I must not be doing something right. No one has tried to bite me yet.
Me neither. And I so want to whip out a stake and threaten them....meh.
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Alyx Sands
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12-27-2008 16:33
I must not be doing something right. No one has tried to bite me yet. Me neither. And I so want to whip out a stake and threaten them....meh. _____________________
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Emily Darrow
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12-27-2008 22:35
As a Mentor I see someone almost every time in an infohub or help welcome area with the only purpose is to bite new residents. Now in any other place someone with a little know how in SL will simply just say no. This isn't the case with new residents and specially with people from other cultures. I've had worried and upset residents thinking SL was some kind of vampire game or worse. It might be laughable to many but for these people it isn't a laughing matter and I for one feel for them. I personally would like to see a 24 hour ban for anyone using the bloodlines in a welcome area.
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LittleMe Jewell
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12-28-2008 00:00
Geez, this thread started over 2 months ago, was active for a few days and then laid dead until someone decided to necro it last week.
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Cael Merryman
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12-28-2008 02:24
Well, to each their own. Nobody forces a Bloodlines player to buy blood so I still don't see it as a marketing scheme. That's still like saying reselling land in SL is one too. Again, it's all about perspective. <and then a lot of stuff that makes it clear that this poster really believes it should all be per what he/she feels is right>. Let me blunter than I am on any other post about any other topic - Bloodlines consists of a bunch of really annoying shits going out of their way to annoy as many people as possible and making thin and transparently self-centered and self-serving arguments why they should be allowed to make all of SL their RP area. This argument hasn't been used by any other group, not even any of the other deliberate griefers. Bloodlines is a commercial griefing system and should be given strict marching orders by LL to change or removed. Period. |
Alexa Susanto
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12-28-2008 08:47
Someone asked me today for the first time, if they could bite me. I asked them if I could shoot them to the other side of the grid but they tp'd away. Shame. I won't opt out when I never opted in to begin with. All these irritating noobs can go to hell.
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Horny Binder
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12-29-2008 08:18
I really don't care if there are thousands that "play" the game right, Bloodline sis annoying and most of the players "don'T" play it right. I always file abuse reports if I get constantly harrassed after telling them to leave me alone.. and usually call the sim owner...
It make speople leave Sims, wich is indeed bad for the owner of the store you were about to spend money in... AS a store owner I would constantly ban people wearing a bloodlines attachment... If someone has a script that lets me do that please IM me thinkmany shop owners would be very happy to have such a device as people tend to TP away when they get harrassed in crowded stores... |
Konu Magic
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12-29-2008 08:24
I am a bloodlines player and I agree with your anger. When i was a bewbie, i got bitten within the first 10 minutes of being alive in SL. I didn't know any better and accepted thinking someone was going to help me out. I have never, will i ever, try to bite someone without speaking to them first and explaining to them what it is. And to be honest, the game has gotten so out of hand that it isn't even worth playing anymore. Since I began playing, i tried to "hunt". Gave up after a little bit becuase I realized what i was being taught was exactly what was done to me.
So, I do not bite anyone nor do i even ask anymore. If someone comes to me and asks to join, I explain to them everything i have learned and let them decide. I would rather RP being a vamp on a sim than have the past actions of others playing the game i am in be held against me. Mind you, the reputation has been earned. |
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12-29-2008 10:28
I really don't care if there are thousands that "play" the game right, Bloodline sis annoying and most of the players "don'T" play it right. I always file abuse reports if I get constantly harrassed after telling them to leave me alone.. and usually call the sim owner... So you know "most of the players don't play right"? You've obviously checked the sims where this is used to come to this conclusion? Let me blunter than I am on any other post about any other topic - Bloodlines consists of a bunch of really annoying shits going out of their way to annoy as many people as possible and making thin and transparently self-centered and self-serving arguments why they should be allowed to make all of SL their RP area. This argument hasn't been used by any other group, not even any of the other deliberate griefers. Bloodlines is a commercial griefing system and should be given strict marching orders by LL to change or removed. Period. I got orbited once by someone wearing a DCS HUD in a non-combat sim, perhaps we should have everyone with an orbiter or DCS HUD removed from SL too. _____________________
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Gabriele Graves
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12-29-2008 10:50
So you know "most of the players don't play right"? You've obviously checked the sims where this is used to come to this conclusion? I got orbited once by someone wearing a DCS HUD in a non-combat sim, perhaps we should have everyone with an orbiter or DCS HUD removed from SL too. Anyone who visits roleplaying sims can verify this out very easily by asking or viewing their policy on Bloodlines. I beleive with CCS the policy ban is CCS system wide. Lastly nobody has felt the need to come up with a bot client specifically for enforcing the ban of DCS or any other combat/roleplaying HUD like they have felt the need for the Bloodlines HUD (BuffyBot). |
Treasure Ballinger
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A question........
