Broadly offending content ~ what is it for *you*?

I'm not claiming to be the victim of anything here, you're pathetic attempt to transpose your emotional hangups on me notwithstanding.



Yes, that's what people usually do when attacked. They respond. It's an interesting concept.

If you didn't appreciate her RESPONSE to YOUR attack, then you shouldn't have posted YOUR attack in the first place, ya know?

Your belief, as stated in the title and the second to the last sentence in your original message, was all that was required to fulfill the purposes of this thread, as Desmond posted it. Everything else you said in that message (and it was a LOT more than 'a beach', btw) was an unnecessary attack.



Sure, but nowhere was it requested or required that the negativity be targeted towards specific individuals or specific groups of individuals, even as thinly-veiled insinuations. The negativity was meant to be framed ONLY in terms of concepts or generalities.

You can't claim that you didn't know or understand that, either; I don't buy the notion you are that socially retarded. I simply know better.

Less than 1700, actually. (>_<

Yes, EX members.... just like any other ageplayer in SL who's caught ANYWHERE, only difference is it's me banning them from my sim vs LL banning them from SL. And.. I'll continue to ban people from my sim that break any rules that I have, which go above and beyond LL's own policies.

And you think the guilty are going to post? Even to say "no I'm not"? The guilty do not want to draw attention to themselves. Also quite a few of the ex-members HAVE been banned from SL as well.



Again, "common sense" that's not worth anything for either prosecution or defense of anything at all because it's a variable.

And Wel lcould this also possiby be bewcause you have a beef with the mentor group itself as well? I've heard that you're a former mentor who was put in to how shall I say it.. "forced retirement". However I can't state that as fact cause it's like all your info.. hearsay, I didn't witness this myself, and have no 1st hand knowledge of it, and even if I did it wouldn't be my place to post why. And since it's secondhand info it's just a story to me. I don't even know if you ever were a mentor. For all I know it was a blatant lie.

Your intelligence is questioned when you apply yourself to a post and then complain its attracted people to you.
You posted in the Xstreet forums confirming it, genius.

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And how would you know that Immy? remember we're not smart cause Lias said so...and well She's ALWAYS right.

DISCLAIMER: The preceeding comment should be taken as pure sarcasm and in no way any claim that Lias is right.

You referred to a post in the XStreet forums which was deleted because it named names. If you read it, then you knew who they were because names were named.

Oh wait, you can wriggle out of that one by saying a "friend" told you about the post, so you didn't actually read it, and that friend never had the occasion to mention the details of that post to you, either. Riiiiiiight.

Sadly, it doesn't change the fact that you called them out, and they responded, still making you the source of the problem. You threw the first punch. Even if you did so wearing a blindfold, you STILL threw the first punch. Accept your responsibility for it or not, it doesn't matter; the facts are plain to see.



What does that have to do with the price of Lindens in Dreamland? It was clear enough to draw out the people you wanted to spar with. I'll note that you failed to "clarify" that you weren't attacking them from early on, but instead sparred with them anyway. If it was so general and not meant to target them, why didn't you say so early on, instead of reinforcing your attack? The only rational answer is that you fully intended to call them out and make a scene in the forum over it.

I could post that I was Napoleon too. But again, Hearsay, secondhand information.. nothing you actually saw happening yourself.

Do you hear yourself? Those adults aren't responsible for their postings. I am.
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Apparently, you don't, since that's not what I said.

Nice try, though.

Please continue.

Lias you offended a geat number by insisting that myself, Immy, my group. my beach, and nudists in general were all pedophiles.

If we go by your thinking and twisting of thins to your liking (and these are examples folks of how far this can be taken, not facts.)

ALL Chriistian groups should be abolished because the bible promotes incest due to the story of Adam and Eve.

ALL Muslim groups should also be banned because Mohammad married a 9 year old according to the Koran so therefore they condone pedophelia.

All furries/dragons/animals should be banned as that can be though of as bestiality.

All weapons should be banned as that promotes RL violence and murder.

All gorean groups should be banned due to promoting abuse and slavery.

ALL sex should be banned from SL because there ARE people who have never had sex IRL in SL

ALL women should wear full clothing at all times in the open with only their eyes showing As not to offend Muslims(oh wait thye're banned already for pedophelia)

All child av's should be banned because SL is for 18 and over. This includes any av that is not 7 feet tall and if male hung like a horse and built like Mr Universe. Females would need to have a breast size of no less than 38DD

etc...etc.

