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JackBurton Faulkland
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11-04-2005 08:52
From: Willow Zander
I don't wanna cause drama!
From: someone

No Drama! Man these forums would be really boring then! :D
Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,492
11-04-2005 09:00
From: Jsecure Hanks
Yeah, we all know what's coming next for that neutralburg dive place of hers... Swastika anyone?

I misread diva instead of dive, that would have been funnier. :D
Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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11-04-2005 09:05
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
It's also a private group forum for the citizens of the city -- not for you to pop in and toss about insults. Had you been a citizen, I admit that the post would have stayed.

~Ulrika~

Interesting that you left Jsecure's posts though. Makes one wonder.
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
11-04-2005 09:06
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Just to confuse this whole discussion, I would like to point out that you have a mass murderer as your forum icon.


Charles Manson didn't kill anyone. Just clarifying.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
11-04-2005 09:06
From: Willow Zander
Well someones upset Ulrika!

Resignation

FOR SHAME!

Stepping down again?

I would just like to point out that calling people dense, uneducated, or one of the myriad of other attacks upon people's intelligence I have seen the Dynamik Duo make in the past few days constitute logical fallacies. The duo is quite quick to point out other people's logical fallacies, yet commit the ad hominem fallacy (among others) frequently themselves. Shocker.

Of course, now I may be accused of making the Tu Quoque fallacy. Quite intriguing how those fallacies can be used so cleverly by those who like to wield them as weapons constantly, isn't it?

Using Your Knowledge

In your day-to-day life you will encounter many examples of fallacious reasoning. And it's fun - and sometimes even useful - to point to an argument and say, "A ha! That argument commits the fallacy of false dilemma."

It may be fun, but it is not very useful. Nor is it very enlightened.

The names of the fallacies are for identification purposes only. They are not supposed to be flung around like argumentative broadswords. It is not sufficient to state that an opponent has committed such-and-such a fallacy. And it is not very polite.

This Guide is intended to help you in your own thinking, not to help you demolish someone else's argument. When you are establishing your own ideas and beliefs, evaluate them in the light of the fallacies described here.

When evaluating the ideas and arguments proposed to you by others, keep in mind that you need to prove that the others' reasoning is fallacious. That is why there is a 'proof' section in the description of each fallacy. The 'proof' section is intended to give you a mechanism for showing that the reasoning is flawed. Apply the methodology described in the 'proof' section to the passage in question. Construct your own argument. Use this argument - not the name of the fallacy - to respond.


http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/


From: Ulrika Zugswang
...intollerant...

What is "intollerant"?

OH ZING! I must be immediately promoted to the rank of Lieutenant Hyper-intellectual!
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Pendari Lorentz
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Join date: 5 Sep 2003
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11-04-2005 09:09
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Ask your queen. I was one of the deletees.


Were you one of the ones advocating the griefing of our Sim by script bombing it? I missed the thread before it was thankfully deleted.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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Join date: 1 Jul 2004
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11-04-2005 09:10
From: Pendari Lorentz
Were you one of the ones advocating the griefing of our Sim by script bombing it? I missed the thread before it was thankfully deleted.

No, I simply pointed out that Ulrika's hypocrisy was shining bright and it was promptly deleted. BTW, I'm appalled you could even imagine that I would have got behind such an idea.
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Margaret Mfume
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11-04-2005 09:12
From: Chance Abattoir
Charles Manson didn't kill anyone. Just clarifying.

Yep. He had minions to do the dirty work.
Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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11-04-2005 09:14
From: Margaret Mfume
Yep. He had minions to do the dirty work.

Squeak.
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Lecktor Hannibal
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11-04-2005 09:15
From: Margaret Mfume
Yep. He had minions to do the dirty work.

As any maniacal dictator should.
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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11-04-2005 09:16
From: Nolan Nash
Squeak.

The mouse that roared?
Pendari Lorentz
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11-04-2005 09:16
From: Nolan Nash
Stepping down again?


