Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???

Apples....

and....

Oranges.

See. I'm personally not an ageplayer. It doesn't turn me on personally.

I don't find it odd. I don't find it sick....and I don't find it remotely like actual child molestation --of which I'm a survivor.

See --I know the difference between 2 computer nerds slapping pixels in kiddie skins and being an actual child that was actually being molested.

Obviously you do not. Get help.

I just have to say that I've got a friend who's avatar is a little girl.. not *all* ageplayers are into lollicon/sex w. adults.. so yeah. but yeah, some of them are creepy as hell.. Them:"will you change my diaper?" You:.......run

Herein, this definition, lies the exact problem of those complainers.
It's AGE play, not sex with child.

1. SL = adult game. There should be no kids on the main grid. If they are, AR and get them moved out. Final. This has set over and over again like a broken record.

2. An adult playing a child AV consentual having intercourse with another adult playing an adult AV. The only thing that could be considered wrong is this was done in a public place, exposing it to others, instead of doing in a private secluded home.

3. If a real kid would be having a CHILD av toon (count them?) is the adult to blame who should only have to deal with ADULTS (as advertized by LL)? No. If there is a party to blame, it would be LL.

A hypothetical age play scenario, a girl interested in a closer relationship with her father (played by REAL humans: female 32, father 5 using AVs: female child AV of 14 years of age (which is LEGAL btw in some countries except USA) and a grown up male AV toon of 30....

It's RP, it's age play. NO REAL CHILDREN INVOKED/HARMED.
No LAW can forbid that.

Yes, it may look sick, it might be considered wrong, so stop LOOKING for it.

If this is causing you problem understanding, then consider the following as well... Tom Cruise (44) and Katie Holmes (2, difference of 16 years... It could make Tom a pedophile (general considered to be love for youngsters) too (remember the example: 14/30, 28/44...) To some, the thought of "doing" something with a younger person should be punishable, bannable, and be brought to justice...

Katie/Tom is just an example... There are much more couples out there with a huge age difference, which could lead for close minded people to be considered "having pedophile traits"...

BAN TOM CRUISE!!!

Let me just state a few things.

1. I find age play (child & adult AVs engaging in sexual conduct) personally offensive as it derives a joy and satisfaction of sexual gratification between an adult AV and a child AV. Such actions are illegal IRL and very offensive to many people beside myself.
   
2. What you do in the confines of your property/home/space in second life is PURELY your business. And NO ONE has the right to come snoop and spy on what you are doing.
   
3. I feel the person who began this post is of questionable character to have had the gaul to tresspass on someone elses property, stop and look at what was taking place then come here and post about what they seen. I feel it was the original poster's intention that this post turn into a polarized War and Peace length forum post and their only intention was to cause flaming of the SL forum.
   

If the original poster was sufficiently offfended he could have just as easily reported such occurance to the United States Department of Justice and let them investigate it further.

Seeing some of the posts on here is amazing.

*shakes her head*


enough with this nonsense.

Yes you did. And that you now start repeating yourself tells me you don't have anything else VALUABLE to add then just to stir up the whole "thread about nothing" again.

There is a word for that... Begins with a T ends with an L.

It is child porn. The avatar looks like a child, acts like a child, dresses like a child, speaks like a child and the adult avatar is attracted to having sex with that child avatar and possibly getting off to it in real life.

People are acting like it's just the usual thing to do in second life and that it means nothing when what kind of people in real life would strictly abide by a sex with child avatar diet in second life?

If in real life you found the idea of sex with children disgusting, would you turn around and have sex with an avatar that was a child in a game?

The logical answer would be, no you would not. It takes a person in real life who lusts after kids to act on those fantasies and they probably also own child porn too.

When this game gets more popular and shown on MTV more often, you bet your ass people are going to come in just to see what the bruhaha is about and some of those people might just be on there to catch those who have sex with childen in the act, get their ip address, pay them a little visit just to see if they posess child porn.

All I'm saying is that Second Life is not exempt from this. While in the near future the owner of Linden Labs might not be held accountable much like music distribution program creators, the individuals will so it will be your ass and not the owner of SL. So all of those concerns about losing paid members who own land to practice child pornography will be behind bars instead so either way Second Life loses a member.

I think Second Life needs to nip this issue in the bud now because even though SL claims they want freedom for all to express themselves how they want, that is not entirely true if they deem one thing...ONE THING that is a character trait as ban worthy and let every other which is actually even worse in real life slide.

Yeah, Im the one that needs help right. Ok, I'll get on that. Whats wrong with me again?

Sorry about what happend to you. My son was molested. The case was thrown out because the Grand Jury heard my 6 yo son say "he put his pee-pee 'on' my butt" not "he inserted his penis into my anus" So that made it ok for the Grand Jury, and the case was quashed.

So you all go ahead, those that condone all this, and blurr the lines as much as you want. And tell me I need help.

