Pimps!

To many people, SL is one big sex toy. Which is absolutely fine, if that's their thing...

What many of them seem not to understand, is that not everyone else in SL wants to watch them masturbate.

Sounds to me as if Isabel's neighbors are Goreans, though presumably the sim you are in is not a Gorean-controlled one. For the most part, if you tell them you don't wish to play that game, they will leave you alone.

Goreans base their interactions on a series of fiction books that came out over 30 years ago, which feature a culture in which women are nothing more than chattel, slaves to any man that wants them. There are even several sims where the entire sim portrays 'Gorean culture', and anyone who does not wish to be treated by 'their rules' must wear an 'observer tag'. Personally, it's not something I would participate in. But it has a large following here.

The larger D/s (Domination and Submission) community in general distains the Goreans, because most D/s people believe the relationship between a dominant and a submissive should be one of love and trust, while Goreans believe in beating and whipping and branding their slaves. The majority of people in SL who bear titles like "Master", "Mistress", "Pet", "Owned by..." are into a much more consensual form of power exchange roleplay.

When I first arrived in SL, I encountered a friend who I knew from another venue. I was a bit surprised to see she was wearing a title that said "Owned by..." followed by the name of someone else that I knew! I asked, politely, and found that this girl was, voluntarily, a "Pet" to the other person. They choose to engage in D/s roleplay. I learned a lot about the D/s community after that, and while I am not at all inclined to wear someone else's collar myself, I believe I understand this group fairly well. I even 'own' a few Pets, myself, though I rarely have time to engage in more intimate roleplay with anyone in SL.

D/s should not be confused with Sado/Masochism. SM people like to harm others or be harmed. The D/s group and the SM group both employ bondage (leashes, collars, cuffs, and the like) but in very different ways. The SM crowd exists here as well, though.

Pimps? I have seen 'Pimp clothes' in SL, but have yet to actually meet anyone I would call a pimp. I've encountered, though never hired, plenty of 'escorts' - prostitutes of both genders. But they usually work for established brothels or clubs. I don't consider the owners of a club or brothel to be pimps, because without exception the few that I have met so far don't force anyone to do anything, and treat their escorts like valued employees.

I think a lot of people experiment with any of the above roles in SL because they can do so safely and anonymously. You can't get pregnant. You can't get a disease. You can't actually be harmed. (Though in the more abusive forms, emotional harm mgiht well be a consideration). And if you don't like what's happening, you can always log off!

I have no objection to people doing consensual stuff to each other. The drag is when some guy gives himself an Sl first name "Master". I mean har har.

What is with all the pimps in SL? LOL! And all the men being called "master"

They came to your house with their sexual fantasies? Cute. (No, not really.)

Their lifestyle play on SL is being pointed out as I type this is a BDSM play (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM). Both of them are likely getting aroused with her public humiliation and therefore are putting you in the position of being involved in their sex life.

I suggest you ask them to tone it down or leave. IMO a good BDSM player will respect the host's wishes, even if those wishes are for them to switch off the kink.

oh bullshit. She probably wasn't humiliated at all. This is the way they live their life. Its not all sexual fantasy and they probably were not aroused at all. The Master / Mistress title comes quite naturally to those in the lifestyle for a while and it more than likely had nothing to do with sex.

But hey -- you certainly went there fast enough.

Hostility and disagreement aside, I stand by my original statement: IMO a good BDSM player will respect the host's wishes, even if those wishes are for them to switch off the kink.

Hostility and disagreement aside, I stand by my original statement: IMO a good BDSM player will respect the host's wishes, even if those wishes are for them to switch off the kink.

It's not kink. It's a lifestyle, period. That's exactly like asking a married couple to "switch off the marriage" for you.

What is with all the pimps in SL? LOL! And all the men being called "master"

Wow, Bizzy ... I don't even know where to begin. Your lack of understanding of D/s, based on your post, is so staggering that I can't even guess how to start. Unfortunately, given you apparently "learned" about it in SL Gor, which is overrun with horrid Dom/mes and clueless roleplayers, it's not too surprising.

I can't really respond to you beyond that because we're not even talking about the same thing. You don't really even know what good D/s IS, apparently, so it's like speaking different languages to one another.

If you're interested in learning (talk -- not being "recruited" ), send an in-game message? Otherwise, best of luck to you.

When you get involved in the scene, try not to be judgmental about others' kinks. People who are "just into a little spanking" or "light kink" sometimes feel uncomfortable around others who are into enemas, golden showers, severe humiliation, baby or age play, latex mummification, etc. There is even a term to describe the syndrome: "Your kink is not OK," or YKINOK Do feel comfortable telling people about what you are into, but be wary of describing your limits in negative terms: for example, "I'm into corporal punishment, not slave-training or humiliation or cross-dressing or anything really sick. I have no problem with my own self-esteem; I don't need anyone putting me down."

Whenever people make such comparisons, they are playing the old game of trying to make themselves look better by making someone else look worse. But to experienced scene players, what you are actually saying is "I haven't yet come to terms with my own kinkiness. The only way I can reconcile my BDSM urges with my day-to-day life is by comparing myself to other players and saying "Gee, I may be a little twisted, but at least I'm not like them!" Negative and judgmental players find few willing ears, and even fewer play partners in the BDSM world.

Keep an open mind and a willing spirit, be kind to others you meet and patient with other newbies, and communicate, communicate, communicate.

Nice attempt to right hand, left hand it.. But its not the case. Most are offended by the stupidity of the D/s community.

I doubt anyone is offended by the stupidity of SL marriage, unless they start wearing leashes and making women look like nothing more then dogs.

Don't sit here and tell me its a lifestyle we should all have to tolerate. If you enter any of my land with that BS, I wouldn't even give you the politness of a warning before sending you skyhigh and trampoling high up on top of my land.

Like he said, a good SBDMRTSHER (or however many fetishes their into that add acronyms) would realize their lifestyle is not for the public eye.

Im sure youd vote for public spurring and spitting on of women in real life, Hitler, but here the toggling is the land owner's choice and can be enforced.

Im sure youd vote for public spurring and spitting on of women in real life, Hitler, but here the toggling is the land owner's choice and can be enforced.

Im sorry I missed where the lindens commissioned public D/s?

Nice attempt to right hand, left hand it.. But its not the case. Most are offended by the stupidity of the D/s community. I doubt anyone is offended by the stupidity of SL marriage, unless they start wearing leashes and making women look like nothing more then dogs.

Don't sit here and tell me its a lifestyle we should all have to tolerate. If you enter any of my land with that BS, I wouldn't even give you the politness of a warning before sending you skyhigh and trampoling high up on top of my land.

Like he said, a good SBDMRTSHER (or however many fetishes their into that add acronyms) would realize their lifestyle is not for the public eye.

Im sure youd vote for public spurring and spitting on of women in real life, Hitler, but here the toggling is the land owner's choice and can be enforced.

Wow! In the time it took to put together my post, you've already Godwined the thread. I guess I'm done here....

Damn, I was hoping to hear more about this latex mummification thing, cuz that is so hawt. But you rubber fetishists stay away, because that is just sick.

From my understanding the traditional D/s relationship is one of trust. The sub trusting the Dom not to abuse the power that is freely given over them.