New Xstreet forums open

No one can stop anyone from posting, aside from a Mod. If the person is just opinionated and it bothers someone the problem is theirs.



It isn't anyone else's job to "call people on their conduct" unless they are a Moderator. Or a Linden (same thing.) Especially someone who's been in a community, such as SL or a forum, for a day or two.

Most people can take care of themselves. It's this mistaken feeling others have that they must grandstand and run to the rescue that MAKES cliques. Just leave people alone, if you want a peaceable kingdom.

Good gods. Does that mean that websites set up by large SL merchants and land barons can't be linked? That broadsides Anshe Chung, Caledon, the Land Ninjas, the FairChangs, and probably thousands of others!

Well, SL residents still need a way to find those outside links. I am going to put a notecard giver on my land, with a big sign saying something like, "Want to REALLY find out what's happening in SL? Click Here!" It will give out a notecard full of URLs to external forums, external merchant websites...any and everything to do with SL that isn't actually on a Linden-owned web page.

Send your URLs to: [email]lindalkidd@verizon.net[/email], along with a ONE LINE description of what your web page is all about.

No charge. (NOTE: The Management Reserves the Right to Change Its Mind About That)

That's a lot of work, Lindal.

Wouldn't it be easier to let an alternative forum do that?

Many hands, you know...

I'm tentatively betting on slapt.me, and wondering whether the XStreetSL refugees have gone there.

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We have a growing community of merchants

Email sent also have a look here if you have space on your land that is

http://www.slapt.me/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=43

Yeah, but where is Facepalm Ferret? <.<

For about the first time ever, I have to admit myself defeated.

I don't think it matters if someones been in a forum for 1 day or 5 years. If people are rude then it can effect the community and how a forum runs. Its pretty basic and simple really. I think the mentality that because someone has been here longer means their input is more valid isn't necessarily true.

My main concern is that due to the behavior of others it stops others from posting in a community. SL is a very large place and these forums are the "second life" forums. This isn't a private off shoot site, this is the actual Second Life forums. I think everyone should have the ability to voice their opinion without having some of the immature distractions and pettiness that continued to plague both forums.

I agree with what your saying about most being able to take care of themselves. On the other hand you have people that have opinions who don't spell well, or can't perhaps express themselves in a way that everyone can perhaps understand. You can even get some people that are on different levels of understanding in SL. Or even have people with extreme polar views. Not to mention peoples mental stability differences. Those are also a large group of people in SL and it seems that as a community people should respect each other a little more. Not everyone has the ability to defend themselves from pointless attacks from others. Nor should they continue to have to.

I think it is the place of the community to call people on their behavior if its rude or out of line. There is a set of rules that LL has put in place that should be followed in these forums. I see them not being followed quite often and the threads just left running. There doesn't seem to be much moderation at all. To the opposite actually. Seems they've left people to kinda run things themselves.

The problem with calling out bad conduct, is that you become part of the bad conduct, and part of the trainwreck yourself, in the process.

I do believe that people who want to express contrary opinions have definitely been taken out of the mix....simply by not barging in to post, or by becoming weary of the process involved in seeing their opinion through during the trainwreck.

I read a post on another forum recently about a fellow who said that he has become a meaner person by trying to post in the forum.....and I understand that. Just not worth becoming that way, in order to express your opinions. Once you've crossed that line....very difficult to cross back over.

Hehe yeah I've seen that happen to people on other forums. It does leave an impression thats for sure. I find myself just continuing to post whether people are mean to me or not. I get more of a chuckle out of it myself. I just like to see as many variations of opinions as I can I guess than what I see sometimes.

arms too short

That's not surprising. Read any lightly-moderated forum or message board and you can see people being rewarded for posting vicious insults, unsupported claims, and taunts, with smileys, 'hugs', etc. Apparently the prize being sought by apprentice thugs is membership in what they see as some sort of dominant clique.

It's human nature, sadly. Or at least, the nature of humans who don't happen to have much of a center.

(What's different about forums is that you can see the growth of thuggery in particular individuals, preserved right there on the page.)

An excellent idea, Lord. I intend to have an XStreetSL and Lindex ATM on the property, and I would be delighted to have a slapt.me terminal as well.

We're still setting things up, but I'll be sending in the paperwork within the week.

Not a matter of "if", hon... but "when".You really should take some time to read up on some of the larger historical threads here. We *have* called them on it. Repeatedly, loudly! We even drew Blue Linden himself in here and engaged him in dialog over it. It all got us nowhere. LL will do whatever it wants to do, customer feedback be damned.

- A working forum running on real forum software.
- Inworld group chat that works
- Inworld local chat that doesn't lag
- Lindens that listen to their customer base

When you get to the top of a thread, there's a link on the left for "Print Preview".

The resulting page has no sidebar and might suit some people better for reading.

And LL had more then one opportunity to hire Strife as a Linden which would have been a win/win situation for them and us. Instead, after two years of honoring him as a most valuable asset, they decided to tell him not to let the door hit him in the ass when he got tired of begging for help here.

That would be nice except for the fact that LL has been asking for feedback on the forum off and on for going on 3 years now. This does not bode well as every suggestion so far has been completely ignored. Now I see no comments at all from Blue who was the last to ask for feedback and instead it looks like Blondin is in charge.

Well, that's it, then. If Blondin is in charge, the "official" forums as we know them are coming to an end. I don't think they can survive the level of grossly incompetent handling represented by the same person who was the front man for the Zindra debacle.

I guess it is time to look for a new home. Any forums looking for a old, grizzled Dragon? <.<

Agreed. We've heard enough empty words from LL on this matter. I thought maybe Blue held out some hope on that last go round...I spent a good bit of time talking to him myself, but it was for naught. I did get a bear from him, though.

Come have a look at the www.slapt.me forums small but growing daily and we love Dragons

Skins or color change on website. Teal-on-white is painful to read.

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Vote for this instead:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1299
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Yes and your point is?

Dup of mine: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-1299

Someone closed and linked already, thanks though.

Have I mentioned that JIRA's search is tricky at best