retroengeneering and idea stealing

Then write a new os for their servers... throw in a new client while your at it.

If it's because SL hasn't inspired me then I'm unlikely to be the only one, and the more people SL inspires the better it is doing.

Bite.

Ferrets run around in circles when they're excited. It's called the Weasel War Dance. Really. Look it up on Youtube.

You've passed the point of diminishing returns and have turned into a forum vampire.

You're the one choosing the returns. I'm arguing because I'm desperate for help or interest.

i have been reading and reading and still confussed as to what seems to be the problem..is it that the tools limit you or you have to work a little harder with the tools provided?

creativity should be something you know how to inspire on your own when you have writters block builders block or any kind of block..
if stepping back from it takign a deep breath works then that is what works..what i have found is that when i get where i have builders block it is just all the ideas i have been trying to slam together are spinning around in my head..a day or so .sometimes the same day it hits me and i am building like a couple of rabbits..

everyone has the same advantages here..we all have access to the same inside tools..
if you are lacking in creativity or in a slump then relax take a short break and let it come to you..
you can be shown ways to get inspired and some may work for you and some maynot..
only you know the perfect way to get your flow going..
good days or bad you sometimes just have to set other thoughts on the side line and dig in..
if you are worried about your builds looking different in different veiwers..you can have more than one veiwer..i used to work with the windlight veiwer before it was incorperated and would jump from there to the one without..

you make the adjustments needed if you want to compete or you care what others think..
to care means you do what you have to..waiting for it to be given will only keep you holding onto the tail of the kitty instead of scratching on the tree with the front paws..

you cannot sit on something saying this is mine and nobody else can touch it because right or wrong if there is not a market for it you just created one if it takes off..
soon as something is finished you have to get on improvements or something even more wild that may take off..
there are too many reasons not to get up and get to work when you hit a wall..it's knocking the wall down or finding the work around that makes or breaks a lot of people..

my dad says something to me and it usually works on those bad days..
he'll pick up the paper infront of me and say something like wow thats light..
i never thought i would see you beat by a piece of paper..
i guess it's easier to give up that get up..
he is good at knowing what will get me off my bummed butt lol

You are right and I specifically didn't want that knowing how it would go. I should have left it at my post about disagreeing with Yumi.

There is a saying that fits here:

You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.

But we can beat the hell out of him when he's dead.

I never said that - you read me incorrectly or are subverting my words to your purpose.

Posted for clarification purposes only.

Trolling was the word that sprang to my mind also.

lol My own version was if it won't drink then the silly sod will just die - a clear case of Darwinism at work

Ceka, it's not even really about the tools. It's about the communities of people who create things and help each other and care about what each other have created. I've never been in one and I would like to be. I suppose it is possible that they would no longer exist if all the creators now have to fight hammer and tongs every moment to hold any place in the market, bit if true that is a tragic development.

Ok the circular reasoning comment made me think of this:

Definition of Insanity - Put a man in a round room and tell him to go pee in the corner.

Keep doing what you are doing and you will always get the same result...I rest my case on this one. LOL

Btw - while ive been posting over the last few days ive created about 40 new things, rearranged my store some, sent out notices, repriced some things, helped folks with custom items,etc...if i sat in these forums all the time debating, id never get anything done lol.

sensual stoneworks is a great place with great classes and very creative crowd of people..
i think you would get along with them great if that is the crowd you are looking for

(Points to the post where she offered to follow instructions)

Yumi...
instructions for the day...
1) get inworld
2) accept my friendship offer
3) show me something you built and we can pick it apart... the good parts, the great parts and the parts that can be worked on

for me.. i have no great plan for creating. I am lucky in that my partner and i are together in RL as well as SL... we make mundane things and silly things, pretty things and serious things....

but .. this is how it all started

yure's sister watched a program on SL .. how ppl were making money through online businesses... we have always loved computers ... and so we came inworld .. with absolutely no gameplan .. and fell in love with the fact that SL is one big glob of imagination.. everything you see is born from someone's imagination.... even some shockingly ugly builds are inspirational.. and there are also countless amazing builds out there...

so we started camping.. then dancing, then I had this silly idea we could make money with a club and a mall... well the club paid all the tiers.. only because we danced.. and ppl tipped the hell out of us.. we bought a sim with the idea to rent out shops.. but i soon discovered that doesnt work unless you want to put in some seriously boring time marketing and ugh dealing with all sorts of ppl... and for wont of something to do i started to build.. and i sucked at it... but i plodded along.. and made some stuff.. then some more stuff.. found sculpties and got really interested in them. Invested great big chunks of time trying to work out how to make the damd things.. Maya and Blender made me want to cry... and then i found Zbrush... which was equally as hard, but i somehow felt more at home with it than any of the other programs...
I have tons of failed sculpts i never saved.. or saved and hated... but slowly i found .. i could make them if i wanted to. My building skills improved themself... to the point where i can make a lot of the things i want to ... and hopefully with time.. i will be able to make whatever I want.

