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Victorria Paine
Sleepless in Wherever
Join date: 13 Jul 2007
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09-25-2007 13:38
From: Colette Meiji


Though I suppose time will, as people age the age will adjust accordingly.


Or people will grow out of it. Hard to tell what will happen now. Maybe "Web 3.0" with 3d avatars that have our RL faces on them will make MySpace look like a joke, and anyone who wants any privacy online will be a pariah ... who knows?
Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
Posts: 3,856
09-25-2007 13:40
From: Michael Bigwig
As an adult...you should never fear strangers. I honestly wish more people would be open to talking to strangers. We are far too closed off...too scared...too paranoid...and too insecure. We need to embrace the fact that the majority of us are looking for the same things in life--why be afraid to open up to someone? That's not what life's about.


I agree with you Michael. I greet every passing stranger on the street with a "hello" and boy it sure catches them off guard. In my community people talk all the time. Strangers are very likely to start up a conversation. I live in LA but the community I live in is small. It is a little rough though, but the community feel is why I live here.

I do frequently avoid talking to strangers sometimes though. It has nothing to do with fear though. It usually has to do with me being tired and concerned about getting stuck in a conversation I'm not interested in.
Domaiv Decosta
Registered User
Join date: 3 Jun 2007
Posts: 243
09-25-2007 13:42
if you know where someone is from before youstart to talk to them you will have already made certain assumptions in your mind as to what they are like.
oh your from such a counrty that means yor a , cheese eating surrender monkey or your from that country so all the males in your family are called Stavros and own restaurants.


how silly does that sound? but how many of you think of such stereotypes when you meet someone?
Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 7,951
09-25-2007 13:43
Oh and let's not forget the prospect of our profiles being searchable from outside SL. Some people might not want their location on their profile because of that.
Oryx Tempel
Registered User
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 7,663
09-25-2007 13:43
From: Victorria Paine
Or people will grow out of it. Hard to tell what will happen now. Maybe "Web 3.0" with 3d avatars that have our RL faces on them will make MySpace look like a joke, and anyone who wants any privacy online will be a pariah ... who knows?

:eek: That will be the day I throw my computer away.
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JessyAnne Theas
Cliqueless
Join date: 9 May 2007
Posts: 610
09-25-2007 13:43
From: Bradley Bracken
I agree with you Michael. I greet every passing stranger on the street with a "hello" and boy it sure catches them off guard. In my community people talk all the time. Strangers are very likely to start up a conversation. I live in LA but the community I live in is small. It is a little rough though, but the community feel is why I live here.

I do frequently avoid talking to strangers sometimes though. It has nothing to do with fear though. It usually has to do with me being tired and concerned about getting stuck in a conversation I'm not interested in.


Hey.. that's totally different. I do that also.

But then.. I don't say to the strangers "Hello, I live at... blah blah street, here's my phone number, and I'm a young in my 30s single gal and I may have forgotten to lock my window.." (okay thats an exaggeration)

But my point is, saying hello or waving to strangers on the street is just friendliness. But to have it equate to what Michael is taking a poll on here would mean greeting and giving them you home addy and phone # then walking away.
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Michael Bigwig
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Join date: 5 Dec 2005
Posts: 2,181
09-25-2007 13:44
From: Ashlynn Dawn
I think the key part of your statement here is its going to give you different "impressions" which is just that, an impression of someone based on a page they have put together on the internet. I can easily go to MS right now and make 2 vastly different styles of a page, both of which may not truly represent who or what I am at all. People often follow trends which includes things they put on a MS page. The page they show a possible boss would likely differ greatly from what they show to be cool or whatever word they are using now a days.

A resume, that has to be fact that can be checked for accurate information. A MS page? Not so much.


It is what it is...some bosses and corporations us MS as a 'character' description. And to be honest...it does show someone's character...to a degree. People have to realize that it can incriminate them...

I work at a university (a big one), and all over the dean's office are posters that give this as an example. They have a mock 'myspace' 'facebook' page of a student, filled out with childish, vulgar information (which a lot of people do) and it clearly says 'THINK' in big letters up top--it breaks down how important it is to have a clean MS or FB when applying for jobs.
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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09-25-2007 13:45
From: Michael Bigwig

As an adult...you should never fear strangers.


When you use the public transport I do, then tell me about not fearing strangers. The nutter on the bus is too common ;)

It's all about circumstance, we don't walk around with our RL location above our heads when we're out and about, people find this information via dialogue.
Ashlynn Dawn
Shopping addict
Join date: 1 Feb 2004
Posts: 508
09-25-2007 13:47
From: Michael Bigwig
It is what it is...some bosses and corporations us MS as a 'character' description. And to be honest...it does show someone's character...to a degree. People have to realize that it can incriminate them...

