Advances in Equal Opportunity: Where We Are Now

You have indeed seen an "unknown" developer step in and speak for themselves.

That was ME. I wanted equal opportunity. I got it. I'm happy.

coco

Why are you crying, Beau? Are you unhappy that some of the unknowns now have a chance? More competition, maybe?

coco

If SL is supposed to be "not a game" but a "nation" (or whatever the fuck Phillip called it), the idea of equal opportunity may be important.

I'm not taking a position on that. I'm just pointing out that LL promotes the SL as an alternative world rather than a game and
nobody should get their noses out of joint if someone thinks
SL should be a certain way.

Funny thing, Cocoanut, all of us were unknowns, that had to work our asses off to get noticed. People do resent when someone who has done nothing comes along and wails about how unfair everything is because they aren't enjoying the same benefits that those who have worked hard for something are. You like to evoke the whole same tired "small town provincial" thing that Prokofy does, but there is a problem. Many of the most sccuessful people in SL have not been here since beta. Some have, some have not. The opportunities you speak of have been there all along. Your complaining did not magically make them appear - they have been there throughout the entire history of SL.

THAT is ABSOLUTELY not true.

There is NO attack on a person or a group. These are FACTS. It is a FACT that they went directly to GOM. I have zero against GOM! I have total sympathy for GOM!

I could not POSSIBLY have been insulting to Bedazzled when I first made the thread about that, cause I didn't even know who had won the contract!

If it is Aimee who was getting all the press, that was not Aimee's fault.

That was the fault of a SYSTEM which failed to use all that it had at its disposal. They have CORRECTED that.

You know, it could have been you, or me, or anybody, Cristiano. Who they chose with their faulty choosing mechanism was never at issue.

You can view all this as my excuse to attack people till the cows come home, Cristiano, but that just doesn't make it true. I criticized the system. The system is better now.

So we didn't get a freaking bill of rights. So what? We don't even have the right to continue playing SL, or to continue owning our land on it, should the Lindens deem that we shouldn't or that they want to pull the plug on the game. Meanwhile, the idea is to keep making improvements. The steps they have taken recently have done just that.

coco

Cristiano! Your delivery sucks, too!

coco

I think "equal opportunity" is wonderful, I don't have a problem with that. What I have a continued problem is with is Cocoanut's demeaning of Bedazzle. That group worked their asses off on multiple projects, at their own expense, in SL that many people enjoyed. Their work was also a benefit to Linden Lab, as they continually pushed the envelope of what could be done in SL (for example, the reflections in Chinatown).

Cocoanut's continued assertions that the project was just "handed" to them demeans the efforts that Bedazzle put in. Linden Lab did not give them the contract, the client did, based upon their established work. As this was Linden Lab's first big corporate client, they needed to submit a professional team of people who could do the job for the client and would not let them down - as this was an incredibly important project. Bedazzle earned that opportunity, and delivered on it beautifully. Yet Cocoanut continues to use them as a shining example of inequality, though she has now glommed onto GOM as well. Both Bedazzle and the people behind GOM earned the opportunities they were presented with, and to state otherwise is insulting.

The more you bitch, the more we lose. Posting comments on Hamlet's blog ring a bell?

Ooh, great comeback, Cocoanut. You got me there.

What makes you think I have done nothing?

More accurately, what makes you think I had PLANNED to do nothing?

I had planned to do something, and I wanted a chance to have it showcased, too. Others want the same thing! Very understandable, actually.

We have more of that chance now. Those opportunities were not there all along. They just WERE NOT.

Our complaining DID help bring them about. Go back to my list of three things and tell me they were there all along.

coco

That's why your initial thread on this subject was called "Feted Inner Core Issue: Your Opinion?"

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If so, then what we are losing was a bad thing to begin with.

What do you suppose has been lost in the three advances I listed at the beginning of this thread? I'm interested, tell me.

coco

Cause "feted inner core" was the accepted lexicon for the topic I was addressing.

coco

Hmm. I wonder what could convey that impression.

You were addressing a fictional conspiracy.

I hear ya.

Alas Poor Yorick...

etc. etc

Let me be clear (again, and not in this thread only), that I am not demeaning Bedazzle.

Bedazzle just happens to be the people the Lindens chose in their system of just happening to choose someone they know about, rather than opening up the opportunity.

I did not KNOW it was Bedazzle they had chosen when I first criticized their method for choosing someone. None of us knew at that point who they had chosen.

Just as GOM happened to be the people the Lindens chose, rather than approaching all the money exchange services.

If I were the Lindens, I would have chosen GOM, too!

But I wouldn't have CHOSEN them at all; I would have announced the opportunity, then solicited bids. I would be smarter, in fact, to do that, in terms of getting the best product for the money.

And even THEN, it is natural that they would have chosen GOM . . . or Bedazzle.

I KNOW the Lindens were in a hurry. They have now FIXED THIS WHOLE THING. That is one of the three advances I put in the beginning of this post, and anyone not rendered insensible by emotion would acknowledge this advance, and how reasonable it is.

BUT.

You've just gotta have this as some kind of personal attack.

It has NOTHING TO DO with the quality of GOM, or the quality of Bedazzle.

Nothing.

It has to do with - always did have to do with - opening up these opportunities to everyone.

That is so basic, really. But - if you insist on this, "Coco has demeaned Bedazzle," then, well, I can't stop you.

coco

You tell me, Enabran. I'm listening.

coco

Posting comments on Hamlet's blog was a bad thing? You certainly didnt think so, then.


So if it's all well and good now, why the inflammatory post? LL, the forums and the community do no hand out hero cookies, but to cook up your own and eat them in front of everyone is simply self-agrandizing.

Yes, all three things have existed.

Catherine Linden has been in her position for quite awhile, and had posted things in announcements all the time, and repeatedly requested suggestions from people. Furthermore, Linden Lab has always been accessible in this regard. While a specific PR forum box was not there, that is a formality, as any one of us could reach out to them at any time and say "hey, I want to be considered for this" or "hey, Cocoanut makes an awesome ironing board you should consider her".

The Linden contests have been there all along - the recent contests were not the first ones, they have had them at various times since beta.

The formal developer program was already in development. SL has a huge pool of extremely talented residents across a wide variety of disciplines. As such, it makes sense they would ultimately have a more formal developer program where people could get in touch with those with the talents they are seeking and to facilitate opportunity.

So yes, all three have existed. The progress on them is a good thing - what is not is you acting like until you came along and set the poor Lindens straight, they were just this corrupt group giving every opportunity to their undeserving little fan club. That is what irritates me - you were not even here for it, and yet can speak to how things were, no matter how innacurate.

Check your facts. The bank chose. Linden Lab did not.

Are you suggesting that I got that thread on Hamlet's blog locked?

The original post here was only inflammatory to those who want to be inflamed and indignant about it.

It is actually a post listing three advances in equal opportunity, lauding them, and asking if there are any remaining areas in which similar improvement could be made.

I'm not one to squawk about something for ages, and then not applaud the changes when we get them, or celebrate about them.

coco

Chose out of how many? And how many did the Lindens know about in the first place?

And as for GOM, the Lindens directly chose them.

There is FORM that needs to be followed. And good form allows for equal opportunity. It's a win/win situation for all.

coco

Speaking for other's motivation again?