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Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
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04-30-2006 17:19
Bare rose is awesome.
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Palomma Casanova
Free Dove Owner
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04-30-2006 17:28
It is funny how people nominate ladies that by in fact when you ask them to help in something important like helping a new resident, they say NO because they are too busy being powerful and "important"...
Does that make them "the best powerful individual"? turning down helping others, people that are new and at the point where they were before the became famous? I dont know... And true... using camping chair, slingo and all the ingo's doesn't make anyone powerful... _____________________
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Dennis Bertone
Whitewater Nutcase
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04-30-2006 17:36
Well, since getting L$ for dwell is done with you will not see as many camping chairs out there. Where do you come up with that? Camping chairs boost traffic, dwell is/was nothing. Camping chairs are not going anywhere till popular places is not based on traffic. Look at popular places, all of them, utilize some form of camping. Pretty sad. I got my 20K traffic this weekend by having FUN, not paying zombies ![]() I would love to challenge all the other club owners to remove the camping chairs and money dance pads from your land and let's see where traffic sits after a couple of days ![]() |
Gabriel Commons
Panda Press prophet
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
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Vivianne OFlynn
04-30-2006 17:53
Not sure if you're all familiar with this fine woman. Don't quite think of her in terms of "power" but she is, by far, the finest designers I have yet seen. She spends most of her time in her sim so that she can provide one-on-one customer service.
She designs foods and flowers and this stuff looks glorious. With her friend, Div Epoch, doing some scripting to add a soft-touched accent, they put out some fantastic stuff. |
Jonquille Noir
Lemon Fresh
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04-30-2006 17:58
I didn't base any of my nominations on whether someone colored here for a living. I do it, and I certainly don't consider myself a power player in SL. (Though I do think considering Coco Chanel a tailor or seamstress would be a bit silly, so being involved with fashion doesn't exlude a woman from being powerful, either.) Nor does their SL bank account have anything to do with my nominations. I'd bet Rosa Parks didn't have a big fat nest egg, yet I'd consider her a powerful woman.
I chose my nominations based on what I've seen them influence others to rise to. Positive influence is more powerful than money. There have been a lot of sweeping statements made in this thread, and I was just addressing one of them. Hence my presence. My point was how power is being measured. IRL a woman making clothing would more than likely be considered a seamstress or homemaker, and not a powermonger. Some of the women mentioned in this thread are actually men, and one of the most influential female members in SL plays a male avatar. This woman who plays a male avie has testified before Congress. Others share my experience and spent years in Washington DC with the movers and shakers. Guess my image of a powerful woman extends beyond playing house in a virtual world game, but I realize to many this is their total world, first and second and to those people this is power. _____________________
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Gauisus Speculaas
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Stacey Sugar, ya'll
04-30-2006 18:00
I read through all these postings and probably missed it. Has no one mentioned the Sugar? Well, I do. Not ashamed to admit that she's created the coolest hangout for Barbies and all their demented fans as well as making available videos for rental. Who else is so powerful in the ways that so manipulate male needs? I'm all for the newbie helpers and the kind and gentle mentors but, ya'll, the Sugar is the bomb. I don't care if she _is_ British....
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Gwinivere Grayson
This side up
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04-30-2006 18:45
The sad part is, I see several of you mentioning a thief and you don't even realize it. I don't care how popular or "powerful" people think she is, she takes advantage of others that have had good faith in her by turning around and using their textures in her work. I am very close to someone she wronged but she feels that because this person is well liked by a few close friends it would be more harmful to "out" the thief. If I could name her right now I would because she doesn't deserve the credit she's given.
My point here is, be careful of the people you have so much faith in and always keep watch. Just because someone has a "big" name in SL doesn't mean they got that name with their own hard work. The thief knows who she is and she knows the people she's taken advantage of are too damn nice to make her pay for what she's done. So if you're reading this there are those of us who know your true nature. Sorry but I had to bring this up, it just makes me ill to see her name here at all. When you consider power, think about what that includes when it comes to Second Life. What do they add to Second Life? How much influence do they have with people, connections, etc? Are they genuine and do they work hard? What is their reputation like? What kinds of projects have they been or are involved in? These are just a few questions to consider. _____________________
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Trinity Serpentine
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04-30-2006 19:07
Perhaps the term "powerful" could be replaced with something else. The words "dynamic", "skillfull" and "talented" come to mind. There are many dynamic women in SL. With over 200,000 people here, I'm sure there are many many that may never even visit the forums, their friends may never visit the forums, but does that make them any less dynamic? Hardly.