ANYONE with the slightest problem can start a witch hunt.

I'm not part of any of the above, nor would I persecute anyone for anything like that...Howver some HAVE with some of the examples.

Someone been showing you more pics of the RL me?

You identified yourself with an anonymous post. That was your choice.
It only turned into a witch hunt when you identified yourself as the Wiccan in question.

I said I did not like nude child avatars interacting with nude adult avatars and you morphed that into an attack on nude beaches. And that is your choice.

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Yes it did morph into an attack on them when you accused family nudists of being pedophiles.

Also use Treasure to say she backs you... She says she feels a certain way, and she just won't go there. She's not trying to get ppl to post blogs.. etc about it... she stated her opinion, and that's that...

While I may not agree with her opinion, as she doesn't agree with mine.. That doesn't make her wrong.. it just makes it right for her beliefs.
However even she's distanced herself from you because you took it TOO far.

Witch Hunt, Crusade, Inquitistion.. same thing.

You made that assertion.

People sent me what they consider evidence of pedophilia on your Beach. I even contacted you about when I received it. I even posted I was dropping it. But when they sent me your group chat where you talked nonsense about me to your group members (and you confirmed this) I felt you were not really sincere. These people expected me, since I was so verbal, to dosomething with this evidence. I told them I did nto want the evidence and they should do as others have done - blog it. There are tons of blogs about pedophilia in SL. If none of it is true then why even concern yourself? I mean, a screenshot is a screenshot. The text may have been doctored but a picture is worth a thousand words.

You should not have taken it all. You should have left it alone and let it fade (as others have suggested to you in this thread). For someone so agahast about a witchhunt you certainly continue to make sure your the object of said hunt.
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Talarus is right; and you are right too. I heavily qualified, and have many caveats on my 'agreement' with Lias; in general concept, my statement would be: I am offended (broadly, highly) by pedophilia. Period. But you see, that wasn't ever the question, although 'that' is what I basically answered, before this thread was derailed and destroyed by this debate. OP was talking about SL, not RL, in questioning what people find offensive..

I do not know the beach, the beach owner, the situation there, the prior post on another forum, or, Lias, for that matter. What I said was not even an appropriate answer to Des' actual question, and for that I apologize to Des. There are lots of places I don't go in SL, for many reasons. It's an opinion, always my choice (as your choices are yours) and I would bury it under caveats that it 'sounds' like a place I'd have no interest in, for 'my' SL journey. That was rather early on in this thread, and before it turned into what it now is. If I came by now, for the first time, and read this thread, I wouldn't post to it at all.

So to clarify my 'agreement', I am offended, personally (morally, viscerally) by pedophilia. It's not an answer to the question this thread asked, which refers to SL. When it comes to this kind of thing, name calling (narrow minded, etc) doesn't phase me, it's fine, really, I don't mind. At the end of the day, I am the one who has to look in the mirror and say You're ok, and you were the best person you could be, today.

Bottom line is: Withdrawn. I answered a question I was not asked, and had no idea what this thread would turn into, at the time.

Even pictures can be doctored.

And others have told you drop it.. not me. nowI CAN go back and show where you called nudists in general "pedophiles".

And I haven't really made many friends out of this thread. However seems you made enemies.. Me.. I neither like or hate you.

So after I posted my dislike about SL - I did not assume it would turn into such an issue. Child Nude avatars interacting with adult nude avatars. That is my dislike.

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Thank you for saying it this way. Was that so hard? (^_^)

Exactly, that's all that needed to be said at the start and the last 30 pages woulde never happened.

Lias while I don't share your feeling, I DO respect your right to feel that way.

I would like to consider this a fitting end. And, IBTL. (=_=)

At last...

22.86cm!!!

That's what I said before - and I pointed out that this takes place on a beach in SL owned by a mentor - There is no problem with that.

There was no reason for Imnotgoing to say this statement was false or for ASCIIrider to turn it into a debate about being nude.



JoJoGirl's Dolcet accusation was made in this thread- if your not guilty of something you do not spend 30 pages clarifying terms and defending yourself.


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Alright. WHO has been showing you the pics????

*whispers* Ashe1