagine the confusion it must cause you, when the supposedly limited number of smart women, seem to be kicking the crap out of the boys in the educational systems of most Western Democracies. :rolleyes:
Pserendipity Daniels
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05-22-2009 07:03
From: Viciously Llewellyn
I can imagine the confusion it must cause you, when the supposedly limited number of smart women, seem to be kicking the crap out of the boys in the educational systems of most Western Democracies. :rolleyes:

Evidence please?

Pep (And please don't quote exam results; they merely reflect an ability to focus on passing exams, rather than using your smarts to enjoy life)

PS But please feel free to reference the number of females in CEO, CFO, CSO or CTO positions.
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Viciously Llewellyn
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05-22-2009 07:18
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Evidence please?

Pep (And please don't quote exam results; they merely reflect an ability to focus on passing exams, rather than using your smarts to enjoy life)

PS But please feel free to reference the number of females in CEO, CFO, CSO or CTO positions.


Do your own research ... I don't collect a paycheck from you. If you doubt it, then disprove it.

Just to be helpful ... Exams and class ranking are indeed the measure of the educational system, which was my claim. A CEO, CFO, CSO or CTO is not part of that system, and no claim was made that women are kicking anyone's butt in those areas. Given the current level of gain, it will be another twenty years before women reach a level playing field in those areas. Projecting that far out is really only guesswork.

Perhaps you should read things a little more carefully. :D
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05-22-2009 08:07
From: Viciously Llewellyn
Do your own research ... I don't collect a paycheck from you. If you doubt it, then disprove it.

Just to be helpful ... Exams and class ranking are indeed the measure of the educational system, which was my claim. A CEO, CFO, CSO or CTO is not part of that system, and no claim was made that women are kicking anyone's butt in those areas. Given the current level of gain, it will be another twenty years before women reach a level playing field in those areas. Projecting that far out is really only guesswork.

Perhaps you should read things a little more carefully. :D
I wish I could run forwards as fast as you can backtrack! You won't prove it because you *can't* prove it. Which tends to reduce any argument you base on that premise to a heap of dusty rubble. :p

And *YOU* should be the one reading things more carefully. Since when does "smart" equate to the ability to sit inside on a sunny day reading Pride and Prejudice rather than learning about teamwork playing soccer in the park with your mates; or watching endless reruns of "I Love Lucy" for a Media Studies project as opposed to discovering exotic cuisines after the bar is closed? That's the main reason some females appear to do better in some examinations. Thank you, but as I have said, I'll stick with the smart birds who manage to game the system *now* :cool: rather than whinge about glass ceilings and think they are doing great in the promotion stakes until the biological timeclock kicks in and their careers get shot to pieces.

Pep (You are proving my point. ;) )
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Viciously Llewellyn
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05-22-2009 08:39
From: Pserendipity Daniels
I wish I could run forwards as fast as you can backtrack! You won't prove it because you *can't* prove it. Which tends to reduce any argument you base on that premise to a heap of dusty rubble. :p

And *YOU* should be the one reading things more carefully. Since when does "smart" equate to the ability to sit inside on a sunny day reading Pride and Prejudice rather than learning about teamwork playing soccer in the park with your mates; or watching endless reruns of "I Love Lucy" for a Media Studies project as opposed to discovering exotic cuisines after the bar is closed? That's the main reason some females appear to do better in some examinations. Thank you, but as I have said, I'll stick with the smart birds who manage to game the system *now* :cool: rather than whinge about glass ceilings and think they are doing great in the promotion stakes until the biological timeclock kicks in and their careers get shot to pieces.

Pep (You are proving my point. ;) )


I'm not backtracking. My original point was related to educational systems. You are the one that brought executive scales into the mix. The only backtracking I'm doing, is limiting commentary to a point that was actually made by me.

No worries though ... I'm just rattling your cage anyway. I've been in the hosptial all week, it's 85 degrees out, and I want to go to the beach.
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05-22-2009 08:46
From: Viciously Llewellyn
I'm not backtracking. My original point was related to educational systems. You are the one that brought executive scales into the mix. The only backtracking I'm doing, is limiting commentary to a point that was actually made by me.

No worries though ... I'm just rattling your cage anyway. I've been in the hosptial all week, it's 85 degrees out, and I want to go to the beach.
Check what you said. It isn't the smart women who are getting better exam results than the guys.

Pep (It's the dumb ones)
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05-22-2009 09:33
From: Pserendipity Daniels
Check what you said. It isn't the smart women who are getting better exam results than the guys.

Pep (It's the dumb ones)


It's an easy case for a man to make, as you will never have to live life as a woman.

I myself choose to sacrifice a little fun in order to ensure that I don't end up waiting tables in my 40's, or married to some self-important blowhard.

But, I'm dumb that way ...
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05-22-2009 09:49
From: Viciously Llewellyn
It's an easy case for a man to make, as you will never have to live life as a woman.

I myself choose to sacrifice a little fun in order to ensure that I don't end up waiting tables in my 40's, or married to some self-important blowhard.

But, I'm dumb that way ...

And you think sacrificing a little fun is likely to reduce your risk of either of those occurring. :D

Pep (Pleased to have to shave every day)

PS Must have been a very short stroll.
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05-22-2009 10:03
From: Viciously Llewellyn
I'm not backtracking. My original point was related to educational systems. You are the one that brought executive scales into the mix. The only backtracking I'm doing, is limiting commentary to a point that was actually made by me.


