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RyeDin Meiji
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10-11-2005 13:54
Thank you Nber! And thank you MarkTwain! Sunday's meeting went extremely well, and was set in the best venue we could have asked for. You guys are doing a great job out there in Hollywood, really a beautiful sim. Keep up the good work. I want to also thank everyone for coming on Sunday, it was one of our best turnouts to date. We are continuing to gain momentum and it's perfectly clear that we have enough support in the community to be successful. I have been extremely busy at work so far this week, so have not had a chance to post a summarization of the meeting notes yet. I'll try to get to it tomorrow! Thanks for your gracious understanding that RL sometimes supercedes anything we may aspire to accomplish in SL  It's truly a balancing act.
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Ket Gould
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10-12-2005 08:27
RyeDin... Assuming the due's are mellow (I'm still basic and have yet to figure out a money path in the game and I am quite new)... I would like to get involved in the Foundation in a few ways.. - Web Creation (would be more than happy to code up a CMS system for the foundation) (at this point I could host it, but I could not provide URL registration but i can do a redirect) - Think Tank efforts I am very interested in the streaming technologies in SL both audio and video to create a more "rich" enviorment. Being a Musician/DJ and PodCast (essentialy internet radio) enthusiast this fits in well with my hobbies - Orginizational efforts If your interested, drop me a line 
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Jsecure Hanks
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10-12-2005 08:29
Hi Ket, if you need cheap streaming check my site at http://www.jddlan.com/streaming.phpI supply a large number of clubs and societies in SL with many gigabytes of streaming radio every month 
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RyeDin Meiji
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10-12-2005 08:37
Ket, as of now there are no "dues" for membership. We know there are many people who have great ideas for helping the foundation, and dues would be prohibitive to getting as much help as possible...
With that said, one major component I feel we'll need to succeed is indeed a website for listing our news, upcoming events schedule, financial logs, etc... So if you'd like to contribute in that way it would be huge! Please PM me here in the forums to discuss details. Also, you should come to our meetings, every Sunday at 1PM game time at MarkTwain White's island sim "Hollywood" As far as streaming, JSecure Hanks offers some great services there.
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Ket Gould
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10-12-2005 08:57
No insult to JSecure of course, but I can also do streaming hosting.... So im covered there if needed and also going to be selling it... (EEEK... Compitition among the foundation). Friendly Compition is good. I'm just doing it on the side and also offering consulting soooo no big deal. Anyway yea... Take a look at my post on the "Services Page" I listed some demo (just outright demo no content) system and some systems that are/where actualy being used to give a range of what packages I like to use and what each can do. Take a peek and tell me how complex you want the system just so I can get a feel. you have PM's turned off, or I would PM my email 
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Nethermind Bliss
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Rich Content and Live Music
10-12-2005 11:53
I am a longtime supporter of what I have defined as "rich content" in Second Life, and I have worked to promote live music in SL since the first week of my join date in December 2004. I have a question for this group, and the answer will probably determine whether I devote an unhealthy amount of time to volunteering in your group (and I hope that this is the case), or if I will just go my own way to achieve my goals.
Recently, an accomplished musician in SL (also a good friend) came back from an FFRC meeting, and he told me that it was his understanding that live music wasn't really high on your list for support. I think he got the impression that live music wasn't a major example of culturally invigorating content to the FFRC. Is this the case? Surely he misunderstood, and your group sees the incredible artistic potential for fostering this genre of "rich content" in Second Life? Beyond academic discussion, the reason why I ask for clarification is pragmatic. Live music, in my opinion, is in a very critical stage of growth, and musicians desperately need a unified method to support and promote their events. Clubs need encouragement (financial aid) to help book these artists, too. I believe that the FFRC could help make those things happen.
Even though I have been heavily involved in thinker groups, poetry workshops, and visual art gallery openings, live music in Second Life will always be my foremost passion. I am interested in your response, and I hope our goals are more alike than disalike.
