Did John Kerry ever throw mud? Any slander at all? Thats right, thats what his campain was built on.
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 09:19
Did John Kerry ever throw mud? Any slander at all? Thats right, thats what his campain was built on.
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 09:20
OH OH...i think sl is up...im dling the new version!!!
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 09:21
damn, nope...LOL
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Blake Rockwell
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11-04-2004 09:22
Ok..lets all get into the game..make love and eat grapes!
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2004 09:23
Did John Kerry ever throw mud? Any slander at all? Thats right, thats what his campain was built on. I HAVE A PLAN....IM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, BUT I GOT ONE, I PROMISE John Kerrys famous words Dude. The campaign is over. Bush has to stand on his own two little legs now. No Kerry bashing. No Clinton bashing. He's all alone with his dismal record as a President in his first term. He's being watched very very carefully in his second. |
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-04-2004 09:42
Did John Kerry ever throw mud? Any slander at all? Thats right, thats what his campain was built on. I HAVE A PLAN....IM NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, BUT I GOT ONE, I PROMISE John Kerrys famous words For the length of his campaign, John Kerry had a detailed plan spelled out point by point on his web site, and in a book he released. You can't explain a plan in 90 second sound bites. To criticize him for not having a detailed plan is laughable, and honestly ignorant. George Bush's entire strategy boiled down to "I will stay the course". Yay, 4 more years of same old shit. _____________________
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 09:50
"America has spoken and 49% of them said F*** YOU....go bush...hehe....
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-04-2004 09:51
Ok, if I read any more in this thread I'm going to be ill. Someone please slap me if you see me browsing this thread again!!
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Omen Torgeson
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11-04-2004 18:29
I just spent the better part of an hour typing out my final post/response to this thread, addressing a few key people in stuff they had said to me. The browser crashed and I lost it all while I was previewing my post.
I'm not going to bother starting over. This is my last post on this. And all I have left to say is that I appreciate the contributions to the thread and many of the people who chose to jump in. I feel a little bitter having lost my rebuttal to a few choice messages to me challanging my patriotism, or saying I in any way Un American, or blatantly saying I in some way was challenging the offending party's RIGHT'S to do what they did. However, I'm letting it drop and won't bother retyping it. I know exactly what I meant in my posts, and many of you had the ability to see exactly what I was saying, and what I wasn't. And I appreciate those of you who did read my words carefully, and not add or take away from what I was stating. End. |
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Siggy Romulus
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11-04-2004 18:38
Wasn't this about a backpack originally?
Well, I'm thinking of logging in this weekend to bring in some tie dye shoes so the Fab Five won't kill me in my sleep. Just remember folks, there is no sin in being poor - only in dressing poorly! (I've been hanging around Cyrus too long - someone get me some red meat and a beer quick!) Siggy. _____________________
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Neehai Zapata
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11-04-2004 19:48
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-04-2004 19:49
Just remember folks, there is no sin in being poor - only in dressing poorly! (I've been hanging around Cyrus too long - someone get me some red meat and a beer quick!) Siggy. Dude your so gay! ![]() _____________________
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David Cartier
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11-04-2004 20:28
No gay man would ever get caught in that harem pant suit that Siggy wears...
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David Cartier
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11-04-2004 20:35
Actually - and this is totally just a BTW and not really germane, I suppose - if you are on a boat or some similar situation and you display a flag upside down without there being an emergency situation the penalties are truly severe should emergency personnel respond, so don't do this at home!!!
This whole episode arose because (1) one person was insensitive to the deep-felt sentiments that many have developed for an American symbol and because (2) those who feel those deep sentiments have not bothered to learn the rules for flag display. It is not disrespectful to display the flag upside down or at half mast. It is just a mistake to think that it is. It is disrespectful, for example, to display the flag as a patch on your jean pockets, or attached to a surface with tacks through it, or with anything obscuring part of the flag, or to attach a cloth flag to a surface that allows it to drape limply without flying free. If you claim to respect the flag, please learn the rules. Also, if you claim to respect the flag, please respect the principles that it represents. You can't have it both ways, you know. If you love America, love what she stands for. It's an inaguration, for crying out loud, not a deification. |
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Torrid Midnight
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11-04-2004 21:56
Haha, how did I know this would turn into a Bush slamming thread! Here's the deal. People are going to be upset for awhile that he's remaining in office. I've been hearing their slams, their judgements, their cries for a very long time now. It's not going to stop just because he won the election. I'm a member of a minority in SL and I don't mind being there. I've been there already because of my religion and I'm there also because I believe the right man is in office. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and we should respect that. I can understand how what you saw upset you but really there isn't much you can do about it. Sometimes I'd like to go back and see what would've happened if Gore had been in office haha. I remember after 9/11 a friend of mine saying that if Gore had been in office, he'd have been under his desk hugging a tree and crying lol. If Kerry had won this election, yes I would have been very disappointed, but not shocked. I would however accept the fact and at least try to respect the fact that he was our president as much as possible. The fact is, people aren't going to stop slamming him just because he's president. It's something you just have to accept and then move on. All you can do is show your support and try to respect others even when you disagree. Either way, try not to let it ruin your experience in SL. There are so many other wonderful things about this virtual world we share.