Actually, your original point related intelligence to good performance in the educational system.

While I'm sure there are a lot of very intelligent women, I don't think the western educational system is very good indicator of intelligence. In fact, the western educational system is "crap" in many ways.

I think the point Pep is making is that intelligence is demonstrated in many other areas of life (perhaps better than the educational system).
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05-22-2009 10:06
What was the topic here again? Remind me...?
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05-22-2009 10:08
/me looks around for someone I know *frowns*


Hi gang...it's lunchtime!

Hope everyone's doing well!
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05-22-2009 10:11
From: Vance Adder
Actually, your original point related intelligence to good performance in the educational system.

While I'm sure there are a lot of very intelligent women, I don't think the western educational system is very good indicator of intelligence. In fact, the western educational system is "crap" in many ways.

I think the point Pep is making is that intelligence is demonstrated in many other areas of life (perhaps better than the educational system).
Thank you Vance. I am a little concerned that perhaps you don't realise that agreeing with me ;) and even worse, being right :cool: means you will be accused of being one of my alts! :eek:

Pep (Really smart women are nodding their heads while reading this and of course, won't post their own agreement! :D )
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05-22-2009 10:13
From: Monalisa Robbiani
What was the topic here again? Remind me...?

There was no real topic.

Pep (It was mainly an excuse for vain people to post pictures of themselves)
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05-22-2009 10:20
From: Pserendipity Daniels
There was no real topic.

Pep (It was mainly an excuse for vain people to post pictures of themselves)


You mean, post pictures of their avatars. Of themselves - *that* would be really interesting.
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05-22-2009 10:23
From: Monalisa Robbiani
You mean, post pictures of their avatars. Of themselves - *that* would be really interesting.

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05-22-2009 10:26
From: Monalisa Robbiani
You mean, post pictures of their avatars. Of themselves - *that* would be really interesting.

I was, of course, speaking of the forum persona.

Pep (Their rl counterparts are almost certainly the opposite of vain!)
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05-22-2009 10:44
From: Pserendipity Daniels
And you think sacrificing a little fun is likely to reduce your risk of either of those occurring. :D


USA + GPA = HIGH PAY
Viciously Llewellyn
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05-22-2009 10:52
From: Vance Adder
Actually, your original point related intelligence to good performance in the educational system.

While I'm sure there are a lot of very intelligent women, I don't think the western educational system is very good indicator of intelligence. In fact, the western educational system is "crap" in many ways.

I think the point Pep is making is that intelligence is demonstrated in many other areas of life (perhaps better than the educational system).


I original point related no such thing. It said:

"I can imagine the confusion it must cause you, when the supposedly limited number of smart women, seem to be kicking the crap out of the boys in the educational systems of most Western Democracies."

The only "point" was baiting Pep. I'm bored ... I apologize. ;)

I'm also 5'9" in Second Life, just to avoid being too far off topic.
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05-22-2009 11:08
From: Carlos Cameron
Your arms look too big for your body.


Not from this woman's point of view.
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05-22-2009 11:14
From: Oryx Tempel
LOL. I'm sure she meant "African" countries.


/me hangs head in shame

I was referring to two cultures within America ("countries" was a mistyping of what I was thinking - if "culture" is not the correct word, someone please correct me as it was definitely not my intention to be offensive...or confusing...lol) in which I have personal friends that have told me that, in general, the men prefer larger women than the average Caucasian male. These were Hispanic and African-American friends.

(Hope that clears that up *smiles*)
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05-22-2009 11:15
From: Viciously Llewellyn
I original point related no such thing. It said:

"I can imagine the confusion it must cause you, when the supposedly limited number of smart women, seem to be kicking the crap out of the boys in the educational systems of most Western Democracies."

The only "point" was baiting Pep. I'm bored ... I apologize. ;)

I'm also 5'9" in Second Life, just to avoid being too far off topic.

Since you seem unable to read your own post I will point out again that it isn't the ***smart*** women who are outperforming the boys within the educational systems.

Pep (Perhaps the aberrant comma in your quote confused you. :rolleyes: Don't they include punctuation competence in GPA?)

PS 8 foot 6 inches in rl so I am not sure what the point of this thread is. :p
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05-22-2009 11:24
From: Monalisa Robbiani
What was the topic here again? Remind me...?


LOL...I was just thinking of adding a post to ask Rha if she realized where her OP would go in this thread. :)

Except for my culture/countries gaffe, I'm enjoying the thread and the viewpoints.
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05-22-2009 11:25
Education != intelligence. I haz a GED and an epic paying engineering job. I often find myself running circles around the credentialed engineers here in project completion and quality. I wouldn't exchange that for the world. =^-^=
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Viciously Llewellyn
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05-22-2009 11:37
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Education != intelligence. I haz a GED and an epic paying engineering job. I often find myself running circles around the credentialed engineers here in project completion and quality. I wouldn't exchange that for the world. =^-^=


I totally agree. Education does not equal intelligence, (and I never said it did ... there are just some people that said I did ;) ) and neither is the sole factor in determining pay scale.

However, it's hard to argue with USA + GPA = HIGH PAY. I just graduated from one of the better schools in the South. I received a lot of job offers, and the company I have been working for the past few years doubled my pay to keep me ... and I'm still just as dumb as I was before I got the diploma.
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05-22-2009 11:44
Pep, have you met Alexander Harbrough? I think you two would really hit it off.
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