I posted earlier in this thread half in jest. Do I feel myself as a powerful woman of sl? Nope. Do I feel I'm talented in what I do and dynamic in personality? Well, yes, I do. I'm sure so are all of the other women that have been mentioned in this thread. Here are but a few examples of what I feel are truly inspiring women: Jonquille Noir: A truly dynamic and talented individual and always well-spoken when sharing her thoughts. Luth Brodie: An excellent animator and a warm heart. Madame Maracas: The founder of RadioRadio. A strong business woman with a rappier wit and the voice of a sex goddess. Are any of these women ever mentioned on anyone's top 10? Does it matter? Do they base who they are and what the do against how they live their Second Lives? Not one iota. But to me, they epitomize what it is to be a strong woman of SL. *leaves her two cents on the counter* _____________________
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LilMissy Fox
The Perfect BRAT!
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Jade Opel.... Sherry Case
04-30-2006 19:11
I'm not sure powerful is the right word ... but
Both of these women have gone beyond on many occations for me. Jade.... her houses are absolutely wonderful, and even tho she wanted to strangle me so many times when I was learning to put down houses on my land or when I would mess up my textures... she was such a god sent and never once complained. (least not to me...LOL) Sherry Case...... Is truely an angel in my book. Her talent is unmeasured....her houses and furniture ......... continually bring me back to her store. Her customer service towards me has always been the upmost pleasant and if I have ever had a prob with anything of hers......... without hesitation she was on it. I truely appreciate both of these ladies hard work and talent. |
Jesseaitui Petion
king of polynesia :P
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
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04-30-2006 19:20
The sad part is, I see several of you mentioning a thief and you don't even realize it. I don't care how popular or "powerful" people think she is, she takes advantage of others that have had good faith in her by turning around and using their textures in her work. Not sure who or what happened. But if we purchase textures from someone are we not allowed to make and sell things with it? Or rather, is it unethical? |
Palomma Casanova
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04-30-2006 20:18
I think the question should be...
"Who do you consider talented, dynamic, skillfull and HELPFUL? The one that still loves the new lost resident that ask for help, that still loves to help others succed in SL. The one that doesn't take advantages of others..... The one that is always there for you or if you IM her and you are a stranger for her, she still receive you with a smile and share her knowledge and loves to offer the help", not that person that doesn't care to help others. The one proud of her talent, but still loves to share it, show it with humble pride, not the one that says.. "I am better than anyone in SL" .....The one that when you IM her because one of her talent pieces is not right gets angry at you because you IMed her letting her know. The one that when you complement their work doesn't know how to give a thank, but a "I know you love what I do" lol Not because they helped you one time and they are your buddy you see she is nice to you, but do you see when she actually helps others? That is what I mean. The one also that is talented is the one that creates for their mind and heart, not the one that copies from whatever and whoever she wants. The unique one. _____________________
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Noir Maelstrom
Lege et lacrima
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04-30-2006 22:02
That is why this is such a wonderful world, and SL world. There is no right or wrong answer. Different opinions, different outlooks is what makes us all - well, different.
One person could be the all mighty and powerful Oz of Second Life to a couple of people. And, another could think the Greeter Bots are the most powerful ( yeah, yeah, that's who I'm voting for <grins> ![]() It's not a popularity contest. There's no award being handed out at the end - or is there? heh - Oh NO!! The Prim Awards. I think all women are powerful in their own way. And more power to us all. And the guys, too - because well, I love men. Just call me Switzerland - I remain neutral. ![]() Ciao. _____________________
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Trinity Serpentine
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04-30-2006 23:07
I think the question should be... "Who do you consider talented, dynamic, skillfull and HELPFUL? The one that still loves the new lost resident that ask for help, that still loves to help others succed in SL. The one that doesn't take advantages of others..... The one that is always there for you or if you IM her and you are a stranger for her, she still receive you with a smile and share her knowledge and loves to offer the help", not that person that doesn't care to help others. The one proud of her talent, but still loves to share it, show it with humble pride, not the one that says.. "I am better than anyone in SL" .....The one that when you IM her because one of her talent pieces is not right gets angry at you because you IMed her letting her know. The one that when you complement their work doesn't know how to give a thank, but a "I know you love what I do" lol Not because they helped you one time and they are your buddy you see she is nice to you, but do you see when she actually helps others? That is what I mean. The one also that is talented is the one that creates for their mind and heart, not the one that copies from whatever and whoever she wants. The unique one. This is all very true, Palomma. I know not of the person you refer to but it is about the helpfulness of others no matter their business. The caring of others is the grander purpose. There will always be those that will take advantage, bring others down and step on some to "grab the brass ring". But most are not like that. You've been around for so long; you've seen so much. You, of all people should know, those we touch on our daily SL journey is what it's all about. I live in Tehama and as such Nala and I have noobies showing on our land constantly. I believe we stay helpful no matter what our schedules. I know you are and have always been helpful. For the most part, that IS what SL is all about. There are people who will come and go, as you know, and they will do what they do to gain what they gain. We all have our own personal agendas here. Whether it be to entertain, script, create clothing or other content, or to make sl their personal hacking ground. It's all about how we live our Second Lives. Do not be bitter, fellow beautiful women. Do not let what these few on the forums say that you may or may not agree with be something you let rile you. Know that you all have a voice. You have all touched a life at some point. You are ALL powerful, talented, dynamic, unforgettable women to someone. respectfully, Trinity Serpentine _____________________
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Kinga Svarog
omg...i didn't say that!
