SL cracking down on crime?
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Chris Norse
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03-26-2008 06:58
From: Cherry Czervik Perhaps they are just bored with the reaction they get Chris. I know I am very bored with the reaction I got.
Perhaps they have other things happening in their lives which have made them realise how petty and insular one Forum is.
ALSO ... I'd say why don't you ask them directly instead of asking me. I know what they've said to me. Are you thinking perhaps that I am referring to myself? You should know better than that, one would hope.
Perhaps the very fact that the reaction to my post about what I've had said to me being chickenshit might well just underline and emphasise the reasons why people don't want to post here, n'est pas?
***edit*** Of course Kismet is an alt. You don't think I've gone so far as to look that up do you? Why would I bother ... perhaps my posts are a bit confusing given they have some tongue in cheek Englishness to them which is sometimes not immediately apparent, for which I give suitable apology. Well you didn't mention names, so I can't very well ask them directly can I? If you care about something enough that you would make comments about it to someone else, I would think you would stand up and try to change what you dislike about it. I don't know, I guess that is just me.
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 07:01
From: Chris Norse Well you didn't mention names, so I can't very well ask them directly can I?
If you care about something enough that you would make comments about it to someone else, I would think you would stand up and try to change what you dislike about it. I don't know, I guess that is just me. As I have said many many times on this subject, some people dislike the idea of "making a fuss". ***edit*** Phone rang, forgot to say this. Of course you can't ask them. Of course I am not going to name names. The reason that you can't ask them is that they are not underestimating the power of the lurk. Some people posting should definitely lurk moar ... This is so chicken and egg, rather than chicken shit. All I know is this. The sun is shining through the office window onto my keyboard, the lights are dancing from the face of my watch and the sapphire and diamonds on my finger. The skies are blue ... this is the energy I love to work with in first and second life. Being mired in squabbles seems very far from my experience right now ...
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Claire Silverspar
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03-26-2008 07:28
From: Rioko Bamaisin Personally, I don't understand that line of thinking. It's a forum,there will always be different personalities and people who get along better than others...If you don't like a board,fine don't post there but don't expect everyone to change just because of you. (You being in general,not actually you Claire.  ) I know rioko lol.  They weren't saying it as a 'i don't like the way the forum is any more, you all have to behave now so that I can come back' sort of way. It was more that I had mentioned that I had missed seeing them around and they said they were getting a bit fed up and taking a break. Nothing accusatory(spelling?) just mentioning that they weren't as comfortable. Which is why i didn't agree with the scared of coming forward thing. Me? I couldn't care less lol. I prefer the old forums - well, couple of months lol - because I was comfortable, but I see it as evolving, I still feel comfortable here and though there is some stuff that gets my back up, I have chosen to ignore it and move on if I can. There is always going to be something that someone doesn't like somewhere.
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 07:50
From: Claire Silverspar I know rioko lol.  They weren't saying it as a 'i don't like the way the forum is any more, you all have to behave now so that I can come back' sort of way. It was more that I had mentioned that I had missed seeing them around and they said they were getting a bit fed up and taking a break. Nothing accusatory(spelling?) just mentioning that they weren't as comfortable. Which is why i didn't agree with the scared of coming forward thing. Me? I couldn't care less lol. I prefer the old forums - well, couple of months lol - because I was comfortable, but I see it as evolving, I still feel comfortable here and though there is some stuff that gets my back up, I have chosen to ignore it and move on if I can. There is always going to be something that someone doesn't like somewhere. That's cos you feel comfortable honey. As do I, agreed with or not!
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Colette Meiji
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03-26-2008 07:59
From: Kismet Karuna Also, I reread the thread, paying special attention to the first couple of pages, and Colette, I'm am going to have to withdraw my statement where I said that the first couple pages were tame. The OP was called several names in the first two pages, and told that she was being mocked intentionally, among other things.
It definitely wasn't tame. Merely at that point it was individuals attacking someone who they saw as a griefer- rather than cliqueicide. Any "clique-y" stuff came later. Least thats the way it looked to me.