Respectfully, Nethermind Bliss
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Gabe Lippmann
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10-12-2005 12:08
Nethermind, The FFRC would not want to give the impression that live music doesn't qualify as the type of unique and wonderful content we would like to support. I have personally brought this up and felt the group response was favorable. As a regular attendee of events by musicians such as Frogg M, Astrin Few, Singer T., etal, I can say that more events of this nature should be encouraged. I know that meetings can be confusing given the communication tools, but we should be making available (soon, I hope) some general guidelines as to what we are looking for in events. Please find me inworld if you want to talk further regarding this. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. GL 
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RyeDin Meiji
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10-12-2005 12:14
Nethermind,   Huge misunderstanding if someone came out of one of our meetings thinking live music was not something we support, or not a high priority to us. Live music is perhaps the epitomic example of what "rich" content is. Be that as it may, what perhaps your friend got hung up on was the fact that we are not solely dedicating our efforts to this type of event. We will provide support to the musicians and to the clubs alike. We will, however, also support things like sailing, primtionary, poetry, first person shooters, airplane races, bumper cars, cooking classes, underwater basket weaving, or whatever other diverse, interactive, creative things people come to us asking for help with. Each person in SL is going to hold a certain type of content high up on a pedestal above everything else. I'm highly into scripting so I think great technical achievements in scripting, like Jeffrey Gomez's Primmies game, are the bees knees. Others are primarily into live music. The FFRC is always going to have a limited amount of resources, thus we will always be forced to pick and choose the areas we spend the most time (and funding) on. It's going to be a balancing act, like so many other things in life. The best thing I think I can say, Nethermind, is that we will do our best to ensure live music gets supported. The level to which that happens will be highly dependent on the level of input and support we get from people like you and your friend. Which is to say, this group is yours as much as it is mine or anybody else's. Come to the meetings, join the in-world group and help where and when you can. That's what we so desparately need to really be a success!! -Rye
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Persephone Phoenix
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Arts and Culture
10-12-2005 12:40
I think there must have been a major communication error, there, Nether. I was looking at articulating what funding stream applications might look like and performing arts (into which music, theatre, spoken word and whatnot would all fall) was one of the three I would like to see us publicize. I would like to see us give support of various types to those seeking to promote arts and culture in SL, though others are more interested in defining the work we want to see as rich content so as not to put someone off who might have a great idea for an innovative event but not see it as arts or culture, themselves. (Some folks find the term art intimidating, as is evidenced by the narrow use of that category in the events calendar.) I myself view culture pretty broadly, and pay out of pocket (and will continue to: I will never seek FFRC funds, since I am an officer of theorg) for events to run at my spa that reflect that wide-ranging view but my interest really is in promoting arts in sl. My background is interactive arts and it is my passion. The committee is made of people who are quite diverse in interest and tastes, though, and is open to the public. If you want to make sure live music is represented, hop on board, friend!  all members will get the chance to vote on proposals and will be welcomed to make suggestions on policies and procedures. I believe in this thing enough to have given 10,000 L of my dough as seed money and would love to see it go to promote arts in sl but there are folks who have all kinds of interests and we are deciding stuff as a whole committee. We'll be discussing at next sunday's meeting funding streams, so your input would be great. Join the FFRC, Nether.  You will then be most effective in putting forward your interests. The content we can support will only be limited, i think, by the resources we have. The more people on board, the more resources. I for one am very very interested in seeing live music supported and i'm sure others feel the same. I think the only comment that might have been made to indicate that this wouldn't be the case was when someone said that some weeks our support might be 70% music and others not so, but that, i think, would be only referring to financial support. who knows how it will go? we're still shaping it. come lend a hand to that and see what happens, would be my suggestion.  Cheers and best wishes, ~Persephone From: Nethermind Bliss Recently, an accomplished musician in SL (also a good friend) came back from an FFRC meeting, and he told me that it was his understanding that live music wasn't really high on your list for support. I think he got the impression that live music wasn't a major example of culturally invigorating content to the FFRC. Is this the case? Surely he misunderstood, and your group sees the incredible artistic potential for fostering this genre of "rich content" in Second Life?
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RyeDin Meiji
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10-12-2005 13:32
Before I start with this post, let it be known that I am not referring to any individual's past comments, just to a mass stigma that I fear may be forming around the FFRC which I feel could potentially harm our mission. I'd like to clarify something about the FFRC so no one gets the wrong ideas. I've heard quite a few references now to this concept of something being (or not being) "cultural", and quite a few people seem to think we are a "culture" committee in the standard sense of the word as imposed on us by modern society. In other words, things like fine art, opera, theatre and music are, according to this misperception I'm referring to, exclusively supported by the FFRC (or exclusively not supported depending on who is making the assumption). Now, this misperception may or may not actually exist in any one person's mind at the moment, but I can see where it may be gaining a little steam, so it is my purpose to squash it here. "Culture" in Second Life is quite different than the conventional RL definition. Second Life and it's denizens comprise an entirely new culture. In this new culture, there exists some of the normal, shall we say lower forms of entertainment (e.g. sex, gambling etc..). There are also some of the normal forms of high entertainment like the arts, music and philosophical debate (this is what we would refer to as "culture" in RL). But then there are so many things that are not seen anywhere else. So many things that some people may not view as "cultural", but are nonetheless undeniably, beyond a shadow of a doubt, extremely "rich". We are not exclusively a culture club. We are not the FFCC, we are the FFRC. To quote a line from our charter statement: "We are united in a common goal, which is to foster diversity and richness in content and events in Second Life." So the very point of this post is to say "Hey, if you are into arts and culture and have an event you want us to help you support, then we're for you. But hey, if you shy away from that stuff and you're more into [insert other rich, diverse content description here], and you have an event you want us to help you support, then we're for you as well" And yes, this virtual world is filled with people whose ideas vary greatly as to what "rich and diverse" might mean. But it's not a huge struggle to look at the current state of events in SL and see that someone coming to the FFRC for a grant to hold a Tringo tournament is not quite getting the picture. While Tringo is an important part of the culture of SL, it is everywhere. So I think the voting body of the FFRC (which is anyone who comes to our meetings) will easily be able to come to a majority decision in most cases. We are simply providing a framework of support, content guidelines, and a mechanism to effect positive change.