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harsh?
05-01-2006 00:07
Ouch, that was harsh. All of nominations have brains. Have you met them? umm......yes i met them thats why i nominate the people i spoke for. no offence but if they haven't made an impact on me then i honestly have nothing to say about them never mind voting for them. but thanks anyhow. my votes still stand for haddock & maelynd. they made an impact on me and not because of land or money or what they did for a sim. you have your opinion i have mine. afterall the question was who " I " voted for and those are " MY " votes as such, harsh or not i speak for me not you. btw, have you met the women i voted for? if not then your missing out ![]() |
kerunix Flan
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05-01-2006 02:11
Don't have to be helpfull to be powerfull. Most RL powerfull ppl aren't very helpfull
![]() Anyway, i'm glad to be more helpfull than powerfull ![]() Nobody mentioned me. Maybe because i'm everything in SL (man, woman, robot/android, mecha, tiny, furry, tiny furry, transformer, ... even i'm mostly a woman (female android, female fury, ...) and because most of the ppl that know me know i a am a man irl. And mostly because i'm not powerfull at all (even if i have money and privates sims available for rental) ![]() |
Hiro Queso
503less
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05-01-2006 04:39
umm......yes i met them thats why i nominate the people i spoke for. no offence but if they haven't made an impact on me then i honestly have nothing to say about them never mind voting for them. but thanks anyhow. my votes still stand for haddock & maelynd. they made an impact on me and not because of land or money or what they did for a sim. you have your opinion i have mine. afterall the question was who " I " voted for and those are " MY " votes as such, harsh or not i speak for me not you. btw, have you met the women i voted for? if not then your missing out ![]() Ingrid's comment was fair IMO, Kinga. Your comment here.. "amazing how all of you just seem to look at land and money that make a woman powerful in game. God forbid brains would make a woman powerful, there shall be none of that now huh?" ..insinuates that all the other nominees do not possess those qualities, and are nominated based solely on land holdings and/or money. _____________________
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Damian Baphomet
SLuuuuurp !
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05-01-2006 06:05
This project revolves around how women are participating and faring in a typically male dominated environment/genre. I'd just like to come back to Catherine's comment. MMORPGs and other online worlds have historicaly always been a playground for guys far more than girls (just look at the stats SOE did back in EQ times). These nominations are done to attract more of the female market therefore the point that the nominees must be women in SL and in RL is totaly accurate. (being a man I'm totaly unbiaised on that ![]() well back on topic : I'd like to nominate Torrid Midnight, not because of her amazing designs but more for her words on SL which are, I think, quite widely listened which to me is the true power in a world like ours. In the same spirit somebody like Nephilaine Protagonist is always an inspiration source for many designer and builders along with a very nice and helpfull person. This nomination is more personal but I think it is a view shared by many. I'd like to nominate Robin Sojourner, not only for her amazing designing and tutorial work but also because she gathered the most exhaustive and objective informations about Wiccan and Pagan cults that can be found in SL. I can only speak for myself but this type of dedication to inform and educate people is the highest form of power, the one of knowledge. I won't nominate the obvious Aimee Weber that made and still make a lot apart from her plot to take over SL ![]() _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
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05-01-2006 06:23
no offence but if they haven't made an impact on me then i honestly have nothing to say about them never mind voting for them. You said they didn't have brains. There's a big difference. I guess I need to point out to you, that being brainless is just a wee bit of an insult. Luckily for you, being rude doesn't mean you can't post in the forums. Then again I'm arguing with someone who's forum avatar that says "bite me". I'm probably wasting my breath. _____________________
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pancake Stryker
Super Duper
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05-01-2006 06:38
I read everyones comments and all I see are women who are successful in selling there products. Why not pick a women who everyone knows? Or someone who is helpful and kind to others??