I have been with the project since about day 10. That is well over a year, and I have never seen Ulrika step down before. So I'm not sure why you would say "again"?
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Margaret Mfume
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11-04-2005 09:17
From: Lecktor Hannibal
As any maniacal dictator should.

Divas and goddesses, too. Don't forget them. :p
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
11-04-2005 09:18
From: Nolan Nash
I would just like to point out
I have been slain by your personal attack and undeniably accurate argument. You stand as victor over my crumpled corpse. By pointing out my hypocrisy you have invalidated all of my arguments and reduced me to a shell of who I once was. All hail Nolan, Lord of ZING! Your victory is complete and your reign unchallenged.

~Ulrika~
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-04-2005 09:18
From: Lecktor Hannibal
No, I simply pointed out that Ulrika's hypocrisy was shining bright and it was promptly deleted. BTW, I'm appalled you could even imagine that I would have got behind such an idea.


As much as I know how much you dislike Ulrika, I was astonished to think for a minute there that you could have advocated what was presented. I'm glad to hear you did not, and I did not want to assume either way. So that is why I asked.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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11-04-2005 09:18
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Interesting that you left Jsecure's posts though. Makes one wonder.
I thought I deleted all those! I'll be right back...

~Ulrika~
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Chance Abattoir
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11-04-2005 09:19
From: Nolan Nash
Construct your own argument. Use this argument - not the name of the fallacy - to respond.
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So instead of saying "Strawman!" we should say "You're putting words in my mouth."
... ?
I guess that could work and I could see why it would be elitist before the internet to point out logical fallacies. But there are search engines now. I don't think it is elitist to point out certain logical fallacies if they are really committed. They shouldn't be relied upon as the basis of an argument, but there's nothing wrong with pointing out that someone is missing the issue. *(And aren't you relying upon pointing out logical fallacy as the basis of your argument when you say Ulrika is using logical fallacy and therefore can't point out logical fallacy?)

By the way, why are you quoting datanation like it's a bible passage? Does the person who wrote that really deserve jurisdiction over your thoughts?
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Lecktor Hannibal
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11-04-2005 09:19
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I thought I deleted all those! I'll be right back...

~Ulrika~

Shine bright north star !
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Margaret Mfume
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11-04-2005 09:22
From: Pendari Lorentz
I have been with the project since about day 10. That is well over a year, and I have never seen Ulrika step down before. So I'm not sure why you would say "again"?

? I read an thread to that effect back when she announced her pregancy. Obviously I missed the thread indicating otherwise.
Chance Abattoir
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11-04-2005 09:25
From: Margaret Mfume
Yep. He had minions to do the dirty work.


Or so the D.A. has led us to believe. :)
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Pendari Lorentz
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11-04-2005 09:31
From: Margaret Mfume
? I read an thread to that effect back when she announced her pregancy. Obviously I missed the thread indicating otherwise.


She had to step back on a lot of the things she had been doing for the project. And most of her work was going to involve her not being in-world doing things. That is a lot different than her actually resigning her government position AND her citizenship. :(
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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11-04-2005 09:31
From: Margaret Mfume
? I read an thread to that effect back when she announced her pregancy. Obviously I missed the thread indicating otherwise.
I have never left nor publicly stated I would leave the project until today. Now that I'm gone maybe they'll finally sell that sim out. ;)

~Ulrika~
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Chance Abattoir
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11-04-2005 09:34
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Your victory is complete and your reign unchallenged.


Maybe he wouldn't be so war-like and angry atop that hill if his stubby arms could reach his peepee. :D
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Jauani Wu
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11-04-2005 10:44
(not) having read this thread in it's entirety i declare ulrika and kendra the winners. i give their performace ****1/2

i particularly like the part where ulrika dropped the mass murderer bit on lecktor and when coco said "i agree with ingrid." great script. would read again
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Kendra Bancroft
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11-04-2005 10:48
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I have never left nor publicly stated I would leave the project until today. Now that I'm gone maybe they'll finally sell that sim out. ;)

~Ulrika~



My own personal feeling is that in causing you to leave, Neualtenburg has already "sold out" :mad:

I'm beyond disgusted.
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