there is no blueprint for making something.. you get an idea... and then you have to muddle through the logistics of how to build it... how to work within the limitations of SL and get it to look as close to whatever your original goal is.. and sometimes (often) the goal would shift and i would end up with something completely different... but not less pleasing.

as i went down my road of learning to build .. and texture.. my partner became more and more frustrated with SL... she is very competitive.. has less time to spend inworld.. is impatient and often her builds were not aligned properly.. and it was hard to have to tell her so often.. thats not right.. this needs to be straight .. so i started just praising her work and fixing it on the sly when she wasnt looking.. which was probably a really bad thing to do...

her sister.. on the other hand.. was a natural at building.. aligning prims and getting them to look real came easy to her.... but when it came to texturing.. she lacked the patience and the feel for it.. and lost interest relatively quickly... after about 6 months she quit SL .. just like that... and didnt want to talk about it.

yure too became more and more unhappy with SL.. me i was building and building.. i felt a huge responsibility that we had forked out all this money for a SIM and was determined to make it work... yure used to sit around online messing with prims or just doing nothing.. getting more and more frustrated while i worked and worked... she even started to irritate me with her inaction.. and she was definitely irritating herself...

one day we were trying to find just the right animation for a piece of furniture.. a time consuming and costly endevour... actually creating stuff is limited a lot to what you yourself can make or find to add to it... textures i had started making for myself... one animator told us he could make exclusive animations for us at 8000L each and showed us this one animation.. which looked like a static pose to me.. until the guy moved his hand a little ... i gave up on that piece of furniture and went off to build something else..

yure on the other hand.. went really quiet.. i thought she was playing games on her pc or watching a movie.. but she had downloaded Qavimator.. watched some tutorials and started to make animations... the next day,she surprsed me inworld with what she had made... she got poser .. and made more.. and never looked back. she found her niche.. and is very good at what she does... she has a talent for adding a human touch to her animations.. some are whimsical.. some even funny.. so now we often make stuff starting with an animation .. and i make the piece to suit it.. or i make the piece and she makes the animations to fit that.. we might not be famous... but we have a staunch following of ppl who love her work.. or my designs.. and we finally began covering the SIM tiers.. and then some.. getting better and better every month. Finally both of us are enjoying what we do.

Her sister came back to SL... and started making clothing.. then kimono with sculpted parts... and she also started enjoying what she does.

every day i hit google image search and type in random words.. lamp .. chair.. chaise.. resort.. anything.. when i watch movies and see something that catches my eye.. all these things give birth to other ideas... some work.. some dont.. I am still working on the limitations of my sculpting skills.. but they are getting better and i have made custom pieces for other creators.. who sell the stuff under their name and give me commission on sales.

and so things evolve day by day.. and we still are having an enormous amount of fun. I could never have done all this alone.. and i wont say it was easy... there were some terribly frustrating times.. but still ... when the mind starts to say .. what if.. i wonder how.. and the idea blossoms.. that, to me ... is what its all about.

first and foremost.. please yourself.. the rest should just follow on..

and like i said... get inworld and accept that friendship offer... after all.. every great journey begins with one small step......

Yay.. Yumis journey has begun...

I have a little case example of my own that is going on right now. But it is the reverse..

I wanted a tandem bicycle for my partner and I to ride. I only found two them. I bought one that was very expensive. To be honest it is horrible. (there was no demo to try) It's slowest speed is VERY fast, it uses a rather stock car script and is almost un-rideable. I am going to try to get a refund.

But I still wanted a nice tandem bike.. So I started building my own. My own design, my own scripts and animations. Now it will still look a lot like the one I bought. A tandem bike is a tandem bike after all. Now the creator would most likely say I "stole" her idea. But I did not, I am just creating a tandem bike. And I will end up selling a better product for a lot cheaper than she does. Such is the way of things.

such a little bitch, so yeah. LOL

nope. i make things all the time for myself. no one else will ever see them. being 'more inspired' indicates an initial inspiration. SL inspires creativity.

seriously. i think what you really need is to go to the doc for some happy pills. your mental low is beyond SL's capabilities.

SL did inspire you. you tried to create, and you are now speaking of learning to create. what do you call that?

This thread is the forum equivalent of From Dusk to Dawn. Just when you think you’re watching a cop thriller it turns into a zombie slasher. I really ought to check the forum more often.

My feeling is that Yumi, you are happy being miserable so more power to you. At least you’re passionate about playing verbal ping pong with people who would most likely debate you under the table, it’s still much healthier than not having any passion at all. And Love Hastings, you amused me so much that I’m afraid I’ll have to marry you at once.

And while the wedding preparation's on the way, I’d like to go back to the original point of the thread regarding content copyrights. I’m a content creator and I have thoroughly enjoyed every single moment of my short one year Sl life. I’m excited about creating new items now just as much as the first day I arrived, if not more. I know there’s content theft going on and I know there’s no way to stop it. But ultimately, the joy for me is in the creating and knowing people enjoy the end results. The money you earn is a complete bonus.

People who steal might be able to make a few quick lindens off you but they’ll have to live with their own lack of talent and lack of morals for the rest of their SL lives and beyond. I take pleasure with that thought.

Nope, I'm not.