Visual effect of banlines on neighbours - a demonstration you can visit inworld (?)

Replies like this do nothing to find a compromise to the situation. Why don't you come up with something constructive to add, rather than behaving that way.

BWAH HA HA HA HAAAAAA...

This... from you? HAAAA

Cracking me up. Thanks for the laugh.

Oh, so we're just going to resort to being rude and dismissive and putting words in my mouth? Groovy. I wasn't sure if this was that kind of discussion.

And, as long as you're going to be ridiculous and call me "Teacher McLuhan", it was spelling, not grammar that I corrected.

The rest of this? Silly semantics games, moving the goalposts and dodging questions.

Whatever, dude

In ${SLDIR}/app_settings/viewerart.ini is the line:

noentrylines.tga 5d3e196b-fd4d-ada7-e4c1-99f8e9f1cfbf

I don't know what would be a good texture UUID to replace that with.

The hypocrisy makes me laugh. Why shouldn't I express that?

i think a nice solution, among others presented here, might be to have the ban lines show on the inside of the barrier. it is my opinion, i still think it's a good idea, and that's pretty much all there is to my angle. anything more that you try to turn it into is your personal issue which i am not interested in pursuing.

I'm gonna ignore the rest of the gibberish, but this is interesting.

I'm gonna ignore the rest of the gibberish, but this is interesting.

How is making banlines visible on the inside a solution to the problem?
As I see it, and you have evaded, it is nothing more than vincictiveness and "If I have to see ugliness, so should you."
Forcing someone to experience something negative is eye-for-an-eye retribution for something you don't like.

You have not explained how this is a solution to the problem, nor explained how this would help anything.

It IS a punishment and no amount of dancing will change that.

JIRA proposal to force parcel owners to view their own banlines:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2935][url=https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2935]https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2935[/url]

I created it to see what the general reaction is....

Well, JIRA doesn't give an option for a NAY vote

I'm gonna ignore the rest of the gibberish, but this is interesting.

How is making banlines visible on the inside a solution to the problem?
As I see it, and you have evaded, it is nothing more than vincictiveness and "If I have to see ugliness, so should you."
Forcing someone to experience something negative is eye-for-an-eye retribution for something you don't like.

You have not explained how this is a solution to the problem, nor explained how this would help anything.

It IS a punishment and no amount of dancing will change that.

You should calm down, mate. People are exploring possibilities here, while you seem to see only one. And I already have a banjo

Oh, Please! Stop with the hysteria already!!!

Don't you people get tired of constant bitching and whining about ban lines and everything else?
For the most part the same people who constantly complain about ban lines are the same ones who intrude unto other peoples land and homes. The same ones who you will find inside homes of total strangers using their beds and poses without permission and without invitation. The same ones you kick out and return the following day or the minute they can get back after being ejected.

You see so many invalid dumb excuses such as they bring property value down or they log you out if you run into them. Cut the BS already, it's gotten very tiresome and they've already closed threads such as this one. Yet, here we go again.

Ban lines are there for a reason so get over it already!!! Stay out of peoples property and you won't have any problem with the cold scary ban lines taking a bite out of you.

(Of course for any of this to work LL would have to fix up the everlasting Alpha "feature".

If you actually keep to the roads banlines don't affect your travel one bit

JIRA proposal to force parcel owners to view their own banlines:

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2935

I created it to see what the general reaction is....

I fly around a fair amount sometimes, though not in a vehicle and not at speeds that might cause the disasters described by people who do. I often stop on private parcels to see the view, but not to enter private buildings, use other people's stuff, or spy. Ban lines, as presently constituted, are indeed ugly and a pain in the butt. Unfortunately, they are also necessary in a lot of cases, or at least very desirable to the owner, so I respect that and live with them. Also, I find security orbs are a far bigger pain when I encounter them than banlines: You often don't know where the orb is and therefore don't know how best to get out of its range, and the warning times are almost always set too short.

More and more I like the idea of making it voluntary whether you choose to see the banlines and to be able to adjust the draw distance at which you do see them. Looks lto me like that solves averyone's problem.

The landowner gets his banlines, and can decide for him/herself whether to make them visible on the owner side, either to remind yourself whether they are up, or just because he gets off on seeing his spite fence, if that is what it is.

The neighbor could set his banline draw distance at 0.1 meter or zero if he chooses, since he will have a fair idea where they are anyway and will still get the little pop-up no-entry box if he forgets.

The traveller passing through gets to determine how soon he sees them, and can choose to make them all disappear when he is travelling higher than 50m above ground.

The sightseer would have the same sort of benefit - toggle on when moving, toggle off when he wants to stop and admire the view. Even better for him than the traveller, I should think.

The vehicle-user would still have his separate issue of getting crashed involuntarily, but at least would also be able to have fair warning of imminent crash when he wants it, and to be able to turn it off when he knows he won't need it. Also making banlines visible on maps and minimaps might help him, and so might make a good supplementary fix. It would be good to help vehicle-users get a fix for their crash problem, which affects them at apparently every sim crossing and at other times as well, but that is beyond the range of this thread; It needs its own thread.

So who is not served by making visibility of banlines entirely up to the observer?

Deliberate trespassers and griefers, obviously; people who want to use other people's stuff without getting permission; and especially the sort of mentality that gets sore when the owner shows up and wants them to get off his sexbed. Also, I suppose, clumsy Peeping Toms who have trouble handling remote camera viewing from outside parcel lines. Anybody else?

EDIT - Oh, I forgot. There are the people who just don't want any barriers to entry at all on general principle, like the troller in the other thread who was pretending to be a communist wanting SL to be a giant People's Commune. Now who else?

Nothing wrong with wanting to bump up my Prims!

Wasn't there a thread last week or early this week about what a pain it is that you can't see ban lines until you run into them because then you get booted?

Don't some houses come with locking doors? I see that advertised all the time. When my roommate and I first set up, if I wasn't at home she couldn't open any of the doors. We figured out the problem. Does the door lock feature only work when we're not home?

Nothing wrong with wanting to bump up my Prims!

Wasn't there a thread last week or early this week about what a pain it is that you can't see ban lines until you run into them because then you get booted?

Don't some houses come with locking doors? I see that advertised all the time. When my roommate and I first set up, if I wasn't at home she couldn't open any of the doors. We figured out the problem. Does the door lock feature only work when we're not home?