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Tegg Bode
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03-25-2008 23:48
Is that your adfarm I keep getting all my alts to AR?
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Ricardo Harris
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03-26-2008 00:38
From: Kismet Karuna


Now I am wondering if Trout really is a Trout! I'll bet Ricardo is really the sombrero wearing ghost of Richard Harris too!

;)






Only if he's a Boricua.
Kismet Karuna
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03-26-2008 00:59
From: Ricardo Harris
Only if he's a Boricua.

Ah, but in that case, he wouldn't be wearing a sombrero, no?
Swan Legend
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03-26-2008 01:37
From: Kismet Karuna
That's the thing. It's really only those who seem to self-identify who get all wound up, circle the wagons, and start calling names and so on, who I am pointing at. Which is so very counter productive when trying to combat allegations of group think.

A couple of posters completely missed that the OP was injecting some humor into her posts, and took it deadly seriously, and then proceeded to bang on her and judge her predicated on the idea that she was being 100% serious.

One of them said "YOU WERE BANNED!" Are they actually reading what is written? Do people even get the difference between "warned", "suspended", and "banned"? These words are not interchangeable. She said she had 2 strikes, and indicated that they were some time ago, and that she had been behaving since. Her worry now seems to be that since her friend got suspended, she may be the recipient of guilt by association discipline, and is worried that this may be her third strike because of that.

It's a valid concern, especially given how bass-ackwards LL can be with respect to these issues. I've seen people warned and suspended for ridiculous things, and seen people who did terrible things get off with a slap on the wrist. I won't just automatically assume that Bully is a true griefer, without hearing more info first. And if she was once, great! The fear factor of further disciplinary action is WORKING! She said she hadn't done anything in a long time, and that she was afraid to for fear of future repercussions. The system worked, in this case, as far as we know. And yes, she was a bit elusive,but with people already taking every little thing she said and running a mile with it, I probably would be too.

Also, I reread the thread, paying special attention to the first couple of pages, and Colette, I'm am going to have to withdraw my statement where I said that the first couple pages were tame. The OP was called several names in the first two pages, and told that she was being mocked intentionally, among other things. You were one of the only ones who acted like an adult and tried to get more info from her before laying into her (not that you probably would have, in any event). I find you to be one of the most fair and logical thinkers on this forum. Yes, I lurk a lot.

Damn you people and your tekki wiki literalism!! Because you are taking people's names so literally now, I have been forced to rethink some things.

Now I am wondering if Trout really is a Trout! I'll bet Ricardo is really the sombrero wearing ghost of Richard Harris too!

;)


i still think youre very wrong. only now i personally dislike you as well for being so nasty. good job!
Kismet Karuna
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03-26-2008 02:37
From: Swan Legend
i still think youre very wrong. only now i personally dislike you as well for being so nasty. good job!
Darling, you're anything but a Swan yourself.

What is it with people who are not at all interested in actually debating the merits of points and counter points and instead launch into the pretend-game that I am somehow being nastier than any of the Droogs who lined up to take their whacks at the OP and anyone who had the 'audacity' to question it? This is a classic tactic of someone who hopes that by simply saying meaningless, factually unsupported things, a different reality than what is actually occurring will take hold. If some of the posse comes in and says 'Yeah that!', all the better.

No, not buying it. You cannot honestly reread this thread and tell me that I am the one who should be singled out for my nastiness. While I have been sarcastic, I have sunk nowhere near the depths that some of these folks have. I've sworn at no one, yet been sworn at, and been insulted from post one, non-stop. The only reason you're singling me out is because I am not siding with you. It's painfully obvious, so don't even try.

Lastly and sadly, you make the mistake of thinking I give a tinker's damn whether or not you like me. Weak minded folks who rely on a group to feel whole may not understand that though. It is of zero consequence to me whether or not some anonymous heckler on the internet likes me.

Adieu.
Swan Legend
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03-26-2008 03:55
From: Kismet Karuna
Darling, you're anything but a Swan yourself.