I work at a university (a big one), and all over the dean's office are posters that give this as an example. They have a mock 'myspace' 'facebook' page of a student, filled out with childish, vulgar information (which a lot of people do) and it clearly says 'THINK' in big letters up top--it breaks down how important it is to have a clean MS or FB when applying for jobs.



My point, which I think got missed there, was that you can easily fake a page on MS. Saying "think" means hey, make it look as good and respectable as you can, even if that isnt what you might do otherwise. That isnt to say everyone does, it it has its implications. So, having a clean MS or FB doesnt mean you are that personality, it means you have at least enough brains to put something out to try and make a good impression. Like I also said, nothing stops them from having more than 1 and having one be clean and the perfect impression, and the other full of smut and junk. Being fake is nothing new on the internet lol
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
Posts: 3,856
09-25-2007 13:48
From: JessyAnne Theas
But my point is, saying hello or waving to strangers on the street is just friendliness. But to have it equate to what Michael is taking a poll on here would mean greeting and giving them you home addy and phone # then walking away.


Michaels style can be abrasive, yes, I've been accused of the same. I don't see that's what he was saying at all. He merely asked why people choose not to include their location and questioned if it was similar to the reasons they don't use voice. I don't see anywhere that he has said anyone should include giving their address and phone number.
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
09-25-2007 13:48
From: JessyAnne Theas
Hey.. that's totally different. I do that also.

But then.. I don't say to the strangers "Hello, I live at... blah blah street, here's my phone number, and I'm a young in my 30s single gal and I may have forgotten to lock my window.." (okay thats an exaggeration)

But my point is, saying hello or waving to strangers on the street is just friendliness. But to have it equate to what Michael is taking a poll on here would mean greeting and giving them you home addy and phone # then walking away.


I think that Men will be more confident releasing their personal information in real life and on the internet than Women. Such as the address and phone number you use in the example.

Its really pretty simple. Men are physically more capable of defending themselves, and are far less likely the be the victims of sexual agression.
JessyAnne Theas
Cliqueless
Join date: 9 May 2007
Posts: 610
09-25-2007 13:50
From: Colette Meiji
I think that Men will be more confident releasing their personal information in real life and on the internet than Women. Such as the address and phone number you use in the example.

Its really pretty simple. Men are physically more capable of defending themselves, and are far less likely the be the victims of sexual agression.


Yes, I agree. I said before, men seem to have less of an issue with it. Which they should since we women seem to have a bigger target..



From: Bradley Bracken
Michaels style can be abrasive, yes, I've been accused of the same. I don't see that's what he was saying at all. He merely asked why people choose not to include their location and questioned if it was similar to the reasons they don't use voice. I don't see anywhere that he has said anyone should include giving their address and phone number.


Bradley sweets, I said "equate".
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Kascha Matova
Bus Bench Supermodel
Join date: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 342
09-25-2007 13:51
From: Bradley Bracken
Not really a valid argument. The same could be said for those that eat uncooked cookie dough.


Damnit! This is the second forum I've been on today where cookies are equated with evil! Cookies are our friends!And they're tasty too! Especially with double stuff!

Stop the cookie hate! :(

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JessyAnne Theas
Cliqueless
Join date: 9 May 2007
Posts: 610
09-25-2007 13:52
Well.. that and it's been proven that odds of getting food poisoning from raw eggs is remote
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Chas Connolly
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Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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09-25-2007 13:55
From: Michael Bigwig
You don't need schooling for that Chas...you simply change it. Takes less than a minute. :) To some, that may be the work of genius...to others...common sense.


Excuse me? Am I being condescended to? Noooooo, Michael wouldn't do that, would he?

I don't need schooling to change my location? I generally hop on a plane. I do it a lot.
Colette Meiji
Registered User
Join date: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 15,556
09-25-2007 13:58
From: Michael Bigwig
It is what it is...some bosses and corporations us MS as a 'character' description. And to be honest...it does show someone's character...to a degree. People have to realize that it can incriminate them...

I work at a university (a big one), and all over the dean's office are posters that give this as an example. They have a mock 'myspace' 'facebook' page of a student, filled out with childish, vulgar information (which a lot of people do) and it clearly says 'THINK' in big letters up top--it breaks down how important it is to have a clean MS or FB when applying for jobs.