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WHAT IF IT NEVER HAPPENED AND THE OP JUST MADE IT UP?






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You're really Jeff Gordon in a dress?

The first bit there isnt what age play is about like i told other people look on page 32 about what age play is. There is a real life age play community and thats what its based on. People trying to look as much like a child as possible. In SL they can take it to the point where they can be a child but it is still RP its not getting off on a child av (for some people it may be and they should seek help) its about playing out a fantasy of a daddy/little girl situation it has nothing to do with being turned on by children. I have friends who practice this in real life age play that is and its just another sexual fantasy like bdsm or other things. Please check the link before you assume its about being turned on by adult av / child av sex because its not.

And the rest i agree with you. The OP should not have been snooping but instead of reporting it he or she could of just walked away. Did they do that ? No, they stayed there and watched it. That says something about the OP doesnt it?

You don't need help. I find it odd that someone claimed to be molested as a child (earlier in the thread, not you) but is all for others displaying that behavior and finds no offense. Makes me think that person is just making stuff up to make her or himself look as though they are good and it's no big deal.

ROFLMAO

THAT is not beyond possible. It had occured to me.

I wonder how many of you who are bemoning the "Horrible Sin" of ageplay are doing so because you've secretly imagined yourself putting on a frilly dress, pair of mary janes, and liked being put over "Daddy's" knee?

The only "horrible sin" here is that YOU are judging and naysaying people for being open and honest with their sexuality, in a mature, safe and consentual setting, with mature and consentual adults. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

You're all awefully passionate about how sinful this is. Does being passionate about "sin" make you hot?

If the OP worked at that place, how could she not snoop?

Damien its not Child porn it is age play. They are role playing out a fantasy and the person in the child av is playing a fantasy of being daddy's little girl or whatever. People do this in real life. There is a community for it. Associate yourself with what age play actually is. They can look like a child, act like a child and talk like a child all they want its still a fantasy RP. My 30 year old cousin looks like, sounds like, acts like and talk like a child but she is 30. One wouldnt know that speaking with her she looks like she's mabye 12.

So if a guy thought she was hot he's a pedophile? Bit of flawed logic from folks that dont know what age play actually is. There are people that dont know what the furry thing is about either and assume its beastiality i've seen that before on posts before to.

Have you been to therapy to deal with your son's molestation? Has your son been to therapy?

The reason I believe you need help is that your rage is quite evident --and incredibly misplaced.

Ageplay is more about an adult losing inhibition in the role of a child and having an understanding partner help them experience it. It's about the gratification of the one "playing the kid". Not the one doing the one "playing the kid"

Not worthy of a thought out reply.

there's the problem.

Damien here is the original post which you probably havent read yet.

" Child girl AV, sex with Adult male AV? is this right???
I came across a child girl AV on sex poses nude, with a male Adult AV doing the same thing. Is this right? (they was on their own land i guess, as I was exploring around) can this allowed? I have also heard storys of this, but did not belive it till i seen it for my self. (By the way, the child girl AV did have Xcite on, I seen chat from it and when I Ctrl-Alt-T i could see)"

There is no incling of the girl working at said place she even states that she guesses they were on their own property. Look how far she snooped she even look in trasparent view to see the xcite stuff.

You would be quite incorrect, but then I find it odd that you are so preoccupied with ageplay.

I've been in SL for more than 2 years --and I've never even cybered. Nor have I even seen any "sexualized" children avatars (though I have seen many children avatars)

Nahhhhhh. I do that in RL --I find SL sex to be boring.

Plus I look real cute in frilly panties and pigtails.

I've been in sl a year and have never witnessed anyone actually engaged in age play sex. I'm not saying it doesn't exist I just haven't witnessed it.
However after reading some of these posts I had to ask myself what would be my reaction if I stumbled upon it. I can only imagine if someone had been molested as a child and then to see something like that in sl it would be extremely disturbing to them. However, we do need to remind ourselves that in sl this would be between two consenting adults engaged in age play sex.

If a person has fantasies of pedophelia and then engages in age play sex because the occassion to have sex with a child has not been afforded them in rl then I would say yes this person is disturbed and needs help. Possibly even dangerous if given the opportunity to act out this behavior in rl.
To act it out in rl is against the law. We all know that.
But how do you determine what is going on in someone's mind in an online game? And would it be LL's responsibility to determine such a thing? Of course not.
In the meantime as long as the adult grid stays the adult grid it is no longer a legal issue but a moral one in the individual. LL can't monitor morals. And even if they could... by whose standards would they attempt to govern?
By the way... to even think that all child avatars are engaged in age play sex is rediculous. There could be any number of reasons why someone wants a child avatar... including healthy ones.

My two cents.

I corrected myself to narrow in on the actual part of age play that offends me. I realized later that I was clumping ALL age play into 1 pile and that wasn't a correct thing to do. However I did state later as you see that it was about child and adult AV's engaging in sex that offended me not someone 18 & 80.