12-29-2008 14:00
Interesting... Yesterday was the first day I or any of my alts was ever approached by any vampire, outside of a vampire-theme sim, with a request to accept a bite animation. It was in a well-known AO maker's store, where lots of people were popping in to accept a free gift for clients. Nothing to do with vampires, and I bet they were hoping some folks would accept the dialog, expecting it to be a product delivery notice and not an "attack". It was one of my less commonly used alts that they 'tried to bite'. I merely declined the request without comment, and teleported away as soon as I had concluded my business in that store. I recommend that approach for most people. Out of respect for the store's owners, I didn't respond in character... That particular alt is a female anthro wolf, who is also able to become a VERY large werewolf. And I admit, I was rather tempted to shift to her werewolf form, say "You're too late. Now it's MY TURN!", and launch the werewolf's "Shred victim" attack. Tempted, but I refrained... And so..........you were there, in proximity to the person who sent you a bite request, at the AO store. But, one doesn't have to be in proximity? One can be 'bitten' through chat, or notecards? (Chose your post to ask this question because you sound like you know what you're talking about). So if you accept a notecard, or see a bite request in chat, you've been bitten? Thanks, just trying to understand this. |
Mira Kalinakov
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12-29-2008 14:51
Why are they out in the sunlight? That's what I want to know.
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Ceera Murakami
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12-29-2008 15:46
And so..........you were there, in proximity to the person who sent you a bite request, at the AO store. But, one doesn't have to be in proximity? One can be 'bitten' through chat, or notecards? (Chose your post to ask this question because you sound like you know what you're talking about). So if you accept a notecard, or see a bite request in chat, you've been bitten? Thanks, just trying to understand this. What I saw was something like one would expect as a permission dialog for a hug attachment, but this dialog indicated the attachment's name was "Fangs", and the text in the dialog said that it was asking permission to bite me. I didn't recognize the name at all, and have no interest in being bitten. I declined the dialog, finished what I was doing, and TP'ed away. There were 20+ people in the room, in various states of rezzing in, and lag was REALLY bad, because everyone who was a store customer was trying to come collect their Christmas gift from the store. I wasn't going to wade through the lag any further to try to determine who the "bite offer" had come from. I'm not sure if it even had anything to do with the "Bloodlines" vampire people. Just that someone with a vampire attactment tried to bite me, and I rebuffed them. No clue if "biting" can be done through chat or notecards. I would expect not, but I don't hang out with Vampire types, so I can't answer that. The last time I spnd any time in a Vampire-theme sim it was because I had a store in their sim, and the Vampire RP people there (who were doing White Wolf style vampire RP), were quite courteous to those who didn't want to "play their game". Out of courtesy to them, I acted in their sim as if I was a rather solitary werewolf (which exists in their RP, but is somewhat off the main theme). But I didn't interact much, except to attend a few dance and costume contests in their club. I didn't get enough sales of my furniture and clothes there to be worth keeping the store open more than a few months, and I never went back there after I closed the store. _____________________
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Skell Dagger
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12-29-2008 16:05
And so..........you were there, in proximity to the person who sent you a bite request, at the AO store. But, one doesn't have to be in proximity? One can be 'bitten' through chat, or notecards? (Chose your post to ask this question because you sound like you know what you're talking about). So if you accept a notecard, or see a bite request in chat, you've been bitten? Thanks, just trying to understand this. Just because the bite request is received (via notecard) or read (in chat) doesn't mean you've been bitten. The only way that I'm aware of is via a blue dropdown flag: " ![]() "Fangs [Thirst::Bloodlines] 2.8: (Avatar Name) would like to give you a Vampire bite. This will register you with The Thirst::Bloodlines system, and you'll get a FREE pair of bite marks. If you accept the bite, you don't have to play, and if you get bitten, you don't have to drink a potion to undo it. Say Yes to accept!" You have to actually click the 'Yes' button on that blue dropdown flag to get bitten. _____________________
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12-29-2008 16:11
"Fangs [Thirst::Bloodlines] 2.8: (Avatar Name) would like to give you a Vampire bite. This will register you with The Thirst::Bloodlines system, and you'll get a FREE pair of bite marks. If you accept the bite, you don't have to play, and if you get bitten, you don't have to drink a potion to undo it. Say Yes to accept!". That's a more elaborate message than I saw, but I may not have bothered to scroll down and see all that text. Maybe the one who tried to bite my alt had some fangs from Xcite or some other kink shop? *shrugs* _____________________
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Loki Ball
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To help with vampire spammers.
