Disgusting, Disgraceful, and Disturbing...
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 07:41
From: Demian Caldera
You don't think, you just bash!
From: Dhuzunt Playfair I am 100% for standing up for what you believe in, but IIIIIIIIII dont kill babbies, IIIIIIIIIII have a job, defending them, sooooo, does n e 1 know why they say that stuff...or am i just seeing the negative losers with no correct left wing mentality, just a chip on their shoulder?  LOVE YOU ALL! HUH?
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2004 07:42
From: Blake Rockwell If you think The United States is run by Hitler..I hope you don't live here..if you do you should leave quickly and join a nation that is agains't the U.S. I hear Alqueda is hiring. Actually? I think it's run by Cheney.
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Roberta Dalek
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11-04-2004 07:42
From: Panzer Bixby I think the rest of the world doesn't hate Bush, or the USA in general. As a portuguese citizen, i shouldn't be concerned about US Internal political affairs. But since those internal affairs, affect directly the way i live my life, such a concern is hard to avoid. I understand Omen point of view. It's about respect and patriotism. But as many posters have pointed out on this thread, respect is a subjective matter. SL is expanding globaly like wildfire and i think that's A Good Thing TM. With that growth of different cultures in SL respect must play a major role. Or trouble will arise. An interesting situation would be, a chinese citizen opening a "restaurant" with some pictures of dog delicatessen. I would think it's disgusting, disgraceful and disturbing. But it's his right to love such things. And there are other interesting concerns with the internationalization of SL. But i wont hijack the thread.  SL is an international space, not just a US one. People will respond to events in different ways - whether they be by being provocative, by trolling or by outrage. There will always be things done by people of other cultures that some others find difficult. As SL becomes more international there will be more of this. Some countries are generally more nationalistic than others. Non-Americans are generally very aware of US nationalism and have different responses to it. Some people just ignore it, some may try and open up a debate, and some will try and provoke a reaction. Very few people will actually agree with you but it is something that we have learned to live with as a majority of the English-speaking internet seem to be from the United States. To the original poster - this was probably one of your fellow citizens. However if you find this sort of thing distressing then you may need to consider whether you feel comfortable in an international space. Freedom of speech and expression is for everyone.
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Magnum Serpentine
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11-04-2004 07:43
From: Blake Rockwell So..because Bush was in office when we went to War with a Dictator..he's compared to Hitler? Something doesn't click. Dictators support Dictators I would think because they do not want elections. Yep Bush is a Dictator
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2004 07:44
From: Demian Caldera Remembering what I learned from history lessons at a German school, and from what my (German) parents and grandparents told me, and reading the article by Robert Reich....I'm afraid that half of the American people just made it possible on Tuesday.  actually --with only 40% of the US population voting --and considering that Bush won 51% of that vote --only about 20% of the American People support him.
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Kacey Anubis
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11-04-2004 07:46
From: Kendra Bancroft actually --with only 40% of the US population voting --and considering that Bush won 51% of that vote --only about 20% of the American People support him. Boy now there is some fuzzy math.
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 07:48
Thought u guys would get a kick out of this website... www.whitehouse.org...LOL...its funny i dont care who you are...they have both kerry and bush posters...its funny!...ill post 2 just to break the tension... 
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Myra Loveless
The Wandering Glitch
Join date: 3 Oct 2004
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11-04-2004 07:49
From: Hank Ramos You are seeing patriots with genuine concern for their beloved country. Good point. I concider myself to be extremely patriotic. I will defend any and all rights listed in the US Constitution. I stand by our founding fathers, including but not limited to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and all the rest. The multiple parts of the US Patriot Act contradicts multiple amendments of the US Constitution. Also, when it was being claimed that the mistreatment of prisoners overseas weren't protected by the constitution is complete bull. Apparently somebody missed the first paragraph, the part about "inaliable human rights" try looking up the word "inaliable" some time. I concider our "President" to be one of the most unpatriotic men in the nation and it's a wonder they haven't put him infront of a fireing squad yet. My disdain for the president is out of my patriotism! I am truely TRUELY concerned for the safety of the American People and for the safety of the people of pretty much all nations any minute that man remains in office! His own brother even suggested on national television that Yale be sued for graduating him. He has traded several of our liberties in exchange for a false sense of safety. To quote Thomas Jefferson, the man that wrote the Bill of Rights to which the first ten amendments were based on. "Those who exchange liberty for safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." I stand behind Thomas Jefferson on that! GIVE US BACK OUR LIBERTIES! I NEVER agreed to having the Cosntitution spat and pissed on by an unpatriotic man that hides behind religon. Aristotle had plenty to say about despots hiding behind religon.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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11-04-2004 07:50
From: Jack Digeridoo  Yea, we'll take yas. Yeah you guys have been wanting to invade Canada for a while now haven't you? But we're ready to defend ourselves with our sinking submarines and vicious, attack-beavers. Bring it.
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Azrazael Maracas
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11-04-2004 07:50
looking at this thread....
... PLEASE could someone remove the quote button??!!!!
