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Victorria Paine
Sleepless in Wherever
Join date: 13 Jul 2007
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09-25-2007 13:15
From: Michael Bigwig Not true. Think of it this way...you want to hire either Joe or Jeniffer. You are a pretty resourceful individual, savvy in the ways of the world...so you check if they have a Myspace account.
Jeniffer's account is funny, witty, and insightful. Joe's has a dozen pictures of him chugging beer and flipping the bird. You can see where this comes in handy--don't blame technology...blame the person that is oblivious to it's potential. But you see, it's very stupid to distinguish between people on the basis of how they spend their freetime. I couldn't care less if my staff spends their free time swinging from the bloody chandeliers, as long as they get the job done that I need done from them. I don't think I can get anything like that from MySpace. The employers who use MySpace to weed people out are looking for cookie cutter, clean-cut, boring people to work for them.
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Kathy Morellet
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09-25-2007 13:18
If asked nicely, I will usually give the state I'm in. If I really get to know you, I may even narrow that to the general region of the state. Otherwise, nobody in SL has a need to know. But, that's just me... *location: somewhere between the North and South poles  *
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Turbo Streeter
Priminally Insane
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09-25-2007 13:18
My-Space self reported info can be relative crap too. I have a buddy with a MySpace page where the wall paper is tiled images of Jim Beam. Go out with him RL and he's 90% more likely to order an iced tea. A prospective employer questioning if he has an alcohol problem by his self added images would be misguided at best.
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Michael Bigwig
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09-25-2007 13:20
From: Kascha Matova How do you rebutt the answers that come from an informal poll intended for nothing more than research? Doesn't that consist of just tallying answers, and not parsing them for validity? No...it's not my style. I wasn't arguing with poll answers...I began debating when something different was thrown in the mix...isn't that totally obvious? If you're going to indirectly slam someone...try and be more accurate please.
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FD Spark
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09-25-2007 13:20
From: Brodsky Zapedzki Another question would be how often do you change your location. And when you do change it in RL how long does it take before you update the info on your forum profile. I recently changed sl land and changed location in blog profile but I am clueless how to do it here or I would. People wouldn't hire me based on my blog because of sterotypes of being disabled. But you know what I don't care. but rarely do I use my real name either. Nor am I applying for jobs because the place that hire wouldn't hire me because of insurance risk purposes anyway.
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Bradley Bracken
Goodbye, Farewell, Amen
Join date: 2 Apr 2007
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09-25-2007 13:20
From: Victorria Paine The employers who use MySpace to weed people out are looking for cookie cutter, clean-cut, boring people to work for them. You can argue with the method, but what Michael says is true. They do use it and likely will continue to do so. Having worked many years in recruiting, I can tell you that you get so you use any piece of information you can get your hands on. Sometimes the choice is a complete toss up therefore companies are always finding new ways to EXCLUDE individuals. You don't have to like the method, but if you are applying for jobs and you have a Myspace account, I'd highly recommend that you look like a professional on it.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-25-2007 13:21
From: Michael Bigwig Not true. Think of it this way...you want to hire either Joe or Jeniffer. You are a pretty resourceful individual, savvy in the ways of the world...so you check if they have a Myspace account.
Jeniffer's account is funny, witty, and insightful. Joe's has a dozen pictures of him chugging beer and flipping the bird. You can see where this comes in handy--don't blame technology...blame the person that is oblivious to it's potential. Yes. because a mySpace account IS the window into someone's personality, so Joe must take it as seriously as Jennifer.  That's about as equal as saying you know a person's true worth by their forum posts, ot the in world personna. Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt .
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Colette Meiji
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09-25-2007 13:21
From: Bradley Bracken Not really a valid argument. The same could be said for those that eat uncooked cookie dough.
I have no problem with those that don't want to disclose information, but I think it's unfortunate how scared we've all become. Statistically we are living in the safest time in history. Murder rates are at an all time low compared to other era's. The only reason it seems more scary is because of the media. A hundred years ago if a murder or kidnapping occured 3,000 miles away you wouldn't have heard about it. Now you not only will hear about it, but if it's sensational enough you'll hear about it over and over and over again. It will even be given its own theme music on the nightly news.