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Colette Meiji
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03-26-2008 08:02
From: Qie Niangao Hmmm. Actually, for me, the banking ban was totally unexpected, but there were all kinds of hints that adfarming was soon to be addressed. (Astute listeners at Linden office hours even knew that the first step would be a "policy" rather than "technical" solution, counter to Philip's statement to the press around the beginning of the year--which was itself an early warning of sorts.) I tried to relay some of that in this forum, warning folks not to spend L$s on adfarm parcels because the Lindens would be taking action. (Admittedly, those warnings got lots of responses in denial: "Won't ever happen...", "Adfarmers pay so much tier...", "I spoke with my Linden and he assured me...", etc. Probably everybody thought I was just blowing smoke.) But "I told ya so" is unseemly. And one really didn't have to see the Linden writing on the wall to know adfarming wasn't a long-term business:
RL enterprises have to anticipate change or die; one tool for that is to model the "value chain" to assess if a business is well-positioned for survival. To succeed, a business must add value or reduce cost; adfarms destroy value and increase costs. That would be "Fail." Ahh interesting. Well the ad farm solution we got came as a total surprise to me, and we were discussing ad-farms just the day before. While the banking thing seemed to be begging for a ban ever since Ginko converted to GPBs and WSE claimed they wuz robbed.
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Marianne McCann
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03-26-2008 08:21
From: Qie Niangao Hmmm. Actually, for me, the banking ban was totally unexpected, but there were all kinds of hints that adfarming was soon to be addressed. (Astute listeners at Linden office hours even knew that the first step would be a "policy" rather than "technical" solution, counter to Philip's statement to the press around the beginning of the year--which was itself an early warning of sorts.) I tried to relay some of that in this forum, warning folks not to spend L$s on adfarm parcels because the Lindens would be taking action. (Admittedly, those warnings got lots of responses in denial: "Won't ever happen...", "Adfarmers pay so much tier...", "I spoke with my Linden and he assured me...", etc. Probably everybody thought I was just blowing smoke.) But "I told ya so" is unseemly. And one really didn't have to see the Linden writing on the wall to know adfarming wasn't a long-term business I also had a suspicion they would not be around much longer. The noise about them was getting a bit too loud, an like you, I was hearin' the rumbles at office hours an stuff. I suspect the next one'll be someting on traffic bots. Mari
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 08:26
TBH most things are actually announced or hinted at or grapevined. Sometimes people simply don't want to believe the writing on the wall or they are hanging on to milk every bit of enjoyment that they can from what they enjoy about SL.
Which actually brings us on topic to the title of this thread!!! GASP. The measures taken recently do actually have some bearing in curtailing liability if someone using SL is using it for properly nefarious reasons.
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Ricardo Harris
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03-26-2008 10:22
From: Cherry Czervik Officially? NO.
Unofficially, if they don't cause someone to AR you, I don't think anyone much cares.
Unless of course it's the AR king of sl you're talking about or should I say queen? Actually, there are a lot more in here who just love hitting that AR switch, they can't seem to get enough of it. In the streets of rl it would be a different story.
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Ann Launay
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03-26-2008 10:26
From: Ricardo Harris In the streets of rl it would be a different story.
It's probably inadvisable to be nude in the streets of RL too...indecent exposure laws and all.
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Ricardo Harris
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03-26-2008 10:39
From: Colette Meiji
While the banking thing seemed to be begging for a ban ever since Ginko converted to GPBs and WSE claimed they wuz robbed.
As far as Banking in sl, who would of thought there would actually be people naive and foolish enough to use a place to keep their money. It's not like holding on to your cash in sl is a burden. There's no fear of losing it to burglary or robbery. There's one born every minute.
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Colette Meiji
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03-26-2008 10:41
From: Ricardo Harris As far as Banking in sl, who would of thought there would actually be people naive and foolish enough to use a place to keep their money. It's not like holding on to your cash in sl is a burden. There's no fear of losing it to burglary or robbery.
There's one born every minute. I think the length of time it took for the banks to collapse helped the scam become so large though. It was like "we haven't been robbed yet, you should invest too!"
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Ricardo Harris
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03-26-2008 10:42
From: Ann Launay It's probably inadvisable to be nude in the streets of RL too...indecent exposure laws and all. Unlike snitching, being nude in the streets of rl won't get you killed or labeled.
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Colette Meiji
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03-26-2008 10:43
From: Ricardo Harris Unlike snitching, being nude in the streets of rl won't get you killed or labeled. can cause traffic accidents though.
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03-26-2008 10:44
From: Ricardo Harris As far as Banking in sl, who would of thought there would actually be people naive and foolish enough to use a place to keep their money. It's not like holding on to your cash in sl is a burden. There's no fear of losing it to burglary or robbery.