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Persephone Phoenix
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Is culture synonymous with rich content?
10-12-2005 17:01
I'm glad Rye said he wasn't responding to anyone post. I'm feeling a bit sheepish that I might have overstated arts and culture in previous posts without clarifying what I mean by that. Culture, by definition, is any learned activity that in some way shapes or defines a given society. Since we have so many micro societies within SL it makes sense that culture is super varied.
I may be interested in arts that are interactive and that affirm a cultural value of inclusion. Others may be interested in arts that are less interactive and affirm a cultural value of excellence. Still others may be interested in a variation of Myst or some other game that affirms a cultural value of problem solving, visual aesthetic, or whatever it may be. I have used the term culture to get to the issue of rich content because to me it seems the same thing. I see no difference between arts and culture and rich content, but I hear how some people may be put off by the term, thinking i'm talking about opera, when i might well be talking about maze building, yodeling, traditional tea serves, mud wrestling, and game scripting. I think that Rich Content will primarily be defined by the applications we receive and the people who vote on those applications.
In short, culture is varied, in and outside of SL. Is rich content arts and culture? What do you folks think? There may be a difference, though I do not see one. Is arts and culture rich content? I'd say absolutely.
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Pratyeka Muromachi
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10-15-2005 09:03
Can't find any transcripts of past meeting. Are there any and where can I find them? Any progress on a list of what would be considered "rich content" events supported by the foundation? Any first event planned by the foundation yet?
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RyeDin Meiji
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10-18-2005 06:29
Prat, I believe Gabe dropped some info on you in-game. Thanks for your renewed interest. I have the transcript from the meeting on the 9th, which Gabe was not here for. There has been a great deal of discussion on the list of supported events and event types. We have not yet published a set in stone criteria guidelines document yet. We are aiming to get off the ground 100% by the end of October. It takes some time to prepare and organize, get processes in place and all that good stuff. We have a decent amount of start-up funding. We have tons of people behind us. It's all looking really quite good.
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Jsecure Hanks
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10-18-2005 06:32
Do you need any free scripts? If you need any give me a forum private message or reply 
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mexxa Woyseck
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10-18-2005 11:07
If you are really interested in getting donations why not create a few unique items and auction them off. Or setup and oxfam like project, where you have a shop that takes donations (we need emploees who can work shifts who moderate what is allowed in) and then sells that a fairly cheap price. Possibly nearly finished works that we finish and sell.
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RyeDin Meiji
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10-18-2005 11:14
mexxa, that is a really cool idea. That's 1 thing we are going to need down the road, a permanent home for a meeting building, information repository and possibly some kind of fund raising central store like you mentioned. Right now, it's mostly a matter of all people within the group coming together and finding the time and energy to go forward steadily. It's an arduous task to say the least. 
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mexxa Woyseck
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10-18-2005 11:48
If some-one offered the land I would happily make the building and get it started but for some strange reason I doubt people would be that generous, we could start by renting an area in a shopping center (or talk to the manager about the project for cheap prices?) and get some signs up at sandboxes. Hopefully people would get the idea we mend models (and scripts if people can be found to do it). I could upload a bunch of textures and sell them as well. I think if we could offer a noob package for 50L we could promote ourselves to nubs as well.
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kaia Ennui
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Event, etc.
11-17-2005 14:32
first event is planned for this saturday at 3 pm in Akasha Village's Winn Park.
The event is an INTERACTIVE DRUM AND DANCE CIRCLE. Trinity Cole donated the use of the land and Robbie Dingo is loaning his amazing elven drum sets for our enjoyment.
