Linden Sponsoring Ulrika Zugzwang's Government is a disastrous idea
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-16-2004 10:01
From: Billy Grace Ok Cris. I don't get this. I was serious. I don't know Shadow very well but like him well enough. What is wrong with that? I'd like to know your perspective because I meant it to be a positive statement. It is the fact that you qualified it with "well enough" instead of just saying I like you. I like you well enough is not really a compliment. Well enough to what?
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11-16-2004 10:09
From: Cristiano Midnight It is the fact that you qualified it with "well enough" instead of just saying I like you. I like you well enough is not really a compliment. Well enough to what? I just don't know him very well is all that was meant to convey... as in well enough for how much I know him… I concede that maybe I could have chosen the words more carefully as it was not meant to be a negative statement. TY for the clarification.
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Shadow Weaver
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11-16-2004 10:46
From: someone It sounded like an accusation and attack as to what you believe this could lead to. I.E. attacking her govt. If I misread what you thoughts were I apologize. Please clarify your thoughts. Thanks. Acutally Billy the context of what you read was short sited as you failed to add the follow on comentary as the whole context of the subject. For example. My statement was. From: someone If this is the case I need to start my AG Party now and actively defend my space of SL against corruption of a power mad government(whether its yours and Ulrika's or anyone elese's) that seeks to take my rights away from me. The sub context of the statment where I itterated the word Whether...to convey meaning to the subject of if the government falls into that catagory. Again "If" being the primary relevance to the subject at hand. From: someone (whether its yours and Ulrika's or anyone elese's) Now had I left that bracketed text out and simply said. From: someone If this is the case I need to start my AG Party now and actively defend my space of SL against corruption of a power mad government that seeks to take my rights away from me. Then yes I would agree that the context would seem conflicting however it was not left out the entire context was meant as stated and continues to stand as far as I am concerend. Thus clearly in my retort here I have restated and yet I have not redefined my orginal context and intent. I hope this clears of the summary of my thoughts for you. Shadow
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-16-2004 10:51
Shadow, You retort like nobody's business  I love your posts.
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Shadow Weaver
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11-16-2004 10:53
shhhhs cris dont say that they will think Im smart or somtin like dat.
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11-16-2004 11:06
From: Jai Nomad *considers asking Linden to support/sponsor an underground liberal anarchist meritocracy Sim* Linden support for an underground liberal anarchist meritocracy? You're asking Linden Lab to support bleeding-edge, progressive, technical entrepreneurialism designed to "free" consumers? You're asking Linden Lab to sponsor itself? Ah, so! The Anarchist Movement is a Linden front! The outlines of the Conspiracy begin to emerge....
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Leyla Firefly
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11-16-2004 11:30
I think the Lindens find us a bunch of boring people (read all the no-drama profiles  ) and this is their way to sponsor more excitement, drama and soapopera stuff into SL... I don't care even if Ulirika or whoever becomes the queen of SL, this is not real life, we have this nice 'Quit' button to push if things get annoying. Beware of huge game-egos, they mostly aint cooking nothing in real life. 
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Cristiano Midnight
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11-16-2004 12:04
From: Leyla Firefly I think the Lindens find us a bunch of boring people (read all the no-drama profiles  ) and this is their way to sponsor more excitement, drama and soapopera stuff into SL... I don't care even if Ulirika or whoever becomes the queen of SL, this is not real life, we have this nice 'Quit' button to push if things get annoying. Beware of huge game-egos, they mostly aint cooking nothing in real life.  Darko is already the Queen of SL. Ulrika would become Monarch, as she prefers gender equal roles and titles 
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Leyla Firefly
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11-16-2004 12:16
Owkee... *bows for Queen Darko* *bows for King Ulrika*
Hope i meet them in SL some day, but as i am the most boring woman around and never move from my little corner in Koss, it's a very small chance... or is that 'there is a very small chance' Ah well... learning English from online games and forums can be confusing.
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-16-2004 12:25
From: Kris Ritter I really like Darko too. Its just I wanna kick him in the nuts now next time I see him. AND I gave him a free tshirt the other day. pfffft. Haha. Kris the shirt said "TOO MUCH DAMAGE WILL BRAIN YOUR POT". You gave me a shirt that implies I have brain damage (or will have it if I keep blazing everyday) and I am supposed to thank you? I really didn’t know what to do when you gave it to me. After reading your post I can only assume you thought it was funny and gave it to me out of the kindness of your heart. So let me take this time to thank you for the wonderful shirt! 
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11-16-2004 12:27
From: Darko Cellardoor Haha. Kris the shirt said "TOO MUCH DAMAGE WILL BRAIN YOUR POT". You gave me a shirt that implies I have brain damage (or will have it if I keep blazing everyday) and I am supposed to thank you? I really didn’t know what to do when you gave it to me. After reading your post I can only assume you thought it was funny and gave it to me out of the kindness of your heart. So let me take this time to thank you for the wonderful shirt!  Kris enjoys the buddha thai too Papi.  That said, I am woried about those man breasts associated with heavy mota use.. 