There's one born every minute. Ricardo and I agree! I never understood why anyone would use a bank. Some of it was greed, but honestly, if some stranger walked up to you on the street and asked to borrow $1,000, and promised 100% ROI in 5 days, would anyone in their right mind take out their checkbook? Maybe. I guess people did, but it still boggles my mind.
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03-26-2008 10:46
From: Ricardo Harris Unlike snitching, being nude in the streets of rl won't get you killed or labeled. lol - yes it will. It might get you raped and killed in certain neighborhoods, and it will certainly get you labeled by the neighbors and the court system. The neighbors will call you "that naked weirdo" and the courts will call you the "Defendant".
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Kismet Karuna
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03-26-2008 10:59
From: Chris Norse Cherry, if these people are so strong and well informed, why don't they step up and say what they think in the open? Sounds kinda chickenshit to do it in the dark, but then that is just my opinion.
Yes, Kismet is an alt. If you look at his posting history he states that he is. His inworld profile is empty except for one group, this for an AV that was started in 2004. Look. My original account is no longer. I have a newer "main" but it isn't a paying account (yet), so it can't post here. So as far as posting on the forums - this is my main because it's the only one I can post here with. And wow. You know you've really stirred the bee's nest when people feel the need to go trawling my post history and positing that I am an alt in order to try to take some of the sting out of the things I am saying. It's just another way to marginalize me and to insulate the clique from any criticism.
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Kismet Karuna
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03-26-2008 11:02
From: Rioko Bamaisin I'm pretty sure Kismet is the same person as our disgruntled friend from Boston. But I could be wrong,just a feeling.  You're pretty wrong. Closest I have ever been to Boston is on a vacation to Long Island a few years ago. Back to the drawing board for you, you'll have to find another method to try and convince people not to listen to what I have said.
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Chris Norse
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03-26-2008 11:03
From: Kismet Karuna Look. My original account is no longer. I have a newer "main" but it isn't a paying account (yet), so it can't post here. So as far as posting on the forums - this is my main because it's the only one I can post here with.
And wow. You know you've really stirred the bee's nest when people feel the need to go trawling my post history and positing that I am an alt in order to try to take some of the sting out of the things I am saying. It's just another way to marginalize me and to insulate the clique from any criticism. Don't think to highly of yourself. I only looked into your post history because someone else had mentioned it. As for marginalizing you, you seem to do a very good job of that yourself without any help. Carry on.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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03-26-2008 11:07
LMAO what a freakin miserable person.
/me shakes head and ignores thread from now on.
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Colette Meiji
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03-26-2008 11:08
From: Kismet Karuna And wow. You know you've really stirred the bee's nest when people feel the need to go trawling my post history .
LOL I checked it myself after someone mentioned it (not Chris), I knew Id remembered you to an extent, but there used to be a more prolific poster named Kismet Dusk, so I wasn't sure. Some of those old threads I remembered from back in the old days and made me laugh.
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Ricardo Harris
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03-26-2008 11:09
From: Kismet Karuna Ah, but in that case, he wouldn't be wearing a sombrero, no? Sombrero is Mexican headwear. Although, we also speak the same language, Mexicans we're not. Well, almost the same language as many words are used differently as well as the accent. But it's cool.
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Kismet Karuna
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03-26-2008 11:10
From: Rioko Bamaisin People say that this is not a general discusion forum,but yet I keep hearing the word "debate" being thrown around. Psst...It's not a debate board either.  No it's not, it's an answers board that you and your cronies think is your personal playground where you get to push people around who don't fit your ideals. Simply pointing out that there are very lazy and weak minded people whose idea of debate is "You stink!" doesn't mean I think it's a debate board (I have never heard of a "debate board" btw). And I will point out that the regulars debate here all th time. Why aren't you bitching at them, as well?
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Ricardo Harris
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03-26-2008 11:10
From: Kismet Karuna You're pretty wrong. Closest I have ever been to Boston is on a vacation to Long Island a few years ago.
Back to the drawing board for you, you'll have to find another method to try and convince people not to listen to what I have said. Boston? Ugh!
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Kismet Karuna
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03-26-2008 11:11
From: Ricardo Harris Sombrero is Mexican headwear. Although, we also speak the same language, Mexicans we're not. Well, almost the same language as many words are used differently as well as the accent.
But it's cool. That's what I was saying. When I realized you were Puerto Rican, I realized that the sombrero didn't fit (pun intended).  Sorry for the confusion.
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