The drums are amazing each with several patterns sampled from RL drums. The drums synch up with one another allowing the drummers to create their own experience rich in sound.
Move your spirits to the beat of the drums! Find out more about FFRC! Get Free shirt, rock paper scissors game (donated by Huddles) and just do something unique. These drums have a hypnotic, relaxing effect. I have regular drum circles in my store and people comment on how addicting and awesome they are. This event will be a blast, dont miss it!
I have placed an ad in Metavers Messenger this week and if anyone from FFRC cares to post Event Announcement elsewhere in forums, please feel free. I'm not a forum addict so I don't know if it belongs somewhere besides here. Thanks!
OFF TOPIC - 1- i had to miss last meeting so I would like to read transcript of chat history...where is it? 2- thank you to Gabe!!!!! I had the opportunity to see the land he has purchased and set up with amazing offices, outdoor meeting area and plenty of land for future events. I must say I was blown away, its simply gorgeous!!! You rock, Gabe. Sorry I missed the meeting, but I hope you were recognized for your efforts.
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Persephone Phoenix
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forgot to clear permission
11-17-2005 16:28
we forgot to affirm with everyone that they were ok with having their comments published in the chat log last week, so I will post a version of the agenda that lists action items and important discussion, and we also decided to make sure that the agendas simply include a reminder to ask for permissions right at the top.
Yay about the kick off event. It will be fun! Did you see the PG land too? FFRC is now a physical presence in both the PG and Mature segments of Second Life. yayy to Gabe and Thea.
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kaia Ennui
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11-17-2005 18:08
ooo now i haven't seen the PG land yet! that's awesome! yay thea and thanx!
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Gabe Lippmann
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11-19-2005 15:04
Drumming Circle on now! Come over and groove in Weber, learn more about FFRC or just stare at the funny drummers! 
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FFRC Cash Flow Statement to date
11-20-2005 09:55
Foundation for Rich Content YTD Nov 20, 2005 Cash Flow Statement
Beginning Cash Balance $L0 Cash Inflows (Income): Donations 32,420 Sponsorship Funds 30,000 Sales & Receipts 0 Other: 600 Total Cash Inflows $L63,020
Cash Outflows (Expenses): Funding of Approved Applications 2,000 FFRC Event Funding 0 SLCC Expense 8,400 Miscellaneous 21 Other: 0 Subtotal $L10,421 Other Cash Out Flows: Refunds 8,000 Subtotal $L8,000 Total Cash Outflows $L18,421 Ending Cash Balance $L44,599
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Persephone Phoenix
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Meeting Minutes from Nov 13
11-20-2005 12:55
FFRC AGENDA
1. Funding Stream Applications 1.1 Learn to Sail was approved 1.2 Signage Perse will ask sponsors for logos Carl will take on the sponsor sign object 2. Kick off event 2.1 Event Report--Gabe reported (event scheduled for saturday) 3. Build for Group Land 3.1 Purpose & build (who, etc) 3.1 Mexxa build for the PG land (Perse will ask him) 3.2 Thanks to gabe for the new build and mature group land 3.3 Nber asked about procedure with place decisions and expressed Hollywood's hope that we would continue to use their space. It was affirmed that applicants seeking space requirements would be referred to Hollywood as well as the FFRC Group Land. 3.2 Meetings 3.1 FFRC agreed to strive for pg land meetings
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mexxa Woyseck
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11-20-2005 13:42
Sorry guys, my secondlife messed up again. I need to uninstall and install again. If some-one could possbly trade me the location of the land(I forgot to make a landmark >_< and no-one was online with it whilst I was availiable). I should be able to get something done this week but atm I have no idea where to build.
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RyeDin Meiji
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11-21-2005 09:59
Hello to all my friends in SL and especially the FFRC! I just wanted to make a formal apology for my sudden departure from SL for the last month... and also say that I am still alive, and have not forgotten anyone It's so good to see the FFRC still alive and kicking, and it looks like it's making some amazing progress! Thanks you guys! I will be able to make a limited return to SL soon, but it is my commitments to my family and RL job that have been keeping me away and I cannot guarantee anything as far as SL goes. Family things have been going on and I've just needed to ground myself back in reality before making major commitments in SL  It's such a great thing that so many people rallied behind the idea of the FFRC before all this hit, because I love the thought of coming back to SL and seeing the FFRC going strong. Anyway, that's it really. I do sincerely feel bad for not having given a good explanation before. I hope I'll still be welcome to participate when I do get back in-world 
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