What is it with people who are not at all interested in actually debating the merits of points and counter points and instead launch into the pretend-game that I am somehow being nastier than any of the Droogs who lined up to take their whacks at the OP and anyone who had the 'audacity' to question it? This is a classic tactic of someone who hopes that by simply saying meaningless, factually unsupported things, a different reality than what is actually occurring will take hold. If some of the posse comes in and says 'Yeah that!', all the better.

No, not buying it. You cannot honestly reread this thread and tell me that I am the one who should be singled out for my nastiness. While I have been sarcastic, I have sunk nowhere near the depths that some of these folks have. I've sworn at no one, yet been sworn at, and been insulted from post one, non-stop. The only reason you're singling me out is because I am not siding with you. It's painfully obvious, so don't even try.

Lastly and sadly, you make the mistake of thinking I give a tinker's damn whether or not you like me. Weak minded folks who rely on a group to feel whole may not understand that though. It is of zero consequence to me whether or not some anonymous heckler on the internet likes me.

Adieu.


i didnt read most of this post because you type too much as say very little. infact kind of surprised you even reacted to my post at all since you never heard of me before and its so beneath you to speak to the likes of me. i think its funny that you sit here and treat me the same way that you chastise others for. only difference is, no one here told you to stop posting because you were not invited to debate. and no one here jumped on bully for being an outsider. which is what you said happened.

basically you are full of crap. and a hypocrite.
Rioko Bamaisin
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03-26-2008 04:15
From: Swan Legend


basically you are full of crap. and a hypocrite.


This about sums it up Swan. It is futile to argue with him and he really is not worth your time. Ignore works wonders..(As long as people stop quoting him,lol.:p )
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Claire Silverspar
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03-26-2008 04:18
From: Gabriele Graves
At the risk of getting this on topic and all. Has this ever been done before? I haven't seen it - anyone need to check their profile(s)?

Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2008
Violation: Indecency:
Global Standards: Profile
Region: —
Description:Nudity photo
Action taken: Warning issued.


/me chokes on her tea..

you mean you can't have nudey pics in your profile?..... :S
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 04:32
From: Sindy Tsure
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DOES WANT!
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 04:33
From: Claire Silverspar
/me chokes on her tea..

you mean you can't have nudey pics in your profile?..... :S


Officially? NO.

Unofficially, if they don't cause someone to AR you, I don't think anyone much cares.

***edit after reading this page's entries*** Sheesh. Pack it in you two. No one wants to see public petty squabbling (no one with a First or even a Second life does anyway :) )
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Wulfric Chevalier
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03-26-2008 04:34
From: Claire Silverspar
/me chokes on her tea..

you mean you can't have nudey pics in your profile?..... :S


Aren't profiles supposed to be PG? Mind you, my parents' guidance never extended to adults not being allowed to look at nakedness.
Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 04:36
From: Wulfric Chevalier
Aren't profiles supposed to be PG? Mind you, my parents' guidance never extended to adults not being allowed to look at nakedness.


Yep. Which I disagree with fundamentally. Nothing in here should be PG if you ask ME but I am biased :)

Note for those with a stick up their backsides and/or drama complex. This is intended with some irony.
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Claire Silverspar
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03-26-2008 04:42
ok. I think i may have some profile editing to do lol. I dont want to run the risk.

I still dont get why everything has to be exactly PG. I can understand not shoving it in people's faces but if we are all adults....anyway, nm. Don't want to start anything I wont finish lol.
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Qie Niangao
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03-26-2008 05:10
From: Colette Meiji
I have to admit though--- unlike gambling and banking there wasn't much writing on the wall that the end of adfarming was near.
Hmmm. Actually, for me, the banking ban was totally unexpected, but there were all kinds of hints that adfarming was soon to be addressed. (Astute listeners at Linden office hours even knew that the first step would be a "policy" rather than "technical" solution, counter to Philip's statement to the press around the beginning of the year--which was itself an early warning of sorts.) I tried to relay some of that in this forum, warning folks not to spend L$s on adfarm parcels because the Lindens would be taking action. (Admittedly, those warnings got lots of responses in denial: "Won't ever happen...", "Adfarmers pay so much tier...", "I spoke with my Linden and he assured me...", etc. Probably everybody thought I was just blowing smoke.) But "I told ya so" is unseemly. And one really didn't have to see the Linden writing on the wall to know adfarming wasn't a long-term business:

