SECONDTHOUGHTS: removing telehubs thoroughly sickens community leader

Take note, new residents: The individual under discussion here is not a "banned griever." He was kicked off the forums. He is not a griefer.

The individual who habitually describes him this way is the same individual who describes me as a "forum antagonist."

coco

Who are you referring to? Certainly not me, I hope for your sake.

She used the neg-rate to bring grief to people for disagreements in the forum. Now the griefing tool is gone.

Yes, I'm referring to you. Did I have something wrong?

coco

Take note new residents, griefing is in the eye of the beholder.

There's more like me coming. Watch out.

I am still waiting for the revolution of "more people like us".

Take me to your leader.

So they really took away the telehubs after all. Well that SUCKS too!

Wtf is next?

Who the heck are these community leaders anyways? People I should look up to?

Well in order to have leaders you must first have some sort of a government structure in place. LL has said no to any and all gov't so any leaders in the community are there of their own free will. I used to speak for ppl then I said screw it let em speak for themselves. We are all much happier for it

Speak up for yourself only LL is in charge here.

OK then I declare myself as the Community Leader in charge of telehubs and hereby order that all the trash be taken down ASAP!

LOL Nope sorry I a member of the community do not recognize a formal gov't therefor you only exist as leader in your own mind

If on the other hand you are well log in and take em down now nope didn't think so.

roflmao

Why does it suck? I thought you hated commercial development anyway, and telehubs represent urban blight at its finest.

Well Cristiano I used to whats the point of fighting what LL obviously wants but more so is pushing for with every other new "development"

But look; low and behold they do something compleatly counter productive to thier "new" plan.

Agian the right hand apparently doesn't know what the left hand is doing.

It's a real crappy way to run a business but an excellent way to ruin a business.

When they make up their minds what thier plan is I sure hope they tell the rest of us. LOL


p.s: its probably not a good idea to piss off a 50k US$ investor by making all that telehub land value plummet suddenly. Yeah I would be real pissed.

I think the biggest driving factor behind this change is LL's new found drive to make SL easier to use. There is a compelling reason: people aren't sticking around. If they aren't staying, they aren't converting to premium, thus no income for LL. Flying toward some big red beacon when you are trying to simply go someplace is just not easy for new users, especially when half the crap hasn't rezzed yet around them. I thought flying and the beacons were stupid in beta, the experience has worsened over the past 2 years, and thankfully something positive is being done about it. Never mind the chicken little prophecies of doom and Anshe wailing that she has been robbed.

PS - ask yourself how much that "investor" has made off of that telehub land in profits. Then feel sorry for her.

Now now the sky isn't falling yet. There is simply not enought crap up in the sky yet to do any real damage yet LOL. As for Anshe last time I checked she wasn't the biggest land baron . But yeah I have to say I do feel a bit sorry for anyone who owns that now worth as much as its neighbors land. I always liked the telehubs. Sometimes even the free advertizing on them worked. Guess noobs could simply fly straight up and over, well way up first. I wonder how p2p will really work what often sounds good on paper often seems to lack a lot IW.

As for the subscription numbers being down. Well they did announce it wasn't a game. Those who used to play it as a game have since found new games to play. Hell I used to log in for 12 hours a day now I log in long enough to check the lag and often log right back out. I have scaled back to the min. Nope I don't think I'm interested in logging into a world to work. Nor do I beleive that sounds very appealing to the masses. You may disagree after all its just my opinion. SL is not the "fun" place it once was, they lost that "special somthing" a year ago or so.

Mar

You maam.. do not live in the same world with the rest of us.

Please please stop hurting new people with your lies as they come to this world.

I don't lie. I also don't demonize people the way some of the rest of you do.

Please stop calling me a liar. I don't believe I've called you anything of that order.

And that basically proves my point.

I think it would be good if you and others stopped living in the DRAHMA world you have created and defined and wallow in on these forums, and start living in the real world - and this includes the real SL world - where people are people.

coco

Interesting...See the power of words.

Martin thank you for sharing this.

What a waste of time reading this thread has been. The only things I gained from it were

1) A. Lumiere's comment on making p2p a scriptable feature is in line with some of what I've been thinking
2) H. Ramos has my respect

Coco, he gave me grief. Please don't rewrite history. As a professional writer, you can understand the damage this can cause.

I would describe him as a banned griever, an I a forum antagonist?

When you rewrite history, some people can consider it lying.

Also, I bought the Fortune magazine you mentioned in another thread. Prokofy was not in that issue at all. You said he was. I don't understand why you would say he was when he wasn't. I read the article from the beginning to the end and he was not in it anywhere.

Here is an interesting dilemma...

1. TOS/CS forbids us from making personal attacks against other residents.
2. The third RL person in Fortune Magazine is not linked to any resident.
3. TOS/CS forbids us from linking other Residents to Real Life information.

SO the question is ... as long as we don't link that third person in Fortune Magazine to a Second Life resident, is she fair game for personal attacks? (just like Bush, Clinton, or any other non-SecondLife public figure?)

Of couse if that person decides to link themselves to that article in their Fisrt Life profile, personal attacks would be forbidden but non-attack discussion about those details would be permitted (their gender, for example.)

Is my math right on this one?

When do I get to see this article? Is it online? Has someone scanned it?
Could anyone PM me an URL or send the scan to [email]eggstasy@gmail.com[/email]?

It sounds reasonable. But just the fact that we can't even use correct pronouns when dealing with this individual makes the whole thing even more ludicrous.

Of course reasonable is subjective.