Watch your newsstands this week!

In this case it's a small quibble you mean? As opposed to the instances in the past when it deserved to turn into some kind of forum rant?

No, it's a moronic, silly, inefficient point.

And that's the greater point. You were being inconsistent by not being furious.

Oh, that there was a PetGirl Magazine

Did you find a Tina (Christina) magazine??? Thats my real name..

You're not going insane, Enabran. Just listen and learn.

Thinking some more on this, here is what would be even better in terms of media approaches:

Catherine vets them for those she would like to help. In other words, SL may wish to cooperate with Fortune or Memory Makers, but not be so eager to help, say, the type of magazine that might show up in truck stops, featuring pages of squirting mammaries, or some such.

That is their right.

For those they do give the green light to, it would be good if they then allowed to them write what is being looked for, and then reprint it verbatim.

The reason I say this is most forums are not closed. When I am looking for individuals through a website, I generally use the portion of the website devoted to media calls. If there isn't such a portion, I contact the person/people running the site and make sure it is ok with their policy for me to post my request on one of the forums.

By posting my own request, I get more exactly the type of people I'm looking for, plus the potential respondants get more of a feel for that, as well as for the type of person who will be interviewing them.

The website always agrees, and I post it. Here, though, they can't post unless they are already a player; hence to need to repost it for them.

As SL grows larger and media interest grows with it, this would be a more efficient solution, too. They still don't have to cooperate with the giant mammary magazines. But ultimately, they won't be able to run interference between every legitimate media outlet and us - it's too time-consuming and not really in anyone's best interest. Best just to let the magazine writer write up a little post and they pass it on in the PR Suggestion Box, along with that writer's e-mail.

Ultimately, it's best to just "let go and let the media," and this is how to do it. They can still just say no to the smarmy publications.

coco

What the...?

There are such magazines, Pol! I've seem them at truck stops! Unbelievable, huh.

coco

Cocoanutz,

There really is patern here.

It is just like your rant on people buying First Land with an alt. You ranted and raved about how immoral that practice was. Then you made an alt and bought first land and defended your position on the topic by saying in YOUR situation it was not wrong. Somehow when you bought more first land it became a moral thing to do. You even said it was your right.

Now on this topic, its the same crap.

I think we have a true political leader here.

Hmmm. Better change the SL residency requirements, then.


Another thought: If this is true, why doesn't LL vet people for their real world accomplishments? Seems to me like how they come off in the real world to a real world media outlet might be better predicted by how they are in the real world. Sounds like a collision of real/virtual realities....

Thank you for you input, Beauz.

coco

Do you know what a klein bottle is? Your argument (among other things) is a klein bottle wrapped in a mobius strip smothered in Soviet-style revisionist sauce.

Hmmm. Better change the SL residency requirements, then.

Another thought: If this is true, why doesn't LL vet people for their real world accomplishments? Seems to me like how they come off in the real world to a real world media outlet might be better predicted by how they are and what they've done in the real world. Otherwise, I predict a collision of real/virtual realities....

What the...?

It is not a small quibble, it is the crux of what you have been arguing about for months, however, in this circumstance, you seem to have blinders on to it. When opportunities have come up in the past, often times the Lindens have recommended those they were aware of.

In your much used Bedazzle example, they were recommended based upon their work on Chinatown and other projects, and established reputation. People always had opportunity to make the Lindens aware of their existence, by working hard and making yourself known - putting yourself and your work in front of them. This bothered you though - you said they should not pull from just those who they know, but open it to everyone. Your mantra, if you will.

In this case, they made a list that included people apparently who had replied to other opportunities. They were pulling from a pool of people they were previously aware of, based upon prior opportunities. Again, you could make them aware of your interest and just who you are by getting in front of them in some way - in this case submitting yourself and work for consideration. Again, they did not make anyone aware of this opportunity except those they previously knew from other things.

Do you know if Anshe specifically signed up for any of these, or if she was just submitted as a successful business owner? While it is a no-brainer, that again violates your argument about people not just being automatically submitted.