RL enterprises have to anticipate change or die; one tool for that is to model the "value chain" to assess if a business is well-positioned for survival. To succeed, a business must add value or reduce cost; adfarms destroy value and increase costs. That would be "Fail."
Waterstar Eilde
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03-26-2008 05:39
From: Stephen Wisent
... What I would say is that I do agree there is quite a difficult and intimidating atmosphere on the board these days which wasn't here when I first started posting(which wasn't that long ago actually).

I don't think it's any individual's fault, and I think each is actually friendly and open when met on a one to one basis.

There is however a wee group on this Forum who overuse the in-joke, support each other very vehemently, escalate things way to fast and often to an inappropriate and personally insulting level - often to the point of insulting someone's perceived RL situation...


Hear hear. Although I regularly read entire threads in this forum, I can rarely be bothered to post these days unless I can directly answer the OP's question, for precisely the reasons you highlight. The idea of engaging in intelligent (or even not-so-intelligent) debate in which the right to hold a different opinion is upheld without persistent baiting and belittling appears sadly to be well beyond the scope of many contributors.
Rioko Bamaisin
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03-26-2008 05:44
People say that this is not a general discusion forum,but yet I keep hearing the word "debate" being thrown around. Psst...It's not a debate board either.:o
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 05:55
From: Waterstar Eilde
Hear hear. Although I regularly read entire threads in this forum, I can rarely be bothered to post these days unless I can directly answer the OP's question, for precisely the reasons you highlight. The idea of engaging in intelligent (or even not-so-intelligent) debate in which the right to hold a different opinion is upheld without persistent baiting and belittling appears sadly to be well beyond the scope of many contributors.


Yanno, I stopped posting. Not because I was intimidated (believe me I am not, this is still likkle fluffy kittikins by comparison to a lot of places) but because I was sick of being castigated because I DARED to say that people spoke to me privately in world to say they didn't want to get into it here.

I dip in now and then at work when I have idle time. Nowadays other people are saying what I did and I *STILL* get people talk to me about this Forum in world. The latest of which was a very strong minded, independent, articulate and informed person who said "I don't like how it's all so damned self-congratulatory and self referential".

Another person, also a former strong and humourous contributor said far more simply "I don't like how it is any more" (referring back to how it was a long time back really).

The thing for me is that this is all entirely consistant with the way all Forums work, including the things "which must not be mentioned". This is observed phenomema - it is how a minority will react when challenged that they are in fact a minority.

I know the people most likely to flame me for daring to express this opionion either have me on ignore or I have them on ignore. Meh.

***edit*** I am wondering if Kismet is an alt. I'm rather hoping not - I have some respect for the forthrightness of what he is saying and I'd hate to think it's someone I've had handbags with.
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Ann Launay
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03-26-2008 06:13
From: Kismet Karuna


A couple of posters completely missed that the OP was injecting some humor into her posts, and took it deadly seriously, and then proceeded to bang on her and judge her predicated on the idea that she was being 100% serious.

Who's making assumptions now? YOU may have found them humorous, but that doesn't mean she intended them to be. And if she actually had, don't you think she would have said something along the lines of, "Whoa, guys, calm down...I'm only semi-serious!" at some point? Most people do, when their humor is misunderstood, especially in this sort of format.
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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
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03-26-2008 06:34
From: Cherry Czervik
Yanno, I stopped posting. Not because I was intimidated (believe me I am not, this is still likkle fluffy kittikins by comparison to a lot of places) but because I was sick of being castigated because I DARED to say that people spoke to me privately in world to say they didn't want to get into it here.