Now. This is kind of what I was getting at. If you work at a University. Of course most of the students will have Myspace pages. Beucase the Kids demographic is a big one.

In the University setting of course a lot of the adults dealing with those kids will be involved in My Space.

This isnt the same thing as the real post 25 world. Universities are great places. But they are different from America at large.

First off peopel are exposed to more kids (18-25) on a daily basis. More people involved in actively creating art (your music and movie example) More people preparing themselves to go for that first big job interveiw (peopel graduating)

Etc.

In your Employer example, an employer hiring kids out of college is of course going to be more likely to look at their myspace, than someone hiring 40 year olds.

Becuase most of those kids have myspace accounts.
Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
Posts: 3,856
09-25-2007 13:58
From: JessyAnne Theas
Yes, I agree. I said before, men seem to have less of an issue with it. Which they should since we women seem to have a bigger target..


Bradley sweets, I said "equate".


Yes, you did. I need to stop speed reading.

I agree that for women its a bigger risk, but I truly don't see any risk just giving your city, unless you are in a small town.

As a gay man, I take a risk also. I have friends who have been attacked and one brutally beaten til he has brain damage. I don't fear giving my city because I'm much more likely to be tracked down after leaving a club (if I went to them) than by giving my city on SL.

I would venture to guess that the vast majority of women attacked from net stalkers were from places like Myspace and dating sights where people willingly give out more than just the city their from.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
09-25-2007 14:02
From: Oryx Tempel
:eek: That will be the day I throw my computer away.


I will install Linux........

(Don't know if that would change anything.... but sounded as a fun remark to make... Seen some many MS vs Linux discussion :P ).

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Derbor Torok
Lost soul
Join date: 21 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,016
09-25-2007 14:05
From: Bradley Bracken
Michaels style can be abrasive, yes, I've been accused of the same. I don't see that's what he was saying at all. He merely asked why people choose not to include their location and questioned if it was similar to the reasons they don't use voice. I don't see anywhere that he has said anyone should include giving their address and phone number.


I think where people choose to draw their privacy line is very personal. I actually don't know where mine is.

I am normally a trusting person in RL, but the advantage of RL is that there are a lot of 'hints' about who to trust and who not to. We develop these 'hints' thru a lifetime of experience. They ring a bell when I meet someone you should not trust.

So for me in RL my default, when I meet someone new who does not ring a bell, is to trust until I get a reason not to.

However, in sl these same hints don't work, you have to create new ones... if that is even possible. The beauty of sl is that anyone can look and act differently and there are all kinds of people that look/act great and some that look/act scary... I've learned not to trust by default.. I am more cautious and careful about new people I am still fairly open but it takes me longer to trust someone here..

Me telling someone where I am from is just one of the steps that says "ok, i am starting to trust you..."


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Oryx Tempel
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Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 7,663
09-25-2007 14:06
From: Derbor Torok
I think where people choose to draw their privicy line is very personal. I actually don;t know where mine is.


Someone told me once that it's that little line of hair south of your belly button...
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
Posts: 3,856
09-25-2007 14:06
From: Derbor Torok
I think where people choose to draw their privicy line is very personal.


I couldn't agree with you more. And with that I will back out of this thread.
Ann Launay
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 7,893
09-25-2007 14:07
From: Kascha Matova
Damnit! This is the second forum I've been on today where cookies are equated with evil! Cookies are our friends!And they're tasty too! Especially with double stuff!

Stop the cookie hate! :(


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Bradley Bracken
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09-25-2007 14:07
From: Oryx Tempel
Someone told me once that it's that little line of hair south of your belly button...


That's a happy trail not a privacy line. Well, I guess maybe it is, if one chooses to keep it private.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
09-25-2007 14:26
From: Michael Bigwig
As an adult...you should never fear strangers.


Where do you get that piece of <bliep>....

When I walk in the evening on the streets here and a stranger follows me for more then a few minutes, I do fear him a lot... Mostly I have my dogs with me and a can of hairspray (Pepperspray is illegal here, hairspray has the same effect)

Only when a stranger opens up to be no longer to be stranger there "might" (just might) be a reason to gain some trust....

Too many people are hurt and damaged for life by "well meaning" strangers....

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Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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09-25-2007 14:26
From: Oryx Tempel
Someone told me once that it's that little line of hair south of your belly button...


For some guys, the hair line starts under our noses and extends, unhindered, to the tops of our feet. This line you speak of is just a few trees in a great forest. Basically, you're saying that my privacy line is everywhere that is not forehead, the palms of my hands and the bottom of my feet.
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