Once again, you had an opportunity that went to a group of previously known individuals. That is something that has always outraged you, and so your praise now about the exact same thing because it is your friend Prokofy rings very hollow to me. Nothing is different, yet it was a "problem" before that you have complained about repeatedly. Why is it not a "problem" now?

My friend, I urge caution. You risk being sucked into the klein bottle (and its assorted trimmings) if you let yourself think about it too much.

I think you speak for the entire forum with that question.

Oh it is crystal clear to me, no worries. Beau had it right, it is a pattern. Do as I say, not as I do.

The transparency is complete, yes, but the convolutions that give it form are... staggering beyond comprehension. It's something only to glance at, like the sun, not to contemplate or examine in great detail.

Then why waste so much time on this and other threads originated or commented in by the Big Seed?

Moths to the flame, I swear....

I do it just to attract a post from you - it makes the circle complete.

The deal, Cristiano, is SIMPLE.

They didn't HAVE the PR Suggestion Box before. Now they do.

They didn't HAVE the Developer's Directory before. Now they do.

Why do you have blinders on as to those two facts?

As to the contests, as far as I knew, they didn't have them before (though I wasn't sure on that point), but as soon as they had one during MY time in this game, I entered it.

If they had not announced it, I wouldn't have known to enter it. If they had just picked Joe Avatar, they would not have seen all the other submissions, all the other possibilities.

I see all this as terrific advances.

AND both Prok and I have benefitted from those advances.

Which part of all that do you not get?

Yes, it is true that they may still just recommend Anshe off the top of their heads. That is not the point. The point is, now they could recommend me as well, because there is a SYSTEM by which they bring this to my attention, and I enter myself for consideration.

That is a simple, simple, simple, concept. You are never going to accept it. You are going to say that all THIS is exactly the same way it ALWAYS was. But it is not; it just isn't.

And I'm happy with the way it is now. It has never been about whether or not Bedazzle or Anshe deserve their opportunities. OBVIOUSLY.

It has been about publicizing these opportunities to everyone, and they are doing a good job with that now. Deny it all you want, make it personal all you want (and you for sure will). But that is just the way it is. Things were one way before; now things are better.

And it's hardly unpredictable. Things were one way during beta; now, with pushing toward 90k members, things are going to change, whether you like it or not.

I say "yay". You don't. If you don't see the specific, concrete changes I listed, or see how Prok and I have personally benefited from them, as have others you aren't even thinking about, or see it all as exactly what we had before because the structure is of no importance to you, then that's not my problem.

Yes - the Lindens in the past recommended those they were aware of.

Yes - the Lindens now recommend those they are aware of.

Of COURSE.

The difference is, in the past, there was no structure in place for everyone to have the same opportunity to be made aware OF.

It is STILL a prerequisite to work hard and make yourself known. But now, it's simpler to submit your or yourself for consideration - anyone can do it. They can STILL reject you and your work. But at least they have the structure in place to bring these opportunities to your attention.

At least now you KNOW there even IS an opportunity at hand.

I'm tired of going over this. How about we just agree to disagree.

coco

p.s. to cocoa -- I feel sorry for you when reality finally hits.

This has been the most entertaining thread i've read in a long time lol. i guess my thoughts for what they may or may not be worth lol, are that i give kudos to those who still strive to be recognized, admired, revered and wtfevah else by customers for their work as opposed to what i consider to be the glory group. i'd rather have a real and valid good review in a reputable sl publication than a biased, trumped up, *because of who i am and know* interview in a reknowned magazine. go figger! lol

(and btw....jonquille and cristiano...you're my new heroes.........i love reading your responses!)

It's like banging your head against a brick wall trying to get some people to see the hypocrisy of their actions. I've run into it several times here. And ultimately, it really is a waste of time and it only gets frustrating for those who have enough logic to see it. I give up. The ignore button really IS your best option at a time like this.