12-29-2008 16:52
This sends a good solid message to vampire spammers. I've made a little tool for free that people are welcome to get from my freebie wall at my store. Its just an attachment you wear. It has instructions on what to do. Its more humorous than anything. Just decline anything that the vampire spammers do, then type... /give blood to (insert first name) or /offer blood to (insert first name). Then sit back and wait for them to accept. They'll see a chat message that says... "loki has offered you blood.. press yes to accept, and they will get a blue pop up asking them to accept, decline, or mute. Once they hit accept, they get whats coming to them. Its cute, its fun, its free, you can't go wrong with that. I just got sick and tired of seeing another person who is a creator not give a junk about anyone else in game but their own product and customers. I also think its a bit ridiculous that they can't do something about it. Like making it only work on group members who are wearing a certain attachment or something. Not too hard to script really I wouldn't think. Seems like a no brainer to me. But then its all about becoming viral with your product now isn't it. lol. Anyway for those interested pick it up for free at my freebies section or IM me in game.
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Gabriele Graves
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12-29-2008 17:04
Why are they out in the sunlight? That's what I want to know. Firstly in many vampire myths and legends, whilst the vampire is a creature of the night and prefers it to conceal themselves and their activities, do not claim that daylight will harm a vampire. Yes, daylight is mostly avoided if possible but even then there are many legends going back centuries where vampires live amongst people and walk in the daylight. There are a few allusions to this even in popular fiction of our time. In Anne Rice's vampire series the more powerful a vampire gets the less effect the sun has upon them. The book and movie Twilight has vampires walking around during daylight. There are other examples, these are by no means the only examples. Secondly and more specific to SL roleplay, it would be extremely boring to be a vampire and have to avoid day. For a start many private regions override the default SL time of day settings and so when teleporting around you could never be sure whether you will find a day or night period. Even if a vampire were to consigned themselves to mainland, people from all over the world with vastly different daylight periods are in SL at different times. Those whose daylight periods are often outside the US daylight times and people override their time of day settings in their viewer so they are not always in SL during a night period. For them their time in SL is day time even though SL time might be in 1am or there abouts. It would be impossible for a vampire to avoid the personal day settings of every viewer. Just as it would be impossible for a person who logs in on US SL daytime only to play the role of a vampire. So clearly some flexibility is required when dealing with SL specifically and it should not even be assumed that a person is roleplaying a vampire that has a big problem even with daylight as SL forces a person to seek a solution to the problem. One popular solution is that the vampire will set their viewer to midnight settings permanently in order to "cast a veil of darkness" around themselves in order to be protected. I have seen this ridiculed many times and yet it is a simple solution and answer to a very difficult issue. Also take note please that the effects of daylight in that are described in some myths and fictions never discuss the effect in enough detail and omit how it is suppose to work in global terms where essentially it is always daytime somewhere. In closing on this particular subject, some suspension of disbelief must take place where the situation demands it in SL, otherwise some things would just not be possible. For example: Do we complain that all the lovely plants we see in SL never seem to get nor need watering for the most part? No, we conveniently forget about it because of the limitations of SL and to maintain a good fantasy of a healthy ecosystem. |
Loki Ball
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12-29-2008 17:07
I find it funny that in a role play you would initiate anything with a dialog box. Doesn't seem too much like RP to me. Seems more like a lazy way of just getting popularity votes by getting people to hit accept. I mean thats what it is when it boils down to it isn't it? Popularity points or some kind of point system thats suppose to make you look like a better... umm. role player I guess? I dunno I'm confused on how it could even be enjoyable. Is it from the teen grid?