I was going to nominate myself but I am a total bitch! But I am still a motha fuckin' pimp!! ![]() _____________________
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
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05-01-2006 06:46
I read everyones comments and all I see are women who are successful in selling there products. Why not pick a women who everyone knows? Or someone who is helpful and kind to others?? I was going to nominate myself but I am a total bitch! But I am still a motha fuckin' pimp!! ![]() I'm so nominating you when there's a press opportunity for a motha fuckin' pimp!!! ![]() _____________________
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Trinity Serpentine
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05-01-2006 07:27
I read everyones comments and all I see are women who are successful in selling there products. Why not pick a women who everyone knows? Or someone who is helpful and kind to others?? I was going to nominate myself but I am a total bitch! But I am still a motha fuckin' pimp!! ![]() Hi Pancake, I don't sell any product, per se. Hrm, on second thought I guess I do; I sell Second Life to anyone that will listen to me about what a great place it is. ![]() I add to past nominations with a write in vote for Pancake because everyone knows her! ![]() _____________________
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Palomma Casanova
Free Dove Owner
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05-01-2006 08:23
Oh! I forgot to nominate Robin Sojouner... Have you all seen how this woman gets in the forums and all her comments are to help others? How she takes time to write up manuals on amazing information for designers, new designers? And still in world you IM her and she still spends time to answer and teach you.
There is another name, actually two in the newbie area. These two have been helping others since longer that I came to this game (over 2 years) I dont know if I spelling their names right. But on is Toy Lafollette and the other is Siobhan Taylor. These two ladies helped a lot when I started in SL. And they still the same. Even thou I dont talk to them because I took my way into SL, but I always hear and see them from far helping others. But of course, we were talking about "powerful" and people think that "powerful" means tons of money and owning tons of sims (with camping chairs) lol... I think some are powerful, just because of luck.. _____________________
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Kinga Svarog
omg...i didn't say that!
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now theres someone i miss
05-01-2006 08:31
Ingrid's comment was fair IMO, Kinga. Your comment here.. "amazing how all of you just seem to look at land and money that make a woman powerful in game. God forbid brains would make a woman powerful, there shall be none of that now huh?" ..insinuates that all the other nominees do not possess those qualities, and are nominated based solely on land holdings and/or money. when that was posted it was because there was the same names mentioned over and over and yes of those who have land & money. i'm sure the ones i met are nice people but hell no they are not powerful in my eyes when they can't remember who you are a week later or have no time to help you out with something. owning a ton of land or having a fat wallet isn't powerful, as well as being a nice person or making nice clothes, skin etc. thats having talent. so.....umm......Hiro can i vote you most sexiest man yet? |
Jonquille Noir
Lemon Fresh
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05-01-2006 08:44
Jonquille Noir: A truly dynamic and talented individual and always well-spoken when sharing her thoughts. Thank you very much, Trinity. That's very nice of you to say. I'm not interested in any sort of real-world press opportunities though. I enjoy flying beneath the radar. ![]() _____________________
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Nephilaine Protagonist
PixelSlinger
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05-01-2006 11:19
While I apreciate the kind words and nominations for this list, I have to respectfully decline any further involvement in this article/discussion/ect.
<3 to those who mentioned me, but lists and contests and all that are really not my thing, and anymore neither is press. warning! minor rant: "powerful"...what does that even mean, in relation to sl? what is the goal, the purpose, of this article? sl is a wonderful place, but its *critical* to keep a realistic idea of it's importance when compared to the greater scheme of things. I dont think yet another list or popularity contest is going to help sl, its residents, it's powerful OR powerless. Let's talk about something different. Something that's not power, money, land, or the same 5 or 6 people youve heard everything about before. Can that happen? IS there anything else happening here that is worth talking about? Of course there is. I'm very, very, very deeply sorry if this post comes off as bitchy or negative. I guess the whole idea of "lists" and "power" rub me the wrong way entirely. _____________________
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