I dip in now and then at work when I have idle time. Nowadays other people are saying what I did and I *STILL* get people talk to me about this Forum in world. The latest of which was a very strong minded, independent, articulate and informed person who said "I don't like how it's all so damned self-congratulatory and self referential".

Another person, also a former strong and humourous contributor said far more simply "I don't like how it is any more" (referring back to how it was a long time back really).

The thing for me is that this is all entirely consistant with the way all Forums work, including the things "which must not be mentioned". This is observed phenomema - it is how a minority will react when challenged that they are in fact a minority.

I know the people most likely to flame me for daring to express this opionion either have me on ignore or I have them on ignore. Meh.

***edit*** I am wondering if Kismet is an alt. I'm rather hoping not - I have some respect for the forthrightness of what he is saying and I'd hate to think it's someone I've had handbags with.


Cherry, if these people are so strong and well informed, why don't they step up and say what they think in the open? Sounds kinda chickenshit to do it in the dark, but then that is just my opinion.

Yes, Kismet is an alt. If you look at his posting history he states that he is. His inworld profile is empty except for one group, this for an AV that was started in 2004.
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Claire Silverspar
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03-26-2008 06:37
I dont really see it as chickenshit....more just so tired of posting/reading that they cant be bothered anymore.
Ive had a few people say similar, but I am not about to stop posting here anytime soon so *shrug*
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03-26-2008 06:41
From: Claire Silverspar
/me chokes on her tea..

you mean you can't have nudey pics in your profile?..... :S


I believe profiles are *supposed* to fall under the PG guidelines, as their viewable all over the service. Not dat it always works out dat way.

Mari
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Rioko Bamaisin
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03-26-2008 06:41
I'm pretty sure Kismet is the same person as our disgruntled friend from Boston. But I could be wrong,just a feeling.:)
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03-26-2008 06:44
From: Claire Silverspar
I dont really see it as chickenshit....more just so tired of posting/reading that they cant be bothered anymore.
Ive had a few people say similar, but I am not about to stop posting here anytime soon so *shrug*



Personally, I don't understand that line of thinking. It's a forum,there will always be different personalities and people who get along better than others...If you don't like a board,fine don't post there but don't expect everyone to change just because of you.

(You being in general,not actually you Claire.:p )
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Cherry Czervik
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03-26-2008 06:47
From: Rioko Bamaisin
I'm pretty sure Kismet is the same person as our disgruntled friend from Boston. But I could be wrong,just a feeling.:)


I thought this might be the case. Similar feel, but somehow more cogent. You have indeed voiced my secret concern there Rioko :)

***edit*** Claire's got it in one though. However I don't think anyone expects anything to change just for them, they're expressing an opinion and how it makes them feel. Personally I often just can't be bothered, but then I'm lazy/too wrapped up building (take your pick, both are true lol).
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03-26-2008 06:53
From: Chris Norse
Cherry, if these people are so strong and well informed, why don't they step up and say what they think in the open? Sounds kinda chickenshit to do it in the dark, but then that is just my opinion.

Yes, Kismet is an alt. If you look at his posting history he states that he is. His inworld profile is empty except for one group, this for an AV that was started in 2004.


Perhaps they are just bored with the reaction they get Chris. I know I am very bored with the reaction I got.

Perhaps they have other things happening in their lives which have made them realise how petty and insular one Forum is.

ALSO ... I'd say why don't you ask them directly instead of asking me. I know what they've said to me. Are you thinking perhaps that I am referring to myself? You should know better than that, one would hope.

Perhaps the very fact that the reaction to my post about what I've had said to me being chickenshit might well just underline and emphasise the reasons why people don't want to post here, n'est pas?


***edit*** Of course Kismet is an alt. You don't think I've gone so far as to look that up do you? Why would I bother ... perhaps my posts are a bit confusing given they have some tongue in cheek Englishness to them which is sometimes not immediately apparent, for which I give suitable apology.
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