Sould LL just ban the "Impeach Bush" guy?

Another way to stop this is to get the real president bush to create an account and then go to the lindens to complain about harrasment.

This guy be making fun of me! I demand you banish this evil doer! XD

(is only kidding in this post )

Good point. I wonder what the Lindens would do if those signs were up. Hmmmmm.....

But could the real president shrub, I mean bush, operate a computer properly, or would he refuse to come online on the grounds his former campaign competition invented the internet?

No one logging in for a day would send a strong message to the Lindens too.

Well i'll just be excitedly waiting for the day that, when mob rule takes over SL and a person can be banned for not having their land the way their neighbors want it, that we ban Anshe and all the land barons who do and have been doing the SAME thing across the grid except instead of "Impeach Bush" it says "FOR SALE".

This isn't about Freedom of Speach, it's about freedom of doing whatever the hell you want with the land you pay for. The Lindens don't want to ban him because where does it stop after that? We got Lazurus banned for not living up to his neighbor's expectations, how about the land barons who're doing the exact same thing as him? Maybe that pesky newbie who never learned how to build but doesn't have enough money for a prefab and just throw up an ugly looking home that you never liked? How about that other neighbor who has a relatively nice house, but you just don't like them so you want to get them kicked out via mob rule?

Oh this is a sticky situation indeed. For the most part I agree with you Artemis. Even tho ppl have brought up several issues that I also agree with. Land extortion for one. I am undecided if this is a free speech issue or not. If someone was bashing me and making me the center of attention for weeks on end I too would be angry. More so I probably would also have the mindset of "Fine you want me gone so bad, pay the high price I want to get rid of me!" I disagree with his statement about my President, yet I feel it's his land to do what he wants. Given the fact that its only 16m2 there is a whole 3 prims he has to work with. If he had put a big box with a loud buzzing noise on his property that bothered the neighbors (which I too have seen and heard) I would consider that an annoyance and a matter of griefing. "How can I build with this constant noise! argh" Mutes sound.

Your right there are a lot of buids across the grid that are exactly the same, some nice some not so nice. When is it ok to form a mob mentality to get rid of what we don't want to see? Personaly I don't think it's realy up to the ppl in SL nor should that final decision be left up to us. I think LL has to decide what steps over the line. At that point we can agree or disagree. What a person puts on their land should only be dictated by the CS and TOS of SL. I don't know that guy and I don't know if he has strong personal reasons for putting the signs up. I see them, I ignore them. This issue of political statements that I disagree with hits home with me. As much as I would like to strike back at this guy I believe we pay for our land in SL it's not RL and we have a choice to do what we want on that land. When we start dictating what ppl can put on their land within the CS and TOS then I feel we have slipped further into making SL nothing but another extention of RL. I think that is a mistake. If the sight of this guys boxes bothers ppl, perhaps they need to be a little creative to find a solution. A mural, A tall pipe, A sign above or below with the word "Not". There are many who own enough land around these signs to easily "box" the sign from view, also within the CS and TOS. There are option, but banning a player for their beliefs? I think that is a violation of common sense and a true democracy.

Last point I think this thread is a violaton of the TOS, only because we all know the name of the person this thread was aimed at. That's mob mentality and it's wrong to do to anyone.

Cat

Hold on a second here, in one breath people are speaking about a Democracy and in the next they're saying that we're only leasing land from the Lindens. This call should be up to Linden Labs and it's obvious that the individual in question is doing this to be an and underhanded arrogant sleeze. Many people have asked him to remove the signs kindly but have gotten nothing but attitude back.

I personally don't much care if I'm liked by this guy or not therefore I am not going to BE nice to him having this crap crammed down my throat and having to look at it every time I hop onto the land I pay cash out of my pocket. You can look at the guys information in his profile and he takes pride in the fact that he had a ton of negative ratings so that tells you what kind of individual we're all discussing here.

My issue with this whole situation is that it depreciates the value of the land that I am leasing from Linden Labs for one as nobody can build a decent looking place with a big blue sign rubbing political propaganda in your face; it's an obvious "turn off". Two, the reasons he's pulling this crap are completely underhanded and it's obvious what he's doing, anyone that can't see or understand this is obviously has an IQ about the same as their shoe size.

As far as banning this joker, I could care a less if he lives or dies... I just want crap like this out of my sight. To me what he's doing is just as bad as attacking any other individual on SL by posting up their names in a derragatory manner in public which I believe was even forbidden on these message boards on top of just being an all outright eye-sore. Isn't that a breach of the TOS btw as well if I recall and if it is, maybe things should be enforced.

Some kind of action or intervention from Linden Labs would be good at this point and settle this once and for all.

=FC

I completely agree with free speech. I am not American. I have my own personal views on Bush, but I don't wish to share them in Second Life. Last time I checked, there was no America IN SL. I just wanted to point out that I am pretty much a newbie, and I am currently looking for land. There were so many lots that I chose not to consider because there are big "IMPEACH BUSH" signs all around them. They're not pretty. And I'll be damned if I'm going to pay real money to buy land in SL to look at trash. It's not really fair to the people trying to sell the land around his signs.
And I think that political views outside of SL should be left OUT of SL.

isnt this dead yet? the post started dec 17 2005

Hmmm...I'm reading an awful about the infamous "imbeach bush" guy. People complaining about signs and one man even claiming he "griefed" his partner.

Now...of all of you that have ripped the man to shreds in these forums and are trying to get him banned from SL. How many of you actually KNOW him at all? Are any of you aware of the beautiful public park he is building on his land? At which, I might add, he is doing at own costs entirely. We're not talking about some little newbie plot with a gazebo on it. We're talking plot of land so big it reaches three separate sims, complete with beautiful landscaping, a welcome center currently under construction, and many other extras yet to be revealed.

Are you also aware of the fact he is an active volunteer in the community, teaching others and classes various techniques important to SL such as building?

And of you wanting to ban him...how many of you give back to our SL community even a fraction of what he does?

So you don't like his signs... I have one thing to say to you: GET OVER IT. There's a lot of eyesores floating all over SL that no one seems to complain about. It's his land folks. He can do what he wants with it- just as all of us can with our land. That's the beauty of SL; we are all allowed to express ourselves however we see fit. Some of us walk around as furries, gorreans, and vampires. Others build elaborate structures and call them home. The "impeach bush" guy does this by his signs.

I will leave you with an example. Recently at a club, I spent a great deal of time talking and dancing with a very freaky looking little alien. This alien looked very out of place in this particular enviornment and most stayed away from him. By the end of the evening, he added me to his friends list. The next night I recieved an IM from the alien. Imagine my shock to meet him at the club and find not an alien but a very handsome male avie. The alien wasn't "him" or even his normal avie- it was simply a playful way to express himself. Had I judged the alien by appearances I'd have missed out on the great person within.

Get to know the "impeach bush" guy before you pass judgement on him- you may be pleasantly surprised by what you find.

So extortion is ok as long as you spend the money on your own island and be nice to its visitors?