Visual effect of banlines on neighbours - a demonstration you can visit inworld (?)

I think there is a misunderstanding on your part, but I'll go through in order...



Yeah, you are. You say ""All I want... is to be able to avoid people's banlines by making them more visible... etc." Which is untrue. You are also a proponant of banlines being visible from the inside. How does this "Solution" give you what you claim to want?
You're being disingenuous.



Then fly over the parcels that have banlines, then lower down over the parcel that's "public". Why is it someone else's problem that YOUR vehicle isn't manouverable enough to do this?


No. Just no. Ability does not equal right. If someone doesn't have banlines up, they are ALLOWING you onto their land. You do not have the RIGHT to go there.

That is about LANDOWNER rights! Good lord! Not "People wandering around's" rights.
Oh, my God. You honestly believe that, just because you're not walking around,but are in a blimp, that you actually have the right to go onto people's private property?
Seriously? You're not just messing with me here?

This is neither here nor there. What you are asking, demanding ostensibly, is for people to play the way you want them to. That's out of line. It really is.



Well, in this instance, YOU are in the wrong. The land I owned on the mainland WAS my private land. I don't know where you're getting that it isn't. If that's the basis of your argument, it would be you that is "obviously wrong".
As I said above, just because "Many people on the mainland have NO issue with people flying around above them", this does NOT indicate that you have the right to access.
I'm not quite sure where you're getting this stuff.



But.. but.. there IS! The rule that says that landowners can keep you out of their private land! How are you missing that?



BUT THERE IS! In the sims that the landowner has said that you can't fly below 50m!
THIS is what you want to change!


This is where you are misunderstanding, I think.
You seem to be under the impression that the mainland IS, in fact your private playground and that you should be allowed access to fly your blimp... no that you have the RIGHT to fly your blimp through other people's properties.

You don't.


How about upping your draw distance? That way, you'll be able to see the builds you want to see without flying under 50m.

I'm a new landowner myself, and I have put up banlines. This is hopefully a temporary measure, and I apologize to my neighbours in advance; I merely wish to have the space to figure out how to make my place comfortable and look nice with as few prims as possible, and I really can't do that unless I can have some measure of solitude, ergo the banlines. Once that is accomplished, I'll rethink my security arrangements. Don't get me wrong; I'm by no means an antisocial harridan who hates visitors. If you wish to come and visit me (especially if you have wisdom to pass along regarding building or scripting or such), all you need to do is IM me before you come by, and if I'm not busy, chances are I'll offer you the TP myself, and have a nice comfy couch rezzed before you arrive. If I am busy, do come back later, just like in RL. What would be good is if banlines were more customizable. Yes, I want security, but not at the expense of my neighbor's view and peace of mind.

Well, the neighborly thing to do is to take down the banlines when you're not in-world--assuming any such time exists.

I want a slider in preferences - ban line visibility. 2 of them, 1 for when on your own land (or group owned land), and another when travelling.

If someone wanted visual peace while at home, turn that one doesn to 0, and wanted to see them when flying turn the travelling up to 100.

With two visibility bars such, no need to change it everytime.



Its their land. Maybe they don't want trespassers when they aren't on. Thats why I leave mine up, and not confusing my neighbours by not taking them up and down is the neighbourly thing to do, as well.

Instead of banlines, set your land to "Buy Pass"

That way instead of red line eyesores, they will be green.

I could set mine to 100 lindens for 5 minutes access?

Sure, set it based on how much privacy you want. The higher, the less intruders you will get.

I offered that before, as an alternative to ban lines and security and got shouted at like it was worse. Some just feel entitled to tavelling, and would shout at paying 1l.

Banks, I'll pay you 100l for 5 minutes on your land!

Just so I could say that I've been there! *grin*

Perhaps, but the comment was in response to someone who expressed specific concern for the effect of banlines on neighbors. And I dunno: as a neighbor of a few banline parcels abutting some of my properties, I'd greatly prefer a bit of confusion over having those lines active 24x7. But maybe some neighbors are especially easily confused.

As I think about this, I realize the problem is kind of isolated to tightly-packed areas full of small parcels. That makes the banline visibility problem extra tough for the neighbors (on a small parcel themselves, hence they'd have only a short 2m wide strip down the middle where banlines weren't visible, on a banline-surrounded 512). And I honestly don't think I've ever seen whitelist banlines on parcels larger than 1024; usually I see them on that "bonus" 512 that came with Premium. Maybe the "no trespassers" thing is actually more important on smaller parcels, but it sure makes the problem tougher.

I'm gonna save this to favorites and find out if you on next time that I am on the landowning account

No need to pay if I invite, I'm just trying to keep trespassers off.

Time to start a new thread this one is too long. Assuming everything is hunky-dory you may quote posts.