I can read a post and don't need a full quote of it in every reply.....would make reading some of these less of a hazzle. just make a reference otr a short quote to the original post you are refering to.... PLEASE!
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Blake Rockwell
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11-04-2004 07:50
From: Dhuzunt Playfair Thought u guys would get a kick out of this website... www.whitehouse.org...LOL...its funny i dont care who you are...they have both kerry and bush posters...its funny!...ill post 2 just to break the tension...  LOL!!
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2004 07:52
From: Kacey Anubis Boy now there is some fuzzy math. According to the U.S. Bureau of the Census, the resident population of the United States, projected to 11/4/2004 at 1:48:48 AM EST is 294,674,765. http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/popclockAccording to CNN, George W. Bush got 59,117,523 votes, with 99% of precincts nationwide reporting. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/U.S. Population: 294,674,765 Votes for Bush: 59,117,523 A litle quick math on the calculator, and we find out that 20.06% of America voted for Bush and determined our president for the next four years. fuzzy indeed. _________________
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Magnum Serpentine
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11-04-2004 07:53
From: Demian Caldera Remembering what I learned from history lessons at a German school, and from what my (German) parents and grandparents told me, and reading the article by Robert Reich....I'm afraid that half of the American people just made it possible on Tuesday.  Yep. And remember, At one time Germany was stronger than the US but the Roosevelt administration was able to defeate them. The US may be strong now, but the determined people of the World will come together, and if the US does begin a German style policy of conquest, (193  the world will come down on them.
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Kacey Anubis
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11-04-2004 07:55
From: Kendra Bancroft A litle quick math on the calculator, and we find out that 20.06% of America voted for Bush and determined our president for the next four years. fuzzy indeed. That is true but to say that all the people who didn't vote would not support bush is a hunch at best
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2004 07:57
From: Kacey Anubis That is true but to say that all the people who didn't vote would not support bush is a hunch at best now that's some fuzzy logic
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Myra Loveless
The Wandering Glitch
Join date: 3 Oct 2004
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11-04-2004 07:57
From: Kendra Bancroft actually --with only 40% of the US population voting --and considering that Bush won 51% of that vote --only about 20% of the American People support him. From: Kacey Anubis Boy now there is some fuzzy math. It's not fuzzy math... Just a problem of symantics. It's 51% of 40%. X = 0.51 * 0.4. X being the ratio of people in the nation that voted for bush. Roughly 0.204 or 20.4% Assuming the 40% voting thing is correct. Is that 40% of the human beings living in the US that voted or is that 40% of those eligible to vote? Lets assume it's of those eligible. 51% of 40% is infact 20.4% so he's right, about 20%... However, that would be 20.4% of the population of the people that are eligible to vote voted for Bush. It doesn't speak for the other 60% that didnt' vote.
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-04-2004 07:58
Remember your options because 2008 will be here before you know it. 
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Blake Rockwell
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11-04-2004 07:58
Bush hiding behind religion? hmm..was Hitler religious? I think the founding fathers were religious...did they hide behind it also?
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 08:00
yea the math thing....i think that includes people under 17 no? im really not for sure..but i think they count as citizens. i think the average family has 2 kids per 2 adults...soooo, with some quick math...lets say 1/2 of them are a family, and have 2 kids...there is some fuzz...
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Myra Loveless
The Wandering Glitch
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11-04-2004 08:00
Look on the bright side!
If we survive another 4 years, he'll never be president again.
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Kacey Anubis
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11-04-2004 08:01
The bigest point of all is that they didn't vote. 
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2004 08:01
From: Myra Loveless It's not fuzzy math... Just a problem of symantics. It's 51% of 40%. X = 0.51 * 0.4. X being the ratio of people in the nation that voted for bush. Roughly 0.204 or 20.4%
Assuming the 40% voting thing is correct. Is that 40% of the human beings living in the US that voted or is that 40% of those eligible to vote? Lets assume it's of those eligible. 51% of 40% is infact 20.4% so he's right, about 20%... However, that would be 20.4% of the population of the people that are eligible to vote voted for Bush. It doesn't speak for the other 60% that didnt' vote. Depends on your definition of "support" -- I was using the term as in active participant in the electoral process --not in a sort of fuzzy wuzzy "I think he's a neato President" kind of way.
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Myra Loveless
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11-04-2004 08:02
From: Kendra Bancroft Depends on your definition of "support" -- I was using the term as in active participant in the electoral process --not in a sort of fuzzy wuzzy "I think he's a neato President" kind of way. True... it comes out to 20.4% of the people of the nation support Bush enough to actually get off their fat *bleeps* and push a button.
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If the designers of X-Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same prinicples -- but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that. -- From the programming notebooks of a heretic, 1990
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Dhuzunt Playfair
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11-04-2004 08:03
i think sl needs to come up quick.....LOL
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Myra Loveless
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11-04-2004 08:04
From: Dhuzunt Playfair i think sl needs to come up quick.....LOL I second that!
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If the designers of X-Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same prinicples -- but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that. -- From the programming notebooks of a heretic, 1990
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