A Union Of SecondLife Members To Lobby The Lindens?

But what about semi-existant disorganizations? You can rarely ever track those down.

Good work people, 14 members have gone on record so far and have joined the union.

Please put your name down to be in the union, it is important that we speak together and speak united.

Once we reach 100 members, I will open the floor to allow those who want a union, to pitch for who would best lead a union. Remember, it's important now that we come together, tell all your friends to come here and go on record!

No union! Who else is behind me? Let's all join together and form a united front against this union!

14 members and 14 yes votes.

heh.

"As for the union thing, my personal belief is that it's bad, because then the minority can't be heard. Let's say I just joined. I hear there's this union of people who sway the decisions of how LL develops Second Life. I feel like if I ever want to be a catalyst for change in Second Life, I have to either be in this union or I have to make friends with these people. I no longer feel like I can simply e-mail Philip or make a post in the forums simply stating my opinion. I need to group-think to get anything done."

Great idea, but I think we need to get people together *before* we create a platform or start bandying about ideas on how we will attempt to influence LL. I do not feel it need be adversarial, but could be like a Lobby. Of course, LL could just shut us down if it wanted, or if we became overly obnoxious.

No taxation without representation!

Viva la revolucion!

I'd like to see a response to this question.

That's right Alain, and now is our big chance to come together

Vote yes, go on record, be heard...

As soon as we get to 100 YES votes I will personally hold a vote via email as to the top issue that is bothering us, and I will write on behalf of all members of the union, to ask about the status of that issue.

I'm sure the Lindens will be keen to address the concerns of a large slice of it's paying members. After all the customer is always right.

Zee,

You're spot on, not that many SL residents use the forums. Probably because it's not that important they do.

But this is important. Tell you what, I'll create a group in the game too, and I ask you all join, free membership.

Spread the word, please ask as many people as you can to come and make their voice heard!

Huh? \/ /\



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Which are you going for?
A collective voice with representation by an individual.
Or just a collective voice?

Please all join "The Union Of Second Life", free to join.

Thanks

Yet another money exchanger saying 'screw everyone elses ability to make some money and enjoy SL so she can sell her L$ on GOM for more'

Your union idea won't work simply because such a small percentage of SL users actually read the forums. You're touching such a small portion of the population by advertising it here. Other then that I think it's a great idea. The money exchangers won't support it though, because it may mean the average player is once again able to make some money without being a programmer/computer design type.

I agree Corey, but I need your help. I need everyone's help. Tell your friends about the union in world. Spread the word. And join this free group:

"The Union Of Second Life". That's our in world group to help keep us on the same page. Encourage anyone who wants to be heard to join that group. We can be heard if we speak together.

If you refuse to address concerns raised in this thread, how can you be trusted to actually consider the issues at hand with Linden Lab? This is exactly the kind of uninformed, egocentric leadership that the residents of Second Life do NOT need. You can't just block out all points of view without considering them, just because there's something you want for yourself. You need to take into consideration the needs of the community. That's what LL already does. No union is going to improve that process.

Another uniformed, knee-jerk reaction, just as I described.

Yet another asshat that thinks he knows something....you're not Jesus Christ asshat specially considering Jade has spent untold amounts of money on aquiring land and geting the SL Library together.

Once we get a significant number of people together, I will put forward an open vote to people which simply asks what is the most important issue troubling all members. Then I will write to the Lindens on this subject. My letter and any response it gets will be made fully public.

This is rather an uncalled for and scurrilous attack upon one of SL's great philanthropists

Says yet another freeloader who thinks they should get money for doing nothing but bitching and sticking their hand out.

Every union vote I've ever been involved with has been confidential -- that said -- there are many places where a union is needed - and is an invaluable tool for getting the needs of the worker heard by the management.

I don't beleive this is one of them, however.

I voted no.

To date every interaction I've needed to have with the Lindens on an administrative level has been prompt, courteous, and informative..

I don't need anyone to broker my queries with the management - they are only and IM away!.

Siggy.

If you want to form a union, form one to petition Microsoft not to continue releasing bug-ridden and insecure software. They had 60 BILLION in the bank and gave half of it away to stockholders, yet they had to BUY an anti spyware company because they didn't have the knowhow to write build such capabilities into the OS? Big companies such as MS need group action sometimes to put them back in their place, in service of customers rather than the other way around.

Small companies (and I think LL still qualifies) don't need blocks of users trying to bully them into fixing this bug or that bug first. I think they DO listen to what's said on the forums and in many cases (although less lately) actually respond at some point with a plan. The last thing in the world they are doing is sitting around sipping lattes. You don't get $8-million in venture capital that way.

By all means people should voice their complaints. No need for unions, political action committees, or petitions. Such tools will no doubt get some squeaky wheel problem addressed sooner, but it will also generate a lot of bad PR that will drive users away and may also cause other problems to be ignored entirely.

Votes currently stand 17 to 31 in favor of Linden Lab making decisions without the hinderance of a union. That's already 31 voices you will be excluding from your public statements to Linden Lab. A majority of those voices belong to SL veterans, who are more aware of the culture and history of Second Life. If I were to join a union, I would want to join one that includes the voices of the informed residents, rather than excludes them.

We are not going to go onto google and say SL is bad... Just want more people power to take our issues to the Lindens. Can only be a good thing.

This union excludes nobody, rather includes anyone who will lend their voice.

"Excluded" was a poor word choice. I stand corrected on that. Anyway, I've made all the arguments I can, so I won't fall into redundancy. Good luck. If you go through with it, I hope it has only a positive impact on the community.