A Union Of SecondLife Members To Lobby The Lindens?

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The idea behind this movement has kind of mellowed into this:

We form a group of people who will unite in times of trouble to talk to the Lindens about the problems we face, with a view to getting fairly efficient updates on how something is progressing, or what the status of something is, or if needed, to lobby for something to be done (like a bug fix) though it should be noted the Lindens are generally really quite good on this themselves.

The point of uniting would be that though one person on his own may be heard, a group will always be louder.

We have a group in world called "The Union Of Second Life" which is free to join. Please do so if you wish.

Glad to see a lot of YES voters! It is a start to get you all on record, as being part of the Union. If we can record that we are a LARGE group of people we will have enough political sway to get a few things patched around here!

Join the UNION or never again ask why it takes forever for anything crucial to get fixed!

I refuse to participate in public polls of any kind.

The majority of residents aren't informed enough to make wise decisions. For example, I would expect the majority of residents to reject the recent economic changes, and that seems to be the case. However, the majority has not been around Second Life long enough, and does not understand economics enough to realize the benefits of these changes. I would not give up my land and refuse to support Second Life due to the knee-jerk reaction of a bunch of uninformed residents.

OK, but today I read in another thread that there is ANOTHER permissions bug allowing people to copy items at will. You make it, others flog it.

Shouldn't this be given top priority and all bugs of this kind be wiped out forever? Can't we lobby the lindens to get them to make this a higher priority? Not if we all go our separate ways.

A union can only come directly from the people. Stand together or stand apart. It's not even to do with me that much. I just gave the call. But if you don't answer it don't complain next time something breaks.

You should do this one. This is for you to put your name down against being in a Union. If people don't get behind a Union it will collapse.

I reserve the right to complain, even if I disagree with forming a union. Another example: If we lobby the lindens to get them to make a specific bug a higher priority, and they refuse, then are we going to all go on strike? It's as if you plan to try and control Linden Lab. I prefer to trust their judgment. There may be additional bugs that the majority is not aware of. Linden Lab isn't missing any pieces of the puzzle.

Sorry. Second Life is not going to collapse if we don't form a union. That is a poor assumption.

You saw me wrong, Second Life will DEFINITELY not collapse if we don't form a union. But the Union will collapse if we don't join it. I'm sure Second Life will be fine without a union. 20,000 individuals are no match for one corporation, and they'll just keep doing things at their own pace. Maybe that works out for you. But I think the permissions system should be subject to an investigation following the revelation there's YET ANOTHER bug in it.

Make a union and you have a voice. Stay out of it and you still have a voice, but it's just your voice.

I'm only going to ask once to form a union. You all have one thread, one shot.

I can't possibly do this myself, so why try? You're either with me or not. We either do this together or not at all. Please, do feel free to go your own way

I stand corrected.

Will it collapse like a bag of moldy bread?

To be a real force for change in Second Life we need 100 people at bare minimum to go on record as being a part of the Union.

If you know anyone who feels their concerns about Second Life are NOT being addressed, tell them to come here, and GO ON RECORD. You can't be part of a Union from the shadows.

At this point I'm still being paid more to play SL than I'm paying.

LOL Torley!



Will it collapse like an overheated souffle?

We have seven people in the union, keep it coming, all night and all tomorrow, keep going on record...

Will the union be able to stop spamming in the forums?

I'm not sure how not voting will make a non-existent organization collapse. But if that's all it takes, then I'm all for not voting!

If I post in the forum that I think Bug X should be made top priority, then that is one voice, yes. However, if 99 other people agree in the forum with what I have to say, then those 100 independent voices have the same influence as 100 union member voices. There is no point to a union. No union member is going to hold to the union's decision to sacrifice all land. Everyone will still continue to decide for himself.

The permissions bug is a tough bug to crack, and the Lindens keep looking for ways to fix it. Alot of the permissions bugs stem from people trying to crack it, and doing 8 different steps in order to game the system. They find a loophole, LL closes it, and they find another. It's the way the world works. And when your dealing with packets, alot of those permissions can even be changed because of a network bug that happens all the time online. The permissions packet on the specific object may be lost somewhere, and changes it to mod/copy/transfer. LL is doing there best, and it is a high priority bug i'm sure. Forming a union won't make them work faster, I for one applaud LL and what they've done so far. The fact that they keep working on squashing this bug.

It's true, non-existent organizations are by far the hardest to kill!

Most residents don't look in the forums anyway. How representative would this union be?

He's started Spamming the most popular places in world too He was just at the club I work at

Smells like mutiny to me.

STOP YOUR SPAM! You are damaging your cause.

I just want people to know this is out there, so they can join if they want. It is important people have a voice. I know it's hard on the Lindens, but some things are important, like the right to create stuff without fear it will be pirated. We need the right to speak in unison and take our case to the lindens.