An interesting bit of hypocrisy

I'm going to start my own special interests group and call it "What's right for Coco". I agree with the "what's right for Coco" charter. And I think they have some great ideas to bring about changes in Coco. And even though no one may know what I'm talking about, I'm sure I represent the majority of SL.


Feel good about that? If you don't, you don't need to join the group. But i won't stop lobbying for what's best for you.

The forums have been about the FIC for months. We just have a newer, better organized and more democratic FIC now.

Evenutally this will all be about the mob. I rememebr Boardman during the Terror!

Nothing, repeat nothing is better than British comedy.

*thanks the stars for BBC America*

I....I.... I thought I was alone! *hugs*

No. Not at all. I am merely half a woman without Red Dwarf and Ab Fab!!

Edina to Saffy - "If he's at all good looking, have sex with him 'cos I'm worried your business is going to heal over!"

and

Mother - 'What is my email address?'
Eddy - 'oldwoman @ risk of being strangled by own daughter.com I should imagine'

OK, after reading 41 pages over 2 hours, almost pissing myself, having cola come out my nose, aching ribs and a numb butt.. WHO THE HELL DOES ANSHE THINK SHE IS.. to mention one name.

Siggy, Nolan and a ton of others... ty ty ty so very much. I havent had side splitting laughter from the forums in a long time!

IMO, some people seem to have no life so they have to live inside a GAME. They have lived within the GAME so long, they forgot reality and tossed there sense of humour out with the garbage a few months ago. NOTE TO THOSE PEOPLE--- Turn off your computers.. walk away.. you'll probably see that your dogs hungry, has crapped all over the carpet and you've aged a few years

I will allow MJwhateverthehelltheycallthemselves to make MY decissions for ME approximately when hell freezes over, and considering its 2am and Im still sweating my ass off.. its not today. Have a nice LIFE folks, and I'll go have fun in the GAME of SL (I dont care if Philip calls it a "world".. if I can turn it off and not drop dead, its a game)

Baby

*bows deeply*

COME FORWARD PLAYERS!!!!!


If we spirits have offended, think but this and all is mended,
That you have been reading here, whilst twits and asshats did appear!

And others, thou we can't name names... did come and shout and make bold claims..

but gentles, do not reprehend... in 2 weeks time it starts again!

Or else the Sig and asshat call.... and so goodnight unto you all...


So please pos rate, if we be freinds...

Or else you may kiss our rear ends........



Siggy

(with apologies to the bard)

Thanks for posting the text. It's an interesting read. A few observations.

1. I don't have a problem with the so-called highest level Lindens meeting with these people. Meeting with those customers that pump the most money into your organization is just good business. I never bitch when companies I don't own shares in don't invite me to their annual golf tournament. If I owned a big chunk of the company I would care.

2. It is utter hypocrisy to create a group that claims to be looking out for our best interests (well, at least those of us who are classified in Anshe's world as non-casual players) and then press for an NDA. Anyone who remains in that group after attending that meeting or reading that transcript should seriously question their continued involvement. They pretty much are Anshe's collective tool.

3. Is it me or has someone else taken over Anshe's avi for these public appearances? The syntax is a helluva lot better structured than in the past. 'She' hit all the right marks for a lobbyist. Kissed Phillip's ass at just the right time. Even pulled the NDA comment out of her ass at just the right moment. I'm impressed which leads me to believe it can't be her.

*Cory Edo bows*



Though this be madness, yet there is method in 't

Months and months away from the forums and I had to pick THIS thread.




I hate you all.

Blame it on your sig.

If we all look at this thread a few more times, it'll have more views than the Upskirt Museum drama of last December and be the drama event of all time. Let's make history!

And in such a short time too!

And I nominate Editorial Hare for the SL citizen of the year award for breaking this news

Who is that masked hare?

I think it's one of those new fangled tinies i hear so much about?

I can understand people who have a big financial stake in SL wishing to protect it. But what LL and some big stakeholders nearly always seem to overlook is that people may contribute a lot of time and energy to the game too, and SL wouldn't be anything without those people either. Land is necessary to be able to build, but content is necessary to have an environment people want to visit, and visitors are necessary for success too....

Personally I would like SL to promote an all-players-being-equal stance, because the alternative is that you make value judgements about the relative merit of investment and creative contribution, etc etc, and all that is very subjective. But then if that isn't their true attitude...if people who spend big money with LL do have a higher value to the company, then maybe it would be more honest of them to reflect that in a straightforward manner, by offering those people more of a say. Dunno. At least we poor landless players would know where we stood, instead of all the rumours that land equals power and power equals the secret ear of the management....

I would caution both LL and the group to remember that ordinary players are required for SL to be a success, so an apparent move to exclude ANY group of players from a discussion process may have negative effects for everyone's businesses.
Cali

Cali, I guess "all-players-being-equal" is the attitude of LL, or, to be even more specific "no player has any say in decisions regarding SL".

We are not living in a democracy! LL is a company. And inworld this resembles living in a kind of (benevolent) dictatorship or monarchy. Which means, that our King and the Nobility listen to all groups and kinds of residents, because this is the wise thing to do - and then decide alone!

And Philip rather explicitely has expressed his and Robins willingness to listen to all groups of residents.LL is managed by some very clever people. The realize that a lot of different kinds of player contributions are important to the succes of SL (and LL); not only "paying tier". But in the end they will decide on the basis what they deem best for the mid to long term success of SL as a platform and LL as a company.

To put it bluntly: If "proposition A" is opposed vehemently by the vast majority of the forumsters, but LL's management believes it might raise revenues or make SL more attractive for a huge group of residents which usually don't participate in the forums - or might not even be in SL now because proposition A might be needed to bring them in ...

... I am rather sure that proposition A will be realized!

And this is why SL will remain just a video game rather than achieving the status of the Metaverse.

If you were to take the company stance, you would have to take a balance sheet approach and shareholder approach.

In world, Prok and Anshe are among the biggest investers, ie they pay the bills.

It is not wrong for a corporation to listen to shareholders nor for a shareholder to ask to and actually influence the company depending on how many shares they hold

This is, however, a dangerous game for LL or Anshe and Prok to play in SL. I give them both enough credit than to state so openly, but obviously many feel that was the unstated implication. Right or wrong, this could bode badly for their in world business.

This would be suicide for land barons as the single share holders would withdraw their support of the majore shareholders.

The term stakeholder more accurately represented the normal user with no fianancial incentive to be here (of which I am a member of that class)

Unfortunatly, certain things have occured that made me withdraw my support, even though I agree with the stated objectives and still do.

But if you assert that LL is a business and they give more credit to the larger shareholder, understand that means you endorse those who pay the most cash per month to have a greater say. That is the nature of a business.

I did not say this, did not mean this and did not express the opinion that this was the attitude of LL.

I agree this is certainly not the opinion nor in the best interest for LL to take.

Simply stating that as a bizness, that is how bizness is run. This is certainly a unique bizness model (would love to read the bizness plan to be honest) and special consideration was needed to balance contributions beyond pure finances.

I think LL has succeeded in achieving as fair a balance as anyone can expect.

At least until they change from selling a service to selling a platform.

Yes, it could be, only time will tell. As I've said before, they need better handlers. Someone who is heading up a large business that depends on the payments of the 'tourists' should be slightly more careful in what, and how, things are said. This can become especially damaging when the comments are construed as elitist, egotistical, and self-serving. Perception goes farther than one might think.

The damage has been done, now we'll just have to wait and see.