SECONDTHOUGHTS: removing telehubs thoroughly sickens community leader

I was hoping to debate and explore a unique viewpoint that is not mired in groupthink.

And you posted this in GENERAL?
The last serious discussion I've seen in general is in the archive from Beta.

WTF?

I or Blaze or anyone else can't quote a banned person?

Ok I will bite on this one? Why is Prokofy's viewpoint not mired in group think, but other people's are? Prokofy is in the land business, which instantly makes the view biased in the best interest of his business. His viewpoint is no more or less valid, though again, biased in favor of land owners. Group think is bullshit perpetuated by people like yourself who try to marginalize people for disagreeing with you. My thoughts on telehubs, why they should or should not go away, etc... has nothing to do with group think. Does yours? Then again, we have no idea what you really think because you will change it from post to post in order to push the next button.

Nope, that is in essence posting for them.

I'll have to add that to my rule book. Thanks for the clarification - so I wonder if Blaze's message has been reported??

It is an interesting question and I think the Lindens are going to have to make a decision. On one end of the spectrum, we would not be permitted to quote a sentence from a banned person. On the other end, a willing ally could simply copy and paste everything the banned person wished to be said, thereby completely circumventing the ban.

Perhaps a question for the Hotline?

Holy ****.

I can't even believe we're having this conversation.

Aimee,

Has the inability to advertise your business as *PREEN* in classifieds, and instead being forced to use PREEN, had any impact on sales?

Bit of a moot point for me. I don't advertise in the classifieds.

Typically the idea of a ban is to remove someone who's influence is reguarded as largely disruptive to a forum community (AKA, trolling, spamming) by quoting them, the poster is trolling (using, in this case, a famed troll's reputation to spark debate and disruption)

Often trolls will even try to guise their trolling in sarcasm and attempts to spark serious debates...
Though I'm again compelled to state that this is General on the SL forum, and that it's as prone to serious debate as the Sport of the UK and the Weekly World News of the US is prone to reporting accurate news. (though these days, too many news sources are slowly degrading into 'popularity' contests by doing the most shocking news possible to the point of nausium, Makes me happy the BBC is not prone to such dilusions... I point to my above post on viral advertising as to why)

I put in an ad today - I didn't realize they didn't autorenew and you had to recreate them every 2 weeks, so I haven't had an ad for awhile. It didn't impact my sales at all anyway * shrug *.

Blaze, I'm not sure if this thread is in response to your perception of SLOG as being some kind of "group think" tank or not. If it is, you're barking up the wrong tree. I wrote what I did about money chairs because I see them as a failure on LL's part to encourage people who unlike, you, or Aimee, or me, or Cristiano, or Prokofy, (and countless others) have no desire to be anything beyond part of Second Life, to stay.

Aww Merwan, I hate when you are all confused by sudden movement. * pats Merwan on the head * If you are worried, you could be kind enough to let Jeska know that Blaze has been a bad little boy.

I think that is the real issue right now. Telehub land going away is a minor, chicken little event that will pass like so many others before it with much hand wringing and cries of the end of SL, etc. The big concern, and what people should be trying like hell to help with and be concerned about is the horrible retention rate. If SL does not continue on a healthy growth path, with people actually sticking around, there will be no SL for any of us. Worse, we will all just be stuck talking to each other. Is that what you really want??

I think that's a bit harsh .. I am somewhat serious here.

God no, you all drive me insane.

Classifieds sort of went the way of telehubs (see my prior post to understand what I mean) and events.

Really? That's super. Very thought provoking stuff.

Go ahead, slog away - but do you really need to to bring the fansite discussion into the general forums?

Your general tone on the forums makes it rather hard to tell what your motives and desires are, thus making me believe what I stated.

I didn't! Someone I don't even know did! Do you expect an apology?

Yumi is not from SLOG and posted that thread on his own.

Jesus murphy... excuse me Blaze, for expressing myself.

I think that's where people get into trouble. They worry about other people's motives and desires. Just state your (own) opinion and don't worry about what other people think.

You'll probably piss off some people at first, possibly even people who are your friends, but at least you'll have the self respect of knowing that you say what you're thinking.