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Tini Jewell
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maybe another way to avoid bites....
12-29-2008 17:07
i'm not reading all of the postings before this...but i had a thought...someone's profile that i recently read had said they would sell their blood to the highest bidder! who ever bid the highest amount could bite that neck! maybe it will catch on & they'll get the hint without sending you that little notice asking to bite you.
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Horny Binder
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12-29-2008 17:25
Well I do it in a different way. I think telling those Spampires that they sud not use the HUD in my store or area should be enough. I made a little texture that I will hang in my store and I hope that the people accept it... It is not harrasing any Bloodliners it is just saying PLease don't use your Hud in my area...
IM me in world if you want it or go to my store and touch the sign you get the texture for free if you wanna use it or get it here and upload it: ![]() P.S.: as Logins are currently disabled I can't set the sign up right now but will later if the Linden God lets me logon again ![]() EDIT: Placed the sign, you can touch it to get the texture, or simply copy the texture vendor to take a copy ![]() |
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12-29-2008 18:41
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Mira Kalinakov
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12-29-2008 19:54
I am seeing this question a lot and think that I should try to address this point generally [...] So, to cut a long post short, they have none of the iconic vampire weaknesses? Apart from a cheap garlic necklace and an overwhelming urge to spam anyone and every... I mean feed on human blood regularly? But I guess they still get all the awesome coolness? That's... that's amazing. |
Baloo Uriza
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12-29-2008 19:56
So, to cut a long post short, they have none of the iconic vampire weaknesses? Garlic is effective. Please IM me in world and I'll send a garlic necklace your way. |
Mira Kalinakov
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12-29-2008 20:12
Garlic is effective. Please IM me in world and I'll send a garlic necklace your way. I’d like an opt-out steak, mallet and BBQ fuel instead, rather than this lame garlic necklace effort. I’d even pay for it. The option to attack any Bloodlines spampire that ‘wants to animate my avatar’ without even a hint of roleplay, and kill them in a spectacularly violent way, the finale being them burned to ashes as I light my victory cigar over their screaming corpse. This would be more in keeping with the theme too, since (apparently) it’s a roleplay thing. Spampires will have to choose victims carefully, and roleplay out the whole bite scenario to consenting victims - wine and dine, seduce, reveal their true motive, sucky sucky, etc, rather than just pressing a key with their grubby little fingers and spamming everyone for point reward. Final death if they pick the wrong victim. Think about it - a game that’s fun for both sides of this dispute, and a little roleplay danger element for the zombie mosquito hordes who are otherwise invulnerable. |
Gabriele Graves
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12-29-2008 21:04
So, to cut a long post short, they have none of the iconic vampire weaknesses? Apart from a cheap garlic necklace and an overwhelming urge to spam anyone and every... I mean feed on human blood regularly? But I guess they still get all the awesome coolness? That's... that's amazing. I said that many of the vampire folklore tales do not put vampires in danger from sunlight. I would reread my last post if that was in anyway unclear. That does not mean no weaknesses, a good role-player will perhaps role-play a diminished ability to feed whilst out in sunlight or reduced strength, agility etc if they feel that a vampire should react in some way to sunlight. A good role-player of any type of character will not role-play an all powerful, without any weaknesses, character. Garlic again is also another of those things you find in one mythos and not in another. Just as is sensitivity to hallowed ground, a weakness to a particular type of wood for stakes (rosewood), rose briar thorns, running water etc. There are a million of these, some based on the earliest folklore and legends and some made up for a particular story and have caught on because of that. You see its iconic, except it is not, unless you ignore the majority of older folklore and focus only on the old vampire films of the early 20th century (such as Hammer's Dracula with Christopher Lee, Nosferatu with Claus Kinski and the rather formula following films that came later). They were just a phase in vampire story telling and often featured things that were departure from even what is written in Bram Stokers older story. It is very telling that the more modern stories are moving away from sunlight being a killer to vamps again. Just like with a lot of other supernatural creatures there are many variants from various sources and no "right" or "wrong" to roleplay one. There is only personal choice in the end. Lastly you seem to have misread my post which was about vampire roleplay in *general* (and I did state that) and not Bloodlines which I do not consider at all to be the basis of vampire roleplay. |
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12-29-2008 21:22
sick of vampire bits join the sicko fisting group
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