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Chip Midnight
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11-04-2004 22:40
I respect your right to your opinion and your outrage, Omen, but I have to say that I find the level of nationalism, flag worship, and blind allegiance required to inspire it quite disturbing. We were never intended to be so feverishly loyal to our government. That's why we were given free speech in the first place. Discouraging outward dissent among the populace through the social pressure of being labeled unpatriotic or offensively disloyal is one of the primary tools of fascists. I don't say that to label you in any way, but I would ask you to think about the chilling effect on democracy it would have if everyone shared your outrage at any display of dissent. If you truly love this country and the freedom that it was meant to foster and protect, then seeing that free expression should be something to celebrate, no matter how opposite the view expressed may be to your own. To try and silence it is the far less patriotic thing to do in my humble opinion. Celebrate our freedoms while we still have them. Don't seek to hasten their erosion.
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Siggy Romulus
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11-05-2004 00:07
No gay man would ever get caught in that harem pant suit that Siggy wears... Dude the pants are a babe magnet I tell ya!!!! The number of times folks have wanted to 'rub the magic lamp'.... sheesh! Siggy. _____________________
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11-05-2004 00:09
Dude your so gay! ![]() Dude, you wish ![]() Siggy _____________________
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Blake Rockwell
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11-05-2004 04:27
I ask the same of you. What's next for George? Will he move on to killing innocent civilians in Iran, or is the plan to intensify the quagmire of Iraq? If Iran is sending in Terrorists to Iraq..yes..we will probably go into Iran. _____________________
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Hank Ramos
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11-05-2004 04:54
Haha, how did I know this would turn into a Bush slamming thread! Here's the deal. People are going to be upset for awhile that he's remaining in office. I've been hearing their slams, their judgements, their cries for a very long time now. It's not going to stop just because he won the election. Well, the trouble is not that Bush won and Kerry lost. This isn't sour grapes like "Gosh, I supported Kerry and I lost! I can't stand losing. Boo Hoo. Wahh". That's not it. The entire US government (legislative, executive, and judicial) is now controlled by a radical, right-wing faction of the GOP. They have shown in the recent past that they don't give a rat's ass about what the other party wants. The big problem here is that 50% of the country now has NO VOICE in the future of our country. A single party running the government (whether republican or democrat) is a very, very bad thing. No debate, no compromise. That's the point. _____________________
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Korg Stygian
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11-05-2004 05:21
To quote someone from earlier...
"I respect your right to your opinion and your outrage" However, I simply do not understand the outrage. In the elections that I remember throughout my lifetime, I don't remember this type of reaction to an elected president by what seems like an awful lot of people in the other party. It's not a case of poor sportsmanship or even rational disagreement - to me. It a type of extremist reaction that I can no honestly say I have ever seen in any other situation - even just prior to a few riots that I had the misfortune to be near. I cannot see the point in such seemingly senseless overreations... the election is over, the country will survive for the next four years no matter what. Where does this "OMG! The world is coming to an end!" sentiment come from? IMHO, had Kerry won, Republicans as a whole would not have had a similar reaction... Why are Democrats, almost as a group here in SL forums at least, making this type of scene about this? I cannot fathom it no matter how hard I try. The closest thing I can remember is the reaction some Republicans had to Clintion -- yet they stayed within what I consider to be the realm of rational argument rather then exploring the world of prediciting fantasies. At some point, I have to just cease listening to the cries of "wolf! wolf! WOLF!" even if one or two might actually have some validity. |
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11-05-2004 05:27
(All watch in stunned silence as Korg sprinkles the Miracle-Gro on the troll patch. But silent shock abruptly gives way to stark horror, as a troop of hideous and deformed beings claw their way forth from the mud. A few spectators have the sense to flee, but others rapidly charge into battle. It is not a pretty sight.)
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Korg Stygian
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11-05-2004 05:43
(All watch in stunned silence as Korg sprinkles the Miracle-Gro on the troll patch. But silent shock abruptly gives way to stark horror, as a troop of hideous and deformed beings claw their way forth from the mud. A few spectators have the sense to flee, but others rapidly charge into battle. It is not a pretty sight.) /me directs the "mircale-grown" worms in Ardith's direction......only to see them turned into "mecha's" ![]() |
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Hank Ramos
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11-05-2004 05:47
However, I simply do not understand the outrage. <snip> At some point, I have to just cease listening to the cries of "wolf! wolf! WOLF!" even if one or two might actually have some validity. /me points to my last post, a few posts above this one for the answer. ![]() _____________________
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Hank Ramos
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11-05-2004 05:57
This whole episode arose because (1) one person was insensitive to the deep-felt sentiments that many have developed for an American symbol and because (2) those who feel those deep sentiments have not bothered to learn the rules for flag display. It is not disrespectful to display the flag upside down or at half mast. It is just a mistake to think that it is. It is disrespectful, for example, to display the flag as a patch on your jean pockets, or attached to a surface with tacks through it, or with anything obscuring part of the flag, or to attach a cloth flag to a surface that allows it to drape limply without flying free. If you claim to respect the flag, please learn the rules. Also, if you claim to respect the flag, please respect the principles that it represents. Here here. I thought it was wonderful after 9/11 for people to properly display flags on the outside of their houses, or on newly erected flag poles. It was a wonderful display of the principles of our country! However, then everyone had to put a flag on their car, a bumper sticker on their butt, and a flag lapel pin. Everyone wanted to slap the flag on something to showt that they cared about america. It started to feel like that if you didn't have a flag on something, you were unamerican. Then the flags flapping on top of the minivan started to fade or were shred to tatters, the bumper stickers started to collect road grime, and every politician had a flag lapel pin on not really caring what it stood for, but that they didn't want to be labeled a non-patriot. My grandfater, a decorated pilot in WWII, told me that people who slap the flag on everything are not patriots. A flag doesn't make you a patriot. Living the ideals of our great country is what makes you a patriot. That's showing love for what our country stands for. That is why so many of our allies are so upset with us, that we are not holding true to our values: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for everyone. _____________________
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