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11-16-2004 12:27
OMG, he's here Finaly meet him 
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-16-2004 12:29
From: Nolan Nash Kris enjoys the buddha thai too Papi.  That said, I am woried about those man breasts associated with heavy mota use..  Haha. Suck my titties Hippie Nash! 
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-16-2004 12:31
Btw I am very excited about the Zugzwang project! I have already joined the group (thank you Ulrika) and am ready to get it in on politically speaking. 
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Nolan Nash
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11-16-2004 12:31
From: Darko Cellardoor Haha. Suck my titties Hippie Nash!  First you have to take the nipple pumps off.... 
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Haney Linden
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11-16-2004 12:35
From: Shadow Weaver ....So with that said I would like for either Phillip or Robin to speak up in reference to this experiment because a lot of people are getting it misconstrued and are blowing things out of porportion.
To my knowledge at this point this is what I know.
The lindens are assisting Ulrika by offering them land in which to set up their community as an experiment in governmental system. To my knowledge any body seeking to create their own autonomous government has the same opportunity.
Ulrika's Government is to be kept within the confines of that demographic sim and its followers are subject to it's rules while engaging in activities in "THAT" sim alone.
The questions I would like answered is if Ulrika's "Experiment" seems to work will this be forced on the rest of SL and if so what is the time frame for the conclusion of the experiment. Also when what would the time frame for a decision to implement it into main stream SL if this is LL backing and goals.
In one stance I am all for Ulrika getting her little govermental power trip play ground.
On the other though it frightens me that if Linden Lab is supporting this to have it eventually flood into SL main stream we are in danger of loosing what some of us love so dearly.
Anyway thats simply my .02$
Sincerely, Shadow Weaver Linden offered land to any group that was willing to build in a way that would preserve the snow theme. Ulrika Zugzwang's group was the only applicant that was willing to put together enough land allocation contribution to pay the land tier. As long as the buildings stay in theme and the members break no rules, then they are free to behave in any way they want. It was not our intent to experiment in government but we have no trouble with it.
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-16-2004 12:38
Haney keep feeding us the straight dope!
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11-16-2004 12:42
From: Darko Cellardoor Haha. Kris the shirt said "TOO MUCH DAMAGE WILL BRAIN YOUR POT". You gave me a shirt that implies I have brain damage (or will have it if I keep blazing everyday) and I am supposed to thank you? I really didn’t know what to do when you gave it to me. After reading your post I can only assume you thought it was funny and gave it to me out of the kindness of your heart. So let me take this time to thank you for the wonderful shirt!  NICE!! 
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11-16-2004 12:56
From: Nolan Nash Kris enjoys the buddha thai too Papi.  I did not know. That is fantastic. 
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Shadow Weaver
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11-16-2004 13:05
Thank you Haney, that should clear the air for awhile.
And there you have it folks. Speculation put to rest.
For Kendra and Ulrika sincere heartfelt good luck.
We may be at odds over government in SL. However as you can see, I will try to put to rest any improper speculation that may be debunking your efforts by requesting information and defining what most see as the issue.
For anyone that thinks I hate player controlled GOVERNMENTs...I do cant misconstrue that.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-16-2004 13:17
I think the idea of creating a SL gov't is a little premature. IMO
Cath
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11-16-2004 13:34
From: Shadow Weaver Thank you Haney, that should clear the air for awhile.
And there you have it folks. Speculation put to rest.
For Kendra and Ulrika sincere heartfelt good luck.
We may be at odds over government in SL. However as you can see, I will try to put to rest any improper speculation that may be debunking your efforts by requesting information and defining what most see as the issue.
For anyone that thinks I hate player controlled GOVERNMENTs...I do cant misconstrue that. Thankyou. Still I'd have rather you took me at my word. Haney did no more than say exactly what I've stated all along, that the primaryinterest the Lindens have in Neualtenburg is that it looks real pretty in the snow.
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Juro Kothari
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11-16-2004 13:53
From: Catherine Cotton I think the idea of creating a SL gov't is a little premature. IMO
Cath Why?
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Kris Ritter
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11-16-2004 14:07
From: Darko Cellardoor Haha. Kris the shirt said "TOO MUCH DAMAGE WILL BRAIN YOUR POT". You gave me a shirt that implies I have brain damage (or will have it if I keep blazing everyday) and I am supposed to thank you? I really didn?t know what to do when you gave it to me. After reading your post I can only assume you thought it was funny and gave it to me out of the kindness of your heart. So let me take this time to thank you for the wonderful shirt!  Oh lighten up dude. It was teh funneh. I dunno why I sent it to you really. As they say 'I made this tshirt and thought of you', but then I was high as a fucking kite at the time.
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11-16-2004 14:09
From: Kris Ritter Oh lighten up dude. It was teh funneh. I dunno why I sent it to you really. As they say 'I made this tshirt and thought of you', but then I was high as a fucking kite at the time. No it was mean you should not make fun of handicapped people!
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