I'm not saying to give out anything and everything but no one should have a fear of giving out their country, their state, even their city in most cases (unless it's a small town perhaps). There are many reasons why a person may choose not to give out this information, but I don't think fear should be one of them. Would be more like eating uncooked pork rather than Cookie Dough. Becuase the cases where women have been raped or killed are well documented rather than speculative. Even if its statistically rare. We also do not live in the safest time in history.   And the US has a significantly higher murder rate than most developed countries. You are significiantly many times more likely to be murdered in the US than you are to win the lottery, or even be struck by lightning. your odds of being murdered per year are about 1 in 20,000. While its true people shouldnt live in fear - it does happen. You would have to decide if the tangible benefits of giving away X amount of your personal information are worth the risks of having that information out there. The risk might be small but the tangible benefits might be none.
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Oryx Tempel
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09-25-2007 13:22
From: Bradley Bracken As for why don't I use voice? Simply...I just don't. I don't like talking on the phone that much. If a nearby friend starts to get chatty I ask them to come over or just end the conversation. I do that ALL the time. Talking on the phone drives me nuts; why would I do it in SL?
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Ann Launay
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Join date: 8 Aug 2006
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09-25-2007 13:23
To heck with mud wrestling and pillow fights...let's put up a cage match style wresting ring at the Hangout!
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Michael Bigwig
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09-25-2007 13:23
From: Brenda Connolly Does that mean a person with a MySpace account would be in a better position to be hired? It's very possible...don't dismiss this fact. It's the way of the modern world. Let me give you an example--let's say I find a film company shooting a film...I email them with my headshot and resume. Along with this, I attach a Myspace link. If the casting director goes to my MS, they will find a lot more information and imagery than the average auditor that only has a headshot and resume. It's worked for me many times. It's all about how you use it.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-25-2007 13:25
From: Michael Bigwig It's very possible...don't dismiss this fact. It's the way of the modern world.
Let me give you an example--let's say I find a film company shooting a film...I email them with my headshot and resume. Along with this, I attach a Myspace link. If the casting director goes to my MS, they will find a lot more information and imagery than the average auditor that only has a headshot and resume.
It's worked for me many times. It's all about how you use it. I can see it for actor's, musicians, etc definitely. But if I'm applying for a job as a corporate cubicle dwelling drone, it should have no relevance on me being hired.
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Victorria Paine
Sleepless in Wherever
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09-25-2007 13:25
From: Bradley Bracken
You don't have to like the method, but if you are applying for jobs and you have a Myspace account, I'd highly recommend that you look like a professional on it.
I suppose so. Thankfully I don't have a MySpace account ... yet another good reason *not* to have one, it seems to me.
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Brenda Connolly
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09-25-2007 13:27
From: Victorria Paine I suppose so. Thankfully I don't have a MySpace account ... yet another good reason *not* to have one, it seems to me. Agreed. I'm quite happy being way behind the technology curve in this case,
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Darien Caldwell
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09-25-2007 13:27
I don't use voice. I don't post specifics about my RL either. go figure. 
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Michael Bigwig
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09-25-2007 13:29
From: Brenda Connolly Yes. because a mySpace account IS the window into someone's personality, so Joe must take it as seriously as Jennifer.  That's about as equal as saying you know a person's true worth by their forum posts, ot the in world personna. Sorry, that dog doesn't hunt . Stretching Brenda...majorly stretching. That's not what I was saying at all--but you better believe if a person's MS is filled with vulgarity, trash, smut and debri...this DOES give you a glimpse into who they are. And the way someone chooses to respond to others on a forum, also gives an insight into a person's personality. It's not a definitive technique...but it sure does give a glimpse. If you post a picture of a beautiful sunset on MS, and a wonderful original poem attached...that's going to give you a vastly different impression--and rightly so--to a person that posts a picture of a big-butt beauty with the caption, "I'd hit that!"
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Oryx Tempel
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09-25-2007 13:29
From: Turbo Streeter My-Space self reported info can be relative crap too. I have a buddy with a MySpace page where the wall paper is tiled images of Jim Beam. Go out with him RL and he's 90% more likely to order an iced tea. A prospective employer questioning if he has an alcohol problem by his self added images would be misguided at best. I had mine listing me as being 99 years old. 
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Ciaran Laval
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09-25-2007 13:30
From: Michael Bigwig
I was just wondering why so many of you choose not to include your location in your bio--below a person's avatar picture it gives that info out...
When I was a lad I was told to never talk to strangers, never accept lifts of strangers, never accept sweets off strangers. If someone talks to me it doesn't take long to figure out where I'm from. As SL sweeps across international boundaries, I don't see the great importance in knowing someone's RL location. If I was doing a huge business deal and the deal was dependent upon people being online at the same time, then it may be important to know but that's way down the line and not something I need to know right away.
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Michael Bigwig
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09-25-2007 13:30
From: Brenda Connolly I can see it for actor's, musicians, etc definitely. But if I'm applying for a job as a corporate cubicle dwelling drone, it should have no relevance on me being hired. I personally know of a handful of profession corporations that check Myspace--this includes big-ten universities.
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Bradley Bracken
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09-25-2007 13:33
From: Colette Meiji Would be more like eating uncooked pork rather than Cookie Dough. Becuase the cases where women have been raped or killed are well documented rather than speculative. Even if its statistically rare. We also do not live in the safest time in history.   And the US has a significantly higher murder rate than most developed countries. You are significiantly many times more likely to be murdered in the US than you are to win the lottery, or even be struck by lightning. your odds of being murdered per year are about 1 in 20,000. While its true people shouldnt live in fear - it does happen. You would have to decide if the tangible benefits of giving away X amount of your personal information are worth the risks of having that information out there. The risk might be small but the tangible benefits might be none. I still think cookie dough was the better analogy. Uncooked pork is a much higher likelihood of getting sick. I will and do eat cookie dough. Hmmmmmm cookie dough. When I was saying we live in the safest time in history, I was referring thoughout history not just the last 50 - 100 years. Unfortunately I cannot locate the information I'm referring to so I'll concede to this one. I also don't argue the statistics you've provided. the odds of being murdered are still extremely low. However, most law enforcement officers will tell you that if we could eliminate domestic violence and murder then our murder rate would be extremely small. A month ago a dead body was found in the dumpster behind my building. Did it concern me? No. Because as I expected it was a gang member killed by another gang member at a location far away from here. We were just the dumping ground. I'm not arguing the risk isn't out there for anyone to be murdered, I know some who have, but statistically an odd murder from a stranger is rare. It happens, yes. No denying that. But its rare.
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Ashlynn Dawn
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09-25-2007 13:34
From: Michael Bigwig Stretching Brenda...majorly stretching. That's not what I was saying at all--but you better believe if a person's MS is filled with vulgarity, trash, smut and debri...this DOES give you a glimpse into who they are.
And the way someone chooses to respond to others on a forum, also gives an insight into a person's personality. It's not a definitive technique...but it sure does give a glimpse.
If you post a picture of a beautiful sunset on MS, and a wonderful original poem attached...that's going to give you a vastly different impression--and rightly so--to a person that posts a picture of a big-butt beauty with the caption, "I'd hit that!" I think the key part of your statement here is its going to give you different "impressions" which is just that, an impression of someone based on a page they have put together on the internet. I can easily go to MS right now and make 2 vastly different styles of a page, both of which may not truly represent who or what I am at all. People often follow trends which includes things they put on a MS page. The page they show a possible boss would likely differ greatly from what they show to be cool or whatever word they are using now a days. A resume, that has to be fact that can be checked for accurate information. A MS page? Not so much.
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Michael Bigwig
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09-25-2007 13:34
From: Ciaran Laval When I was a lad I was told to never talk to strangers, never accept lifts of strangers, never accept sweets off strangers. If someone talks to me it doesn't take long to figure out where I'm from. Ummm...you can stop that now. You're an adult.  I'm just having fun...seriously though...we tell that to our children because they are helpless to attacks, and much easier targets. As an adult...you should never fear strangers. I honestly wish more people would be open to talking to strangers. We are far too closed off...too scared...too paranoid...and too insecure. We need to embrace the fact that the majority of us are looking for the same things in life--why be afraid to open up to someone? That's not what life's about.
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Colette Meiji
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09-25-2007 13:35
If you put information like that out there on the web why wouldnt companies look at it?
They are going to be curious, and also likely want to make a quick check that your not a total looney.
That doesnt mean the same thing as it getting you a job.
Unless theres something you have out there that would be soemthing the employer was interested in.
But thats the same thing with any website you produce.
It also doesnt shift the Main target demographic of Myspace.
Though I suppose time will, as people age the age will adjust accordingly.
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Victorria Paine
Sleepless in Wherever
Join date: 13 Jul 2007
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09-25-2007 13:37
From: Michael Bigwig
As an adult...you should never fear strangers. I honestly wish more people would be open to talking to strangers. We are far too closed off...too scared...too paranoid...and too insecure. We need to embrace the fact that the majority of us are looking for the same things in life--why be afraid to open up to someone? That's not what life's about.
Lol. My opinion of other people is vastly different from yours, to be honest.
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JessyAnne Theas
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09-25-2007 13:38
From: Victorria Paine Lol. My opinion of other people is vastly different from yours, to be honest. Mine too. Strangers